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K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:30:58 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

You got any proof those voter are non-citizens?

AGAIN:


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

[...]

So, no. You do not have any proof.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

. Analysis .

To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).

In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.

The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:

[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.

Id. § 702.12.

Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.

Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.

The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).

Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.

Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:

The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:

1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .

2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.

3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...

4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.

5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.

If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.

We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.

Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)


ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND
PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375


Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:


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0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
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In article <vd19rf$3nr9o$1@dont-email.me>, robberbaron@invalid.ut
says...

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:23:55 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:30:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

"Illegals" can't and don't vote

BULLSHIT LIE!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

Arizona was one of many states alleged to have been rife with voter

[...]

Note the word "alleged."

Note the language in our own voting rights act which allows for "belief" >> to be an excuse for illegal voting.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104?208, div. C, title II, º216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110
Stat. 3009?572 ; amended Pub. L. 106?395, title II, º201(d)(1), Oct. 30, >> 2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

Our own legislators have SCREWED us!

How?

Does your mental acumen stretch no farther than corrupting a minor to
garage burglary?

That you cannot comprehend written English only means you
cannot comprehend it. Nothing more.

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Clear as day, all an illegal has to do is state their belief in being a citizen of the United States.

Does that bother you, garage burglar boi?

What is a "garage burglar boi?"

Sean Michael Bilyeu comes to mind...

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

Is the spelling of Trump done like this ----> tRump.

Is that childish or what?

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Skeeter wrote:

In article <vd19rf$3nr9o$1@dont-email.me>, robberbaron@invalid.ut
says...

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:23:55 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:30:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

"Illegals" can't and don't vote

BULLSHIT LIE!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

Arizona was one of many states alleged to have been rife with voter >>>>>

[...]

Note the word "alleged."

Note the language in our own voting rights act which allows for "belief" >>>> to be an excuse for illegal voting.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of >>>> such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104?208, div. C, title II, §216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110 >>>> Stat. 3009?572 ; amended Pub. L. 106?395, title II, §201(d)(1), Oct. 30, >>>> 2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

Our own legislators have SCREWED us!

How?

Does your mental acumen stretch no farther than corrupting a minor to
garage burglary?

That you cannot comprehend written English only means you
cannot comprehend it. Nothing more.

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Clear as day, all an illegal has to do is state their belief in being a
citizen of the United States.

Does that bother you, garage burglar boi?

What is a "garage burglar boi?"

Sean Michael Bilyeu comes to mind...

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

Is the spelling of Trump done like this ----> tRump.

Is that childish or what?

Is your garage locked?

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On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

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On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia - THAT is treason.

Liar

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On 9/21/24 07:35, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vclbgm$19ep4$16@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/24 19:18, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:vcl562$19ep4$6@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/24 08:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:

big tax write off

A flat tax would eliminate that

a Flat Tax is a billionaire's dream - and they'd figure out a way
NOT

to

pay it.

Oh brother. This is any different that what they do now? Look up
501c3's and how the rich avoid taxes.

We know how the rich avoid taxes - they use some of their money to
buy the lawmakers and write the laws in their favor.

And we need rich people. They are hubs of economic activity. When
was the last time a poor person created a job?

When do rich people actually work? Without the labor of the poor,
they would have nothing. They exploit, they do not create.

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and
the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
misery. --Winston Churchill

Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the
people have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they
called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent
labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the
people.

- Harry Truman, AMERICAN President.

Liar

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On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia - THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:11:59 -0600, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Is the spelling of Trump done like this ----> tRump.

Is that childish or what?

It is.

--
KWills
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Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:24:05 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:30:58 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

You got any proof those voter are non-citizens?

AGAIN:


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

[...]

So, no. You do not have any proof.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

You already PROVED you have nothing to offer to prove they're non-citizens. And now you're trying to divert from this truth. You
will continue. I have commanded that you do.
And, as you've proved, you have no ability to resist doing as I
command. The one and only way you will not do so is to run away from
the truth.

--
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:22:20 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:23:55 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:30:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

"Illegals" can't and don't vote

BULLSHIT LIE!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

Arizona was one of many states alleged to have been rife with voter

[...]

Note the word "alleged."

Note the language in our own voting rights act which allows for "belief" >>> to be an excuse for illegal voting.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104û208, div. C, title II, º216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110
Stat. 3009û572 ; amended Pub. L. 106û395, title II, º201(d)(1), Oct. 30, >>> 2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

Our own legislators have SCREWED us!

How?

Does your mental acumen stretch no farther than corrupting a minor to
garage burglary?

Deception noted. Now that you've played that game, and lost,
answer the question. Unless it's too cerebral for you.

That you cannot comprehend written English only means you
cannot comprehend it. Nothing more.

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Clear as day, all an illegal has to do is state their belief in being a >citizen of the United States.

Please take a second grade reading class. You prove you need it.

Does that bother you, garage burglar boi?

What is a "garage burglar boi?"

Mitty? Is the question to far above your intellectual level to answer?
Spoiler: It is.

Now offer your deception to divert from your inability to
comprehend the written word.

Sean Michael Bilyeu comes to mind...

Aw... Do you have a little crush?

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

Way to do EXACTLY as I command without question or pause.
It must suck to be unable to resist doing what I tell you to do.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-800x0.jpg

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On 9/25/24 19:59, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

If you are joking, then Smiles. Castro
wasn't a communist either until he took power.

If not, look up Comrade Bernie Sanders. In an
odd twist, CPUSA have now become the Democrats'
Fellow Travelers.

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Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

I think wikipedia is ground zero for political disinformation. Sheeesh!

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Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

Mandatory ObamaCare is a huge example of socialism.

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T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and
I'll show you a blithering idiot.

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K Wills <kw63@kw63.kw> wrote in news:tmtpfj1dfh49f9lbu8ur42hjisov2ml9kl@4ax.com:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 09:46:04 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Actual American citizens can always prove their legitimacy and
residency and vote as they wish - LEGALLY!

That they can doesn't mean they did. The article you linked to
doesn't tell us either way.

And he's wrong - not all actual, natural-born citizens can prove it - lack
of money, time off their jobs, their birth records were destroyed in fires
or floods, Midwife didn't file the paperwork, etc. This is especially true
of older folk - and the witnesses to their birth died of old age.
Reservation indians are citizens, but their birth records are often
missing. There's many reasons why someone might not prove their
citizenship.

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K Wills wrote:

Again your tawdry history puts itself:

Again you PROVE you cannot defeat me in a debate of the merits.

There can be no 'merits' with a person dishonest to their core, as you are:

You massively project your own dirty deeds on to others, just as oyu
corrupted a minor into a garage burglar.

https://casetext.com/case/state-v-wills-26

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called the local police to report that
a car alarm sounded in the resident's neighborhood. The city dispatched
a police officer to the location. Observing nothing unusual, the officer
left the area, only to be stopped a couple of blocks later by a person
who informed the officer he had witnessed someone running from the area
of the car alarm. As the officer started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking on the sidewalk. The officer
asked the person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody running from the
area. The minor answered that he had not. While the officer and another
officer were speaking to the minor, another resident of the neighborhood arrived in her car and informed the officers that she had observed two
people, one of whom was heavy set with a blinking light on his back
pocket, walking in the area of her neighbor's residence. She observed
the heavier-set individual, later identified as Wills, enter her
neighbor's attached garage through an unlocked service door. She
further observed a smaller individual standing by a van parked in the neighbor's driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave even though they found a
large amount of coins, a flashlight, and an electronic pocket organizer
in his pockets. After releasing the minor, the police officers drove to
the residence where the neighbor observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife, and two daughters were in the
residence sleeping at the time. After a search of his vehicles, the
owner discovered change and an electronic pocket organizer were missing
from the vehicles. The owner's daughter reported a diamond ring and some
change were missing from her vehicle. The officers then contacted the
minor's parents, who informed the officers the minor was with Wills.
After the officers questioned the minor again, he admitted his
involvement in the theft and implicated Wills in the burglary. Although
Wills denied involvement in the burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the information to include two
additional charges of burglary in the third degree and using a juvenile
to commit an indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills guilty of the crimes of
burglary in the second degree, burglary in the third degree, and using a juvenile to commit an indictable offense.

