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On 9/18/2024 7:31 PM, Bob F wrote:

These immigrants are legal, and they were invited

They are ILLEGAL, they were brought in here to destroy rural America.


TRAITOR TO YOUR OWN NATION!

https://washingtonstand.com/news/15-to-27-million-illegals-likely-to-vote-in-2024-experts


Do you plan to vote this November? You’re not alone. Experts say
somewhere between 1.5 million and 2.7 million illegal immigrants are
likely to cast a ballot in the 2024 elections, impacting races from dog
catcher to president of the United States.

The historic flood of illegal immigrants during the Biden-Harris
administration has also padded voter rolls, thanks to controversial
federal legislation from the Clinton administration. If illegal
immigrants and other noncitizens vote in the same proportion as in
previous U.S. elections, the number will range anywhere from
one-and-a-half to nearly three million votes.

“A 2014 academic journal found that 6.4% of noncitizens voted in 2008,” Kerri Toloczko, executive director of Election Integrity Network and
senior advisor to the Only Citizens Vote Coalition, told The Washington
Stand. “There are about 24 million noncitizens in the U.S. right now. If
they voted only at the same rate of 6.4% this year as they did in 2008,
they would account for 1.5 million votes.”

That ponderous number of unlawful votes may just be the tip of the
iceberg. “Based on the increased noncitizen activity at state DMVs, and
the work of left-wing voter registration activists, this 6.4% could be
much higher than it was in 2008. We could be looking at over two million unlawful noncitizen votes,” she told TWS.

Her estimate largely dovetails with a previous study showing 2.7 million noncitizens are likely to vote in the 2024 election.

The author of that study — James D. Agresti, the president and cofounder
of the think tank and fact-check website Just Facts — confirmed to TWS
that “the most comprehensive, transparent, and rigorous study on this
matter found that about two to five million noncitizens are illegally registered to vote, and aggressive attempts to debunk the study have
completely failed.”

Opponents of election integrity laws minimize the problem by claiming it
is already illegal for foreigners to vote in U.S. elections. But, unlike
other purported threats, the problem truly holds the power to undermine
our democracy, election experts say. “The Left likes to use phrases
like, ‘It’s not that widespread,’” Toloczko observed. “But how many does
a moral relativist uninterested in upholding the law think is too many?”
And “if every unlawful vote cancels out the vote of a lawful citizen
voter, how many of those are acceptable?”

Would two million unlawful votes be “enough to possibly make a
difference in House and Senate races, and even the presidency?” she
asked. “You bet.”

Agresti noted that “the claim that noncitizens rarely vote is based on studies with absurd methodologies. For example, they measure the
prevalence of this crime by merely counting convictions for it.”

This is “ridiculous,” Agresti told TWS. He compared the statistic to measuring the number of Americans who illegally use narcotics “based on guilty pleas and verdicts. The same applies to any other law that isn’t strictly enforced, like driving above the speed limit.”

The House of Representatives released a 22-page report in June
documenting illegal immigrants voting in the United States. Under
current law, 17 cities in California, Maryland, and Vermont as well as
the District of Columbia allow noncitizens to vote. While the
noncitizens are supposed to vote only in local elections, “mistakes”
have been reported.

Toloczko highlighted documented cases of foreigners illegally voting in
U.S. elections. “The federal government recently indicted a group of noncitizens from 15 different countries on federal voting charges. Texas recently purged 6,500 noncitizens from its voter rolls — 30% of whom had voting records,” Toloczko told TWS, expressing similar thoughts in The Stream.

Illegal immigration impacts U.S. elections in a second way: Counting noncitizens in the U.S. Census redistributes eight congressional seats
and, with them, their Electoral College votes which elect the president,
a team of immigration scholars found. America’s teeming illegal
immigrant population gives additional congressional seats to California
(3), Texas (2), New York, New Jersey, and Florida (one each); and it
takes seats away from Alabama, Idaho, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota,
Ohio, Rhode Island, and West Virginia (one seat each). Illegal
immigrants alone transfer one seat each from Ohio, Alabama, and
Minnesota to California, Texas, and New York, the study from the Center
for Immigration Studies found.

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