Better tell Lin she'll have to learn to cook up Venezuelan arepas

soon.

Why? What does cooking have to do with your LIE that the improper
classification only equates to illegal aliens? I fail to see the
connection.
How will you try, and fail, to divert from your extremely low
intellect causing you to post claims you PROVE you do not know to be
true? You will do so. Since I am commanding it, you will have no
choice.

No lie:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/tren-de-aragua-venezuelan-gang-members-slip-into-us-rcna156290

'Ghost criminals': How Venezuelan gang members are slipping into the

U.S.

Cases linked to Tren de Aragua, including sex trafficking and a
shooting, show how hard it is for border agents to vet migrants from
nations that won't provide criminal background info.

[...]

Again you do as I command

Again your tawdry history puts itself:

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have discussed, the residence is
the one and only "occupied structure" under the facts of this case. Had
Wills' trial counsel made this objection to the instruction, it would
have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting to the instruction because
there was no legal basis for the motion or objection. See State v.
Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234, 238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise an issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district court because Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.
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K Wills wrote:

Btw, is Lin an "illegal" or have you seen to it that she's naturalized?

She was born in the USA. But you know this.

I would have no way to know this, save for your telling, which we all
know is suspect, because...

You massively project your own dirty deeds on to others, just as you
corrupted a minor into a garage burglar.

https://casetext.com/case/state-v-wills-26

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called the local police to report that
a car alarm sounded in the resident's neighborhood. The city dispatched
a police officer to the location. Observing nothing unusual, the officer
left the area, only to be stopped a couple of blocks later by a person
who informed the officer he had witnessed someone running from the area
of the car alarm. As the officer started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking on the sidewalk. The officer
asked the person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody running from the
area. The minor answered that he had not. While the officer and another
officer were speaking to the minor, another resident of the neighborhood arrived in her car and informed the officers that she had observed two
people, one of whom was heavy set with a blinking light on his back
pocket, walking in the area of her neighbor's residence. She observed
the heavier-set individual, later identified as Wills, enter her
neighbor's attached garage through an unlocked service door. She
further observed a smaller individual standing by a van parked in the neighbor's driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave even though they found a
large amount of coins, a flashlight, and an electronic pocket organizer
in his pockets. After releasing the minor, the police officers drove to
the residence where the neighbor observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife, and two daughters were in the
residence sleeping at the time. After a search of his vehicles, the
owner discovered change and an electronic pocket organizer were missing
from the vehicles. The owner's daughter reported a diamond ring and some
change were missing from her vehicle. The officers then contacted the
minor's parents, who informed the officers the minor was with Wills.
After the officers questioned the minor again, he admitted his
involvement in the theft and implicated Wills in the burglary. Although
Wills denied involvement in the burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the information to include two
additional charges of burglary in the third degree and using a juvenile
to commit an indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills guilty of the crimes of
burglary in the second degree, burglary in the third degree, and using a juvenile to commit an indictable offense.

Better tell Lin she'll have to learn to cook up Venezuelan arepas

soon.

Why? What does cooking have to do with your LIE that the improper
classification only equates to illegal aliens? I fail to see the
connection.
How will you try, and fail, to divert from your extremely low
intellect causing you to post claims you PROVE you do not know to be
true? You will do so. Since I am commanding it, you will have no
choice.

No lie:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/tren-de-aragua-venezuelan-gang-members-slip-into-us-rcna156290

'Ghost criminals': How Venezuelan gang members are slipping into the

U.S.

Cases linked to Tren de Aragua, including sex trafficking and a
shooting, show how hard it is for border agents to vet migrants from
nations that won't provide criminal background info.

[...]

Again you do as I command

Again your tawdry history puts itself:

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have discussed, the residence is
the one and only "occupied structure" under the facts of this case. Had
Wills' trial counsel made this objection to the instruction, it would
have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting to the instruction because
there was no legal basis for the motion or objection. See State v.
Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234, 238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise an issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district court because Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.
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K Wills wrote:

undocumented "migrants":

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/illegal-aliens-are-still-voting-our-elections

[Snip copyright violation]

Nothing supports your LIE

You massively project your own dirty deeds on to others, just as you
corrupted a minor into a garage burglar.

https://casetext.com/case/state-v-wills-26

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called the local police to report that
a car alarm sounded in the resident's neighborhood. The city dispatched
a police officer to the location. Observing nothing unusual, the officer
left the area, only to be stopped a couple of blocks later by a person
who informed the officer he had witnessed someone running from the area
of the car alarm. As the officer started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking on the sidewalk. The officer
asked the person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody running from the
area. The minor answered that he had not. While the officer and another
officer were speaking to the minor, another resident of the neighborhood arrived in her car and informed the officers that she had observed two
people, one of whom was heavy set with a blinking light on his back
pocket, walking in the area of her neighbor's residence. She observed
the heavier-set individual, later identified as Wills, enter her
neighbor's attached garage through an unlocked service door. She
further observed a smaller individual standing by a van parked in the neighbor's driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave even though they found a
large amount of coins, a flashlight, and an electronic pocket organizer
in his pockets. After releasing the minor, the police officers drove to
the residence where the neighbor observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife, and two daughters were in the
residence sleeping at the time. After a search of his vehicles, the
owner discovered change and an electronic pocket organizer were missing
from the vehicles. The owner's daughter reported a diamond ring and some
change were missing from her vehicle. The officers then contacted the
minor's parents, who informed the officers the minor was with Wills.
After the officers questioned the minor again, he admitted his
involvement in the theft and implicated Wills in the burglary. Although
Wills denied involvement in the burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the information to include two
additional charges of burglary in the third degree and using a juvenile
to commit an indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills guilty of the crimes of
burglary in the second degree, burglary in the third degree, and using a juvenile to commit an indictable offense.

Better tell Lin she'll have to learn to cook up Venezuelan arepas

soon.

Why? What does cooking have to do with your LIE that the improper
classification only equates to illegal aliens? I fail to see the
connection.
How will you try, and fail, to divert from your extremely low
intellect causing you to post claims you PROVE you do not know to be
true? You will do so. Since I am commanding it, you will have no
choice.

No lie:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/tren-de-aragua-venezuelan-gang-members-slip-into-us-rcna156290

'Ghost criminals': How Venezuelan gang members are slipping into the

U.S.

Cases linked to Tren de Aragua, including sex trafficking and a
shooting, show how hard it is for border agents to vet migrants from
nations that won't provide criminal background info.

[...]

Again you do as I command

Again your tawdry history puts itself:

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have discussed, the residence is
the one and only "occupied structure" under the facts of this case. Had
Wills' trial counsel made this objection to the instruction, it would
have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting to the instruction because
there was no legal basis for the motion or objection. See State v.
Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234, 238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise an issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district court because Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.

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K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 09:40:34 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

I'm glad you are able to be honest enough to agree.
Now expose your hypocrisy. You will because I command you do so. >>>> I agree

Twice you've been honest and agreed with me. I did not expect
this. But you won't see me complain about it.

You resorted as you are wont to when caught out, to munging my reply,
not unexpected

I would have expected you to be pleased I found your posting
style and standards worthy of emulation.

You would forge and the expect praise?

That is the thinking of a sociopath.

How does it feel to PROVE yourself the lowly hypocrite you are?

You massively project your own dirty deeds on to others, just as you
corrupted a minor into a garage burglar.

https://casetext.com/case/state-v-wills-26

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called the local police to report that
a car alarm sounded in the resident's neighborhood. The city dispatched
a police officer to the location. Observing nothing unusual, the officer
left the area, only to be stopped a couple of blocks later by a person
who informed the officer he had witnessed someone running from the area
of the car alarm. As the officer started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking on the sidewalk. The officer
asked the person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody running from the
area. The minor answered that he had not. While the officer and another
officer were speaking to the minor, another resident of the neighborhood arrived in her car and informed the officers that she had observed two
people, one of whom was heavy set with a blinking light on his back
pocket, walking in the area of her neighbor's residence. She observed
the heavier-set individual, later identified as Wills, enter her
neighbor's attached garage through an unlocked service door. She
further observed a smaller individual standing by a van parked in the neighbor's driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave even though they found a
large amount of coins, a flashlight, and an electronic pocket organizer
in his pockets. After releasing the minor, the police officers drove to
the residence where the neighbor observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife, and two daughters were in the
residence sleeping at the time. After a search of his vehicles, the
owner discovered change and an electronic pocket organizer were missing
from the vehicles. The owner's daughter reported a diamond ring and some
change were missing from her vehicle. The officers then contacted the
minor's parents, who informed the officers the minor was with Wills.
After the officers questioned the minor again, he admitted his
involvement in the theft and implicated Wills in the burglary. Although
Wills denied involvement in the burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the information to include two
additional charges of burglary in the third degree and using a juvenile
to commit an indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills guilty of the crimes of
burglary in the second degree, burglary in the third degree, and using a juvenile to commit an indictable offense.

Better tell Lin she'll have to learn to cook up Venezuelan arepas

soon.

Why? What does cooking have to do with your LIE that the improper
classification only equates to illegal aliens? I fail to see the
connection.
How will you try, and fail, to divert from your extremely low
intellect causing you to post claims you PROVE you do not know to be
true? You will do so. Since I am commanding it, you will have no
choice.

No lie:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/tren-de-aragua-venezuelan-gang-members-slip-into-us-rcna156290

'Ghost criminals': How Venezuelan gang members are slipping into the

U.S.

Cases linked to Tren de Aragua, including sex trafficking and a
shooting, show how hard it is for border agents to vet migrants from
nations that won't provide criminal background info.

[...]

Again you do as I command

Again your tawdry history puts itself:

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have discussed, the residence is
the one and only "occupied structure" under the facts of this case. Had
Wills' trial counsel made this objection to the instruction, it would
have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting to the instruction because
there was no legal basis for the motion or objection. See State v.
Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234, 238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise an issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district court because Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:22:47 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

Btw, is Lin an "illegal" or have you seen to it that she's naturalized?

She was born in the USA. But you know this.

I would have no way to know this, save for your telling

And I've told you. Why act like you don't know?
When are you going to address your initial lie? Are you
embarrassed that I exposed it with such little effort?

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:48:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

K Wills <kw63@kw63.kw> wrote in >news:tmtpfj1dfh49f9lbu8ur42hjisov2ml9kl@4ax.com:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 09:46:04 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Actual American citizens can always prove their legitimacy and
residency and vote as they wish - LEGALLY!

That they can doesn't mean they did. The article you linked to
doesn't tell us either way.

And he's wrong - not all actual, natural-born citizens can prove it - lack
of money, time off their jobs, their birth records were destroyed in fires
or floods, Midwife didn't file the paperwork, etc. This is especially true >of older folk - and the witnesses to their birth died of old age.
Reservation indians are citizens, but their birth records are often
missing. There's many reasons why someone might not prove their
citizenship.

But Mitty focuses on possible illegal aliens alone.

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KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:25:19 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 09:40:34 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

I'm glad you are able to be honest enough to agree.
Now expose your hypocrisy. You will because I command you do so. >>>>> I agree

Twice you've been honest and agreed with me. I did not expect
this. But you won't see me complain about it.

You resorted as you are wont to when caught out, to munging my reply,
not unexpected

I would have expected you to be pleased I found your posting
style and standards worthy of emulation.

You would forge and the expect praise?

Did I mung or forge? You can't even decide which of your styles
and standards I adopted for my reply.
If either, or both, are so bad, why do you consistently make use
of them? I really do want to know. But I don't expect you to answer.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with Harris - but >> there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you have to
do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the “crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and so forth yet Trump is able to
fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show.
The guy is like the energizer bunny.

Has anyone seen Kamala lately?


--
pothead
Kamala Harris Word Salad Special Of The Day
Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

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On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with Harris - but there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump- audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you have to
do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the “crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

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On 9/19/2024 10:45 AM, Frank wrote:

On 9/19/2024 11:03 AM, pothead wrote:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

   Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you have to >>> do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the “crazy”
audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to
fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally and then head to NYC and
appear on a late night TV show.
The guy is like the energizer bunny.

Has anyone seen Kamala lately?

The show was taped earlier than the rally.  I saw the show and it was
quite entertaining.  Trump is a fireball doing what he does and gets by
with as little as 4 hours sleep a day.  He also tells you specifics on
what he will do to reduce inflation and the like while Harris just gives platitudes, more government spending, higher taxes and reducing price
gouging at grocery stores as if we all know profit margin is only one to
two percent.  She also blames the rich which is a Marxist hallmark.

To your point, the DemoCrap party is the actual political residence of
the "rich", their personal old money laundering and vote-buying machine.

This is why income disparity never abates despite their claimed "working
man's party" bullshite and lies.

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vchefc$jv55$2@dont-email.me:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you
have to do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the
“crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally
and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show. The guy is
like the energizer bunny.

Flying around is easy when you
own your own airliner thanks to the
millions your Daddy gave you.

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

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On 9/19/2024 12:03 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

Your cornholed your way to poverty - the old fashioned way.

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vchefc$jv55$2@dont-email.me:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you
have to do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the
“crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally
and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show. The guy is
like the energizer bunny.

Has anyone seen Kamala lately?

So you idiots say tRump doesn't know the difference between audience and ratings? So the RATINGS ... WENT CRAZY for tRUMP?!!!

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Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB1F283068127C629555@ 185.151.15.190:

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vchefc$jv55$2@dont-email.me:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you
have to do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the
“crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally
and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show. The guy is
like the energizer bunny.

Flying around is easy when you
own your own airliner thanks to the
millions your Daddy gave you.

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

Plenty of sleep on the plane - so he's awake a couple hours during the
day, and another couple hours at night. Meanwhile he can't articulate a complete sentence, or pronounce half his words.

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On 9/19/2024 12:43 PM, Baxter wrote:

So the RATINGS ... WENT CRAZY for tRUMP?!!!

So very true, yes.

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On 9/19/2024 1:00 PM, Baxter wrote:

he can't articulate

Chop that absurd old man ponytail off, greaseball.

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On 9/26/24 03:16, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:

T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and
I'll show you a blithering idiot.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/08/918/516/cartoon-080122-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy
"There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth) and no Pravda in Izvestia"

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Mandatory ObamaCare is a huge example of socialism.

not by definition.

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K Wills <kw63@kw63.kw> wrote in news:2h2afjtn4steau9icdv8sud2o22jrjvctl@ 4ax.com:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:11:59 -0600, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Is the spelling of Trump done like this ----> tRump.

Is that childish or what?

It is.

'Course you have to talk to conservaturds at their level.

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd36k9$3rpa2$7@dont-email.me:

On 9/25/24 19:59, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

If you are joking, then Smiles. Castro
wasn't a communist either until he took power.

Well, he wasn't card-carrying, but he certainly embraced the communist ideology.

If not, look up Comrade Bernie Sanders. In an
odd twist, CPUSA have now become the Democrats'
Fellow Travelers.

Socialists and Social Democrats do have some in common, but are
fundamentally different. The things embraced by Social Democrats such as
Bernie are popular with working people (not so much with the filthy
rich.)

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Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f8c51c38c7cfcb$362$2880865$4cd50660@news.newsdemon.com:

Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

Mandatory ObamaCare is a huge example of socialism.

Yawn.
=============
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people
have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism"
on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at
all.

What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin
Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's
all he means.

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd3hml$3rpa2$9@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 03:16, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:

T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classi
fied_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and
I'll show you a blithering idiot.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/ 2022/08/918/516/cartoon-080122-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy
"There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth) and no Pravda in
Izvestia"

===========
JD Vance Said 'Car Seat Rules' Are Causing Americans To Have Fewer Kids

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vance-car-seat-rules/

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Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

No, you truly are a liar and a traitor to your own nation, you subhuman wretched filth!

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

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Baxter wrote:

NO US politician advocating socialism

LIAR!

Commie-La's communism plan:


https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1824840348008391127

@RobertMSterling
People need to stop overreacting about Kamala’s plan to reduce food inflation, as if it would lead to communism, mass starvation, and the
end of America.

I worked in M&A in the food industry. Here’s a step-by-step summary of
what would actually happen:

1. The government announces that grocery retailers aren’t allowed to
raise prices.

2. Grocery stores, which operate on 1-2% net margins, can’t survive if
their suppliers raise prices. So the government announces that food
producers (Kraft Heinz, ConAgra, Tyson, Hormel, et. al.) also aren’t
allowed to raise prices.

3. Not all grocery stores are created equal. Stores in lower-income
areas make less money than those in higher-income areas, as the former disproportionately sell lower-margin prepackaged foods (“center of the store”) instead of higher-margin fresh products like meat (“perimeter of the store”). Because stores in lower-income areas aren’t able to cover overhead (remember, even if their wholesale costs are fixed, their
labor, utilities, insurance, and other operating expenses aren’t fixed… yet), grocery chains start to shut them down. Food deserts in rural
areas and in low-income urban areas alike become worse.

4. Meanwhile, margins for food producers are also quickly eroding. Their primary costs (ingredients, energy, and labor) aren’t fixed, and their shrinking gross profits leave less cash flow available to cover
overhead, maintain facilities, and reinvest in additional production
capacity.

5. Grocery chains, which have finite shelf space, start to repurpose
their stores (those they didn’t have to shut down, I should say) to sell
more non-price-controlled items—everything from nutrition supplements to kitchenware to apparel—and less price-controlled food products. Your
local Kroger or Safeway starts to look and feel more like a Walmart.

6. Food producers stop making products with lower margins. Grocery chain
start competing with each other to secure inventory. Since they can’t
compete by offering stronger prices (remember, producers aren’t allowed
to raise prices here, and, even if they could, grocery chains no longer
have the gross profit to bear price increases), they compete on things
like payment terms.

7. Small grocery chains start to shut down entirely, or get sold to
larger chains like Kroger. In addition to not being able to cover fixed
costs, a major reason for this is because they can no longer reliably
secure delivery of products, due to producers prioritizing sales to
larger customers, which are able to leverage their stronger balance
sheets to offer superior payment terms.

8. Smaller food producers—which typically sell via distributors, rather
than directly to grocery chains—start to go out of business. Because
these producers have an additional step their value chains, and because
they have lower volumes over which to spread their fixed costs, their
cost structure is inherently disadvantaged compared to major food
producers. When grocery stores aren’t able to raise prices, cutting
product costs becomes all the more important, and deprioritizing
purchases from smaller producers is an easy way to do so.

9. As supply chains break down, lines start to form outside grocery
stores every morning. Cities assign police officers to patrol store
parking lots, and food producers draft contingency plans to assign armed escorts to delivery trucks.

10. The federal government announces a program to issue block grants for
states to purchase and operate shuttered grocery stores. The USDA also
seizes closed-down production facilities.

11. The government announces that prices for all key food costs—corn,
wheat, cattle, energy, etc.—are also now fixed, to stop “profiteers”
from gouging the now-government-operated food industry.

12. Shockingly, the government struggles to operate one of the most
complex industries on the planet. The entire food supply chain starts imploding.

13. Communism, mass starvation, and the end of America quickly ensue.

Hey wait a second...????


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On 9/26/2024 7:55 AM, Baxter wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f8c51c38c7cfcb$362$2880865$4cd50660@news.newsdemon.com:

Mandatory ObamaCare is a huge example of socialism.

Yawn.

Spammy shitstain is a huge example of boring stupidity.

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K Wills wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:22:20 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:23:55 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:30:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

"Illegals" can't and don't vote

BULLSHIT LIE!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

Arizona was one of many states alleged to have been rife with voter >>>>>

[...]

Note the word "alleged."

Note the language in our own voting rights act which allows for "belief" >>>> to be an excuse for illegal voting.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of >>>> such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title II, §216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110 >>>> Stat. 3009–572 ; amended Pub. L. 106–395, title II, §201(d)(1), Oct. 30,
2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

Our own legislators have SCREWED us!

How?

Does your mental acumen stretch no farther than corrupting a minor to
garage burglary?

Deception noted.

Yours - garage burglar boi.

That you cannot comprehend written English only means you
cannot comprehend it. Nothing more.

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Clear as day, all an illegal has to do is state their belief in being a
citizen of the United States.

Please take a second grade reading class. You prove you need it.

Please stop the insane denialism, it reflects what a total deceitful
louse you are as a human.


https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Does that bother you, garage burglar boi?

What is a "garage burglar boi?"

Mitty? Is the question to far above your intellectual level to answer? Spoiler: It is.

Your record is open for all to view.

Now offer your deception to divert from your inability to
comprehend the written word.

Sean Michael Bilyeu comes to mind...

Aw... Do you have a little crush?

Odd transference there, was it romance and garage burglary for you two?

Ok...

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

Way to do EXACTLY as I command without question or pause.
It must suck to be unable to resist doing what I tell you to do.

Except you did not such thing, only your delusions rule your denialist mind.

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K Wills wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:24:05 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:30:58 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

You got any proof those voter are non-citizens?

AGAIN:


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

[...]

So, no. You do not have any proof.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

You already PROVED you have nothing to offer to prove they're non-citizens.

Easily done - one checks tax bills, naturalization papers, etc.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

The Arizona Supreme Court's ruling that nearly 98,000 voters wrongly
classified by a database "error" will be eligible to vote in elections
despite their absence of proof of citizenship highlights the
consequences of the state's failure to correct those systemic failures
and the continued threat they pose to the integrity of the outcome of
the 2024 Presidential Election.

And now you're trying to divert from this truth. You
will continue. I have commanded that you do.

You have delusions of not so much grandeur.

And, as you've proved, you have no ability to resist doing as I
command.

Satan, is that what is in you?

I think it is!

The one and only way you will not do so is to run away from
the truth.

Currently, Arizona law prohibits voters without proof of citizenship
from voting in state and local elections. Following a United States
Supreme Court decision in August, voters in Arizona do not have to
provide documentary proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections.
Instead, they simply must attest that they are citizens under penalty of perjury when filling out a federal voter registration form distinct from
those used to register to vote in state and local elections.


Richer filed a special action with the Arizona Supreme Court asserting
that those 98,000 or so voters should only be allowed to vote in the
federal elections in 2024, pursuant to state law. “It is my position
that these registrants have not satisfied Arizona’s documented proof of citizenship law, and therefore can only vote a ‘FED ONLY’ ballot,” he stated. In his filing, Richer alleged that the Secretary Of State
violated state law when he advised county election officials to allow
the voters affected by the error to cast their votes on full ballots. In response to Richer's allegation, Secretary Fontes responded by asserting
that precluding those voters from doing so raised constitutional issues
on their rights to due process and equal protection under the law.

Ultimately, the Arizona Supreme Court rendered a decision rejecting
Richer's special action on Friday, meaning that those voters were
eligible to receive full ballots for the 2024 election despite not
having provided proof of citizenship. The court made the decision on the
basis that county officials did not have authority to change the status
of voters. While the 98,000 voters had not provided proof of citizenship
to vote in state and local elections, they had sworn under penalty of
law that they were citizens in order to vote in federal elections. As
such, state election officials did not have the jurisdiction to make a determination on the veracity of that attestation.



https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title II, §216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110
Stat. 3009–572 ; amended Pub. L. 106–395, title II, §201(d)(1), Oct. 30, 2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

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Governor Swill wrote:

From that list, just under half is established fact.

America First:
A Return to Common Sense
Our Nation's History is filled with the stories of brave men and women
who gave everything they had to build America into the Greatest Nation
in the History of the World. Generations of American Patriots have
summoned the American Spirit of Strength, Determination, and Love of
Country to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. The American
People have proven time and again that we can overcome any obstacle and
any force pitted against us.

In the early days of our Republic, the Founding Generation defeated what
was then the most powerful Empire the World had ever seen. In the 20th
Century, America vanquished Nazism and Fascism, and then triumphed over
Soviet Communism after forty-four years of the Cold War.

But now we are a Nation in SERIOUS DECLINE. Our future, our identity,
and our very way of life are under threat like never before. Today we
must once again call upon the same American Spirit that led us to
prevail through every challenge of the past if we are going to lead our
Nation to a brighter future.

For decades, our politicians sold our jobs and livelihoods to the
highest bidders overseas with unfair Trade Deals and a blind faith in
the siren song of globalism. They insulated themselves from criticism
and the consequences of their own bad actions, allowing our Borders to
be overrun, our cities to be overtaken by crime, our System of Justice
to be weaponized, and our young people to develop a sense of
hopelessness and despair. They rejected our History and our Values.
Quite simply, they did everything in their power to destroy our Country.

In 2016, President Donald J. Trump was elected as an unapologetic
Champion of the American People. He reignited the American Spirit and
called on us to renew our National Pride. His Policies spurred Historic Economic Growth, Job Creation, and a Resurgence of American
Manufacturing. President Trump and the Republican Party led America out
of the pessimism induced by decades of failed leadership, showing us
that the American People want Greatness for our Country again.

Yet after nearly four years of the Biden administration, America is now
rocked by Raging Inflation, Open Borders, Rampant Crime, Attacks on our Children, and Global Conflict, Chaos, and Instability.

Like the Heroes who built and defended this Nation before us, we will
never give up. We will restore our Nation of, by, and for the People. We
will Make America Great Again.

We will be a Nation based on Truth, Justice, and Common Sense.

Common Sense tells us clearly, in President Trump's words, that "If we
don't have a Border, we don't have a Country." Restoring sensible Border Security and Immigration Policy requires many steps, all of which would
have been and indeed were taken for granted by prior Generations as
obviously necessary and good. We must secure our Southern Border by
completing the Border Wall that President Trump started. Hundreds of
miles have already been built and work magnificently. The remaining Wall construction can be completed quickly, effectively, and inexpensively.
We must also vigilantly check those who enter our Country by other
routes and ensure that no one can enter our Country who does not have
the Legal Right to do so, and we must deport the millions of illegal
Migrants who Joe Biden has deliberately encouraged to invade our
Country. We will start by prioritizing the most dangerous criminals and
working with local Police. We must not allow Biden's Migrant Invasion to
alter our Country. It must not stand. Under the Trump Administration and
a Republican Congress, it will be defeated immediately.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have Domestic
Manufacturing with low Inflation, not only will our Economy—and even our Military Equipment and Supplies—be at the mercy of Foreign Nations, but
our Towns, Communities, and People cannot thrive. The Republican Party
must return to its roots as the Party of Industry, Manufacturing, Infrastructure, and Workers. President Trump's economic policy to end
Inflation and return Manufacturing Jobs is not only what the American
Economy and American Workers need right now, it is also what they want
right now.

Common Sense tells us clearly that we must unleash American Energy if we
want to destroy Inflation and rapidly bring down prices, build the
Greatest Economy in History, revive our Defense Industrial Base, fuel
Emerging Industries, and establish the United States as the
Manufacturing Superpower of the World. We will DRILL, BABY, DRILL and we
will become Energy Independent, and even Dominant again. The United
States has more liquid gold under our feet than any other Nation, and
it's not even close. The Republican Party will harness that potential to
power our future.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have a Strong Military,
we won't be able to defend our interests and we will be at the mercy of
Hostile Nations. The Policy of the Republican Party must be to ensure
that America's Military is the strongest and best-equipped in the
World—and that our Government uses that great strength sparingly, and
only in clear instances where our National Interests are threatened.

Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
Equal Treatment for All. Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.

America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
American System of Justice, and much more.

To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
the House and Senate.

SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
REGULATIONS
CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
PATRIOTIC AGAIN
SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
*****

When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
will never fail.

Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!
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Governor Swill wrote:

I've let you troll me enough. Buh-bye!

Yes, do slink away you treasonous pit viper scumbag.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

America First:

A Return to Common Sense

Our Nation's History is filled with the stories of brave men and women
who gave everything they had to build America into the Greatest Nation
in the History of the World. Generations of American Patriots have
summoned the American Spirit of Strength, Determination, and Love of
Country to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. The American
People have proven time and again that we can overcome any obstacle and
any force pitted against us.

In the early days of our Republic, the Founding Generation defeated what
was then the most powerful Empire the World had ever seen. In the 20th
Century, America vanquished Nazism and Fascism, and then triumphed over
Soviet Communism after forty-four years of the Cold War.

But now we are a Nation in SERIOUS DECLINE. Our future, our identity,
and our very way of life are under threat like never before. Today we
must once again call upon the same American Spirit that led us to
prevail through every challenge of the past if we are going to lead our
Nation to a brighter future.

For decades, our politicians sold our jobs and livelihoods to the
highest bidders overseas with unfair Trade Deals and a blind faith in
the siren song of globalism. They insulated themselves from criticism
and the consequences of their own bad actions, allowing our Borders to
be overrun, our cities to be overtaken by crime, our System of Justice
to be weaponized, and our young people to develop a sense of
hopelessness and despair. They rejected our History and our Values.
Quite simply, they did everything in their power to destroy our Country.

In 2016, President Donald J. Trump was elected as an unapologetic
Champion of the American People. He reignited the American Spirit and
called on us to renew our National Pride. His Policies spurred Historic Economic Growth, Job Creation, and a Resurgence of American
Manufacturing. President Trump and the Republican Party led America out
of the pessimism induced by decades of failed leadership, showing us
that the American People want Greatness for our Country again.

Yet after nearly four years of the Biden administration, America is now
rocked by Raging Inflation, Open Borders, Rampant Crime, Attacks on our Children, and Global Conflict, Chaos, and Instability.

Like the Heroes who built and defended this Nation before us, we will
never give up. We will restore our Nation of, by, and for the People. We
will Make America Great Again.

We will be a Nation based on Truth, Justice, and Common Sense.

Common Sense tells us clearly, in President Trump's words, that "If we
don't have a Border, we don't have a Country." Restoring sensible Border Security and Immigration Policy requires many steps, all of which would
have been and indeed were taken for granted by prior Generations as
obviously necessary and good. We must secure our Southern Border by
completing the Border Wall that President Trump started. Hundreds of
miles have already been built and work magnificently. The remaining Wall construction can be completed quickly, effectively, and inexpensively.
We must also vigilantly check those who enter our Country by other
routes and ensure that no one can enter our Country who does not have
the Legal Right to do so, and we must deport the millions of illegal
Migrants who Joe Biden has deliberately encouraged to invade our
Country. We will start by prioritizing the most dangerous criminals and
working with local Police. We must not allow Biden's Migrant Invasion to
alter our Country. It must not stand. Under the Trump Administration and
a Republican Congress, it will be defeated immediately.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have Domestic
Manufacturing with low Inflation, not only will our Economy—and even our Military Equipment and Supplies—be at the mercy of Foreign Nations, but
our Towns, Communities, and People cannot thrive. The Republican Party
must return to its roots as the Party of Industry, Manufacturing, Infrastructure, and Workers. President Trump's economic policy to end
Inflation and return Manufacturing Jobs is not only what the American
Economy and American Workers need right now, it is also what they want
right now.

Common Sense tells us clearly that we must unleash American Energy if we
want to destroy Inflation and rapidly bring down prices, build the
Greatest Economy in History, revive our Defense Industrial Base, fuel
Emerging Industries, and establish the United States as the
Manufacturing Superpower of the World. We will DRILL, BABY, DRILL and we
will become Energy Independent, and even Dominant again. The United
States has more liquid gold under our feet than any other Nation, and
it's not even close. The Republican Party will harness that potential to
power our future.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have a Strong Military,
we won't be able to defend our interests and we will be at the mercy of
Hostile Nations. The Policy of the Republican Party must be to ensure
that America's Military is the strongest and best-equipped in the
World—and that our Government uses that great strength sparingly, and
only in clear instances where our National Interests are threatened.

Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
Equal Treatment for All. Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.

America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
American System of Justice, and much more.

To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
the House and Senate.

SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
REGULATIONS
CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
PATRIOTIC AGAIN
SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
*****

When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
will never fail.

Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Baxter wrote:

Socialists and Social Democrats do have some in common,

Mix in some wage and price controls on food and drugs and CommieLa
becomes the dictator-elect of The United Refugee Zone of Criminal Migrants.


https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1824840348008391127

@RobertMSterling
People need to stop overreacting about Kamala’s plan to reduce food inflation, as if it would lead to communism, mass starvation, and the
end of America.

I worked in M&A in the food industry. Here’s a step-by-step summary of
what would actually happen:

1. The government announces that grocery retailers aren’t allowed to
raise prices.

2. Grocery stores, which operate on 1-2% net margins, can’t survive if
their suppliers raise prices. So the government announces that food
producers (Kraft Heinz, ConAgra, Tyson, Hormel, et. al.) also aren’t
allowed to raise prices.

3. Not all grocery stores are created equal. Stores in lower-income
areas make less money than those in higher-income areas, as the former disproportionately sell lower-margin prepackaged foods (“center of the store”) instead of higher-margin fresh products like meat (“perimeter of the store”). Because stores in lower-income areas aren’t able to cover overhead (remember, even if their wholesale costs are fixed, their
labor, utilities, insurance, and other operating expenses aren’t fixed… yet), grocery chains start to shut them down. Food deserts in rural
areas and in low-income urban areas alike become worse.

4. Meanwhile, margins for food producers are also quickly eroding. Their primary costs (ingredients, energy, and labor) aren’t fixed, and their shrinking gross profits leave less cash flow available to cover
overhead, maintain facilities, and reinvest in additional production
capacity.

5. Grocery chains, which have finite shelf space, start to repurpose
their stores (those they didn’t have to shut down, I should say) to sell
more non-price-controlled items—everything from nutrition supplements to kitchenware to apparel—and less price-controlled food products. Your
local Kroger or Safeway starts to look and feel more like a Walmart.

6. Food producers stop making products with lower margins. Grocery chain
start competing with each other to secure inventory. Since they can’t
compete by offering stronger prices (remember, producers aren’t allowed
to raise prices here, and, even if they could, grocery chains no longer
have the gross profit to bear price increases), they compete on things
like payment terms.

7. Small grocery chains start to shut down entirely, or get sold to
larger chains like Kroger. In addition to not being able to cover fixed
costs, a major reason for this is because they can no longer reliably
secure delivery of products, due to producers prioritizing sales to
larger customers, which are able to leverage their stronger balance
sheets to offer superior payment terms.

8. Smaller food producers—which typically sell via distributors, rather
than directly to grocery chains—start to go out of business. Because
these producers have an additional step their value chains, and because
they have lower volumes over which to spread their fixed costs, their
cost structure is inherently disadvantaged compared to major food
producers. When grocery stores aren’t able to raise prices, cutting
product costs becomes all the more important, and deprioritizing
purchases from smaller producers is an easy way to do so.

9. As supply chains break down, lines start to form outside grocery
stores every morning. Cities assign police officers to patrol store
parking lots, and food producers draft contingency plans to assign armed escorts to delivery trucks.

10. The federal government announces a program to issue block grants for
states to purchase and operate shuttered grocery stores. The USDA also
seizes closed-down production facilities.

11. The government announces that prices for all key food costs—corn,
wheat, cattle, energy, etc.—are also now fixed, to stop “profiteers”
from gouging the now-government-operated food industry.

12. Shockingly, the government struggles to operate one of the most
complex industries on the planet. The entire food supply chain starts imploding.

13. Communism, mass starvation, and the end of America quickly ensue.

Hey wait a second...????

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In article <vd3skr$7fs5$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...

Yawn.
=============
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people
have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism"
on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.

It also lets the lazy and sorry people live off the hard work of the
others. It does not help all the people.

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Baxter wrote:

JD Vance Said

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

America First:

A Return to Common Sense

Our Nation's History is filled with the stories of brave men and women
who gave everything they had to build America into the Greatest Nation
in the History of the World. Generations of American Patriots have
summoned the American Spirit of Strength, Determination, and Love of
Country to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. The American
People have proven time and again that we can overcome any obstacle and
any force pitted against us.

In the early days of our Republic, the Founding Generation defeated what
was then the most powerful Empire the World had ever seen. In the 20th
Century, America vanquished Nazism and Fascism, and then triumphed over
Soviet Communism after forty-four years of the Cold War.

But now we are a Nation in SERIOUS DECLINE. Our future, our identity,
and our very way of life are under threat like never before. Today we
must once again call upon the same American Spirit that led us to
prevail through every challenge of the past if we are going to lead our
Nation to a brighter future.

For decades, our politicians sold our jobs and livelihoods to the
highest bidders overseas with unfair Trade Deals and a blind faith in
the siren song of globalism. They insulated themselves from criticism
and the consequences of their own bad actions, allowing our Borders to
be overrun, our cities to be overtaken by crime, our System of Justice
to be weaponized, and our young people to develop a sense of
hopelessness and despair. They rejected our History and our Values.
Quite simply, they did everything in their power to destroy our Country.

In 2016, President Donald J. Trump was elected as an unapologetic
Champion of the American People. He reignited the American Spirit and
called on us to renew our National Pride. His Policies spurred Historic Economic Growth, Job Creation, and a Resurgence of American
Manufacturing. President Trump and the Republican Party led America out
of the pessimism induced by decades of failed leadership, showing us
that the American People want Greatness for our Country again.

Yet after nearly four years of the Biden administration, America is now
rocked by Raging Inflation, Open Borders, Rampant Crime, Attacks on our Children, and Global Conflict, Chaos, and Instability.

Like the Heroes who built and defended this Nation before us, we will
never give up. We will restore our Nation of, by, and for the People. We
will Make America Great Again.

We will be a Nation based on Truth, Justice, and Common Sense.

Common Sense tells us clearly, in President Trump's words, that "If we
don't have a Border, we don't have a Country." Restoring sensible Border Security and Immigration Policy requires many steps, all of which would
have been and indeed were taken for granted by prior Generations as
obviously necessary and good. We must secure our Southern Border by
completing the Border Wall that President Trump started. Hundreds of
miles have already been built and work magnificently. The remaining Wall construction can be completed quickly, effectively, and inexpensively.
We must also vigilantly check those who enter our Country by other
routes and ensure that no one can enter our Country who does not have
the Legal Right to do so, and we must deport the millions of illegal
Migrants who Joe Biden has deliberately encouraged to invade our
Country. We will start by prioritizing the most dangerous criminals and
working with local Police. We must not allow Biden's Migrant Invasion to
alter our Country. It must not stand. Under the Trump Administration and
a Republican Congress, it will be defeated immediately.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have Domestic
Manufacturing with low Inflation, not only will our Economy—and even our Military Equipment and Supplies—be at the mercy of Foreign Nations, but
our Towns, Communities, and People cannot thrive. The Republican Party
must return to its roots as the Party of Industry, Manufacturing, Infrastructure, and Workers. President Trump's economic policy to end
Inflation and return Manufacturing Jobs is not only what the American
Economy and American Workers need right now, it is also what they want
right now.

Common Sense tells us clearly that we must unleash American Energy if we
want to destroy Inflation and rapidly bring down prices, build the
Greatest Economy in History, revive our Defense Industrial Base, fuel
Emerging Industries, and establish the United States as the
Manufacturing Superpower of the World. We will DRILL, BABY, DRILL and we
will become Energy Independent, and even Dominant again. The United
States has more liquid gold under our feet than any other Nation, and
it's not even close. The Republican Party will harness that potential to
power our future.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have a Strong Military,
we won't be able to defend our interests and we will be at the mercy of
Hostile Nations. The Policy of the Republican Party must be to ensure
that America's Military is the strongest and best-equipped in the
World—and that our Government uses that great strength sparingly, and
only in clear instances where our National Interests are threatened.

Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
Equal Treatment for All. Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.

America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
American System of Justice, and much more.

To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
the House and Senate.

SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
REGULATIONS
CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
PATRIOTIC AGAIN
SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
*****

When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
will never fail.

Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!

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Cune I. Form wrote:

boring stupidity.

The storm is coming:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

America First:

A Return to Common Sense

Our Nation's History is filled with the stories of brave men and women
who gave everything they had to build America into the Greatest Nation
in the History of the World. Generations of American Patriots have
summoned the American Spirit of Strength, Determination, and Love of
Country to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. The American
People have proven time and again that we can overcome any obstacle and
any force pitted against us.

In the early days of our Republic, the Founding Generation defeated what
was then the most powerful Empire the World had ever seen. In the 20th
Century, America vanquished Nazism and Fascism, and then triumphed over
Soviet Communism after forty-four years of the Cold War.

But now we are a Nation in SERIOUS DECLINE. Our future, our identity,
and our very way of life are under threat like never before. Today we
must once again call upon the same American Spirit that led us to
prevail through every challenge of the past if we are going to lead our
Nation to a brighter future.

For decades, our politicians sold our jobs and livelihoods to the
highest bidders overseas with unfair Trade Deals and a blind faith in
the siren song of globalism. They insulated themselves from criticism
and the consequences of their own bad actions, allowing our Borders to
be overrun, our cities to be overtaken by crime, our System of Justice
to be weaponized, and our young people to develop a sense of
hopelessness and despair. They rejected our History and our Values.
Quite simply, they did everything in their power to destroy our Country.

In 2016, President Donald J. Trump was elected as an unapologetic
Champion of the American People. He reignited the American Spirit and
called on us to renew our National Pride. His Policies spurred Historic Economic Growth, Job Creation, and a Resurgence of American
Manufacturing. President Trump and the Republican Party led America out
of the pessimism induced by decades of failed leadership, showing us
that the American People want Greatness for our Country again.

Yet after nearly four years of the Biden administration, America is now
rocked by Raging Inflation, Open Borders, Rampant Crime, Attacks on our Children, and Global Conflict, Chaos, and Instability.

Like the Heroes who built and defended this Nation before us, we will
never give up. We will restore our Nation of, by, and for the People. We
will Make America Great Again.

We will be a Nation based on Truth, Justice, and Common Sense.

Common Sense tells us clearly, in President Trump's words, that "If we
don't have a Border, we don't have a Country." Restoring sensible Border Security and Immigration Policy requires many steps, all of which would
have been and indeed were taken for granted by prior Generations as
obviously necessary and good. We must secure our Southern Border by
completing the Border Wall that President Trump started. Hundreds of
miles have already been built and work magnificently. The remaining Wall construction can be completed quickly, effectively, and inexpensively.
We must also vigilantly check those who enter our Country by other
routes and ensure that no one can enter our Country who does not have
the Legal Right to do so, and we must deport the millions of illegal
Migrants who Joe Biden has deliberately encouraged to invade our
Country. We will start by prioritizing the most dangerous criminals and
working with local Police. We must not allow Biden's Migrant Invasion to
alter our Country. It must not stand. Under the Trump Administration and
a Republican Congress, it will be defeated immediately.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have Domestic
Manufacturing with low Inflation, not only will our Economy—and even our Military Equipment and Supplies—be at the mercy of Foreign Nations, but
our Towns, Communities, and People cannot thrive. The Republican Party
must return to its roots as the Party of Industry, Manufacturing, Infrastructure, and Workers. President Trump's economic policy to end
Inflation and return Manufacturing Jobs is not only what the American
Economy and American Workers need right now, it is also what they want
right now.

Common Sense tells us clearly that we must unleash American Energy if we
want to destroy Inflation and rapidly bring down prices, build the
Greatest Economy in History, revive our Defense Industrial Base, fuel
Emerging Industries, and establish the United States as the
Manufacturing Superpower of the World. We will DRILL, BABY, DRILL and we
will become Energy Independent, and even Dominant again. The United
States has more liquid gold under our feet than any other Nation, and
it's not even close. The Republican Party will harness that potential to
power our future.

Common Sense tells us clearly that if we don't have a Strong Military,
we won't be able to defend our interests and we will be at the mercy of
Hostile Nations. The Policy of the Republican Party must be to ensure
that America's Military is the strongest and best-equipped in the
World—and that our Government uses that great strength sparingly, and
only in clear instances where our National Interests are threatened.

Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
Equal Treatment for All. Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.

America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
American System of Justice, and much more.

To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
the House and Senate.

SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
REGULATIONS
CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
PATRIOTIC AGAIN
SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
*****

When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
will never fail.

Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!

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On 9/26/24 07:53, Baxter wrote:

If not, look up Comrade Bernie Sanders. In an
odd twist, CPUSA have now become the Democrats'
Fellow Travelers.

Socialists and Social Democrats do have some in common, but are
fundamentally different. The things embraced by Social Democrats such as Bernie are popular with working people (not so much with the filthy
rich.)

The only difference is how they get in power. Once
there, there is no difference and they are damned
near impossible to remove.

No socialist will call himself a communist/fascist
as it is really, really unpopular with the people.
They wait until the seize power.

Bernie? Popular with working people? Only
with the anointed. This is wishful thinking
on your part. Under socialism, the rich
get richer and the poor get poorer.

I notice that you like to divide people by class
(filthy rich, etc.). This is the Communist
way of doing things.

Have you noticed that the democrats, and their fellow
travelers the Marxist communists, are now dividing folks by
race? DEI, Critical Race Theory, 1619 project, etc..
This is the Marxist fascist model. The communists
have now become what they claim to hate.

By the way, the Fascists claimed that they had perfected
Marxist Communism. There is not a lot of difference
between fascists and communists. How they divide
folks and how they control industry. Hitler
himself claimed there was no difference between
National Socialism and Communism. Left Wing pigs all
the way around.

By the way, the "National" in "national Socialism"
does not mean "nationalism". It means "national unity".
Specifically, it means "Gleichschaltung": absolute
obedience and conformity. Democrats/communists call
it "political correctness".

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On 9/26/24 09:23, Mittens Romney wrote:

America First:
A Return to Common Sense

It has become the weirdos versus the normals.

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On 9/26/24 09:59, Ralph Mowery wrote:

It also lets the lazy and sorry people live off the hard work of the
others. It does not help all the people.

Socialism is stupid. When forced to give up the fruits of
your labor to other, you do the least you can get away with.
Living off the sweat of other people brows -- a really
stupid idea.

Now here is a system that has pulled more people out of
poverty that any other system in human history:

To meet you own needs, you are forced to meet the
needs of others. The voluntary exchange of goods
and services between consenting parties. And no
barrel of a gun required!

Hmmmmm.

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed
of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill

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On 9/26/24 08:02, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd3hml$3rpa2$9@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 03:16, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:

T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia - >>>>>>> THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classi >>>>> fied_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and
I'll show you a blithering idiot.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/
2022/08/918/516/cartoon-080122-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy
"There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth) and no Pravda in
Izvestia"

===========
JD Vance Said 'Car Seat Rules' Are Causing Americans To Have Fewer Kids

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vance-car-seat-rules/

"Snoops"??? They are narrative enforcers, nopt fact checkers.

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy

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Summary: weirdos versus normals

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On 9/26/24 07:55, Baxter wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f8c51c38c7cfcb$362$2880865$4cd50660@news.newsdemon.com:

Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd2c66$3rpa2$5@dont-email.me:

On 9/21/24 16:33, Baxter wrote:

Socialism makes people lazy.

Nope. And even if it did, why should you care?

400 millions souls lost in the last century alone
to socialism and still counting. Any one who believes
socialism works is ignorant or evil

There is NO US politician advocating socialism - NONE whatsoever.

Mandatory ObamaCare is a huge example of socialism.

Yawn.
=============
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people
have made in the last 20 years.

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism"
on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.

What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin
Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's
all he means.

Don't confuse the nanny state with socialism. Socialism, wherever
it has been tried has resulted in the rich getting insanely
richer beyond western standards and the poor living in squalor,
pollution, and tyranny. Socialism does not work, even on paper.
Socialism has to resort to the barrel of a gun.

Socialism: 400 million lost souls and counting. Socialism is evil.

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd51do$d4ap$1@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 08:02, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd3hml$3rpa2$9@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 03:16, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:

T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia

-

THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%

27s_disclosures_of_classi

fied_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-

800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and
I'll show you a blithering idiot.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/

2022/08/918/516/cartoon-080122-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy
"There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth) and no Pravda in
Izvestia"

===========
JD Vance Said 'Car Seat Rules' Are Causing Americans To Have Fewer

Kids

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vance-car-seat-rules/

"Snoops"??? They are narrative enforcers, nopt fact checkers.

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy

Vance made the claim - many references in NON-MSM about it. MSM is still trying to sane-wash Vance and tRump.

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd526b$d4aq$4@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 09:59, Ralph Mowery wrote:

It also lets the lazy and sorry people live off the hard work of the
others. It does not help all the people.

Socialism is stupid. When forced to give up the fruits of
your labor to other,

Like family? You work, your kids live off your work.

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On 9/26/24 20:20, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd51do$d4ap$1@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 08:02, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd3hml$3rpa2$9@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 03:16, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:

T wrote:

On 9/25/24 18:59, Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia

-

THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%

27s_disclosures_of_classi

fied_information

https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg030823dAPC-

800x0.jpg

Show me someone who gets their news from ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/PBS/NPR and >>>>> I'll show you a blithering idiot.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/

2022/08/918/516/cartoon-080122-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy
"There is no Izvestia (news) in Pravda (truth) and no Pravda in
Izvestia"

===========
JD Vance Said 'Car Seat Rules' Are Causing Americans To Have Fewer

Kids

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vance-car-seat-rules/

"Snoops"??? They are narrative enforcers, nopt fact checkers.

Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy

Vance made the claim - many references in NON-MSM about it. MSM is still trying to sane-wash Vance and tRump.

American Pravda has many outlets.

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On 9/26/24 20:23, Baxter wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vd526b$d4aq$4@dont-email.me:

On 9/26/24 09:59, Ralph Mowery wrote:

It also lets the lazy and sorry people live off the hard work of the
others. It does not help all the people.

Socialism is stupid. When forced to give up the fruits of
your labor to other,

Like family? You work, your kids live off your work.

With kids, it is a birth right. Then they have kid of their own.
Works out.

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On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:08:43 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:22:20 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:23:55 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:30:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

"Illegals" can't and don't vote

BULLSHIT LIE!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

Arizona was one of many states alleged to have been rife with voter >>>>>>

[...]

Note the word "alleged."

Note the language in our own voting rights act which allows for "belief" >>>>> to be an excuse for illegal voting.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of >>>>> such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

(Added Pub. L. 104û208, div. C, title II, º216(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110 >>>>> Stat. 3009û572 ; amended Pub. L. 106û395, title II, º201(d)(1), Oct. 30, >>>>> 2000, 114 Stat. 1635 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=114&page=1635

https://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=110&page=3009-572

Our own legislators have SCREWED us!

How?

Does your mental acumen stretch no farther than corrupting a minor to
garage burglary?

Deception noted. Now that you've played that game, and lost,
answer the question. Unless it's too cerebral for you.

Yours - garage burglar boi.

Your continued PROOF that you lack the intellect to answer is
appreciated.

That you cannot comprehend written English only means you
cannot comprehend it. Nothing more.

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Clear as day, all an illegal has to do is state their belief in being a
citizen of the United States.

Please take a second grade reading class. You prove you need it.

Please stop the insane denialism, it reflects what a total deceitful
louse you are as a human.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18+section:611+edition:prelim)

(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of
such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

Ibid.

Does that bother you, garage burglar boi?

What is a "garage burglar boi?"

Mitty? Is the question to far above your intellectual level to answer?
Spoiler: It is.

Your record is open for all to view.

You have PROVED the question is beyond your intellectual level.
While this was never in question, I still thank you for your
additional proof.

Now offer your deception to divert from your inability to
comprehend the written word.

Sean Michael Bilyeu comes to mind...

Aw... Do you have a little crush?

Odd transference there, was it romance and garage burglary for you two?

Wow. Reversal. I hadn't anticipated your use of that.
You do realize this confirms you DO have a little crush on the
man, right?

Ok...

If he's gay, you may have a chance.
What I find most interesting is that in an effort to divert from
your initial lie, you're exposing your homosexuality. It's fine that
you're gay, but to use it to try to deflect from your having lied is
really odd.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

Way to do EXACTLY as I command without question or pause.
It must suck to be unable to resist doing what I tell you to do.

Except you did not such thing, only your delusions rule your denialist mind.

You PROVE you must do as I command without question or pause.
Continue to try and divert from the reality that you've proved
you were lying from the start. I have commanded you do so, which means
you will. Your only out is to run away from the truth.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:42:08 -0400, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote:

Ed P wrote:

On 9/25/2024 9:09 PM, T wrote:

On 9/22/24 08:44, Baxter wrote:

tRump gave Classified secrets to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia -
THAT is
treason.

Liar

Questionable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

I think wikipedia is ground zero for political disinformation. Sheeesh!

It's not bad as a starting point. But don't depend upon it.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:13:17 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:24:05 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

K Wills wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:30:58 -0600, Mittens Romney
<robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

Baxter wrote:

You got any proof those voter are non-citizens?

AGAIN:


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

[...]

So, no. You do not have any proof.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.misc/c/Ou60H28ExUw

You already PROVED you have nothing to offer to prove they're
non-citizens.

Easily done - one checks tax bills, naturalization papers, etc.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-09-20/arizona-supreme-court-rules-98000-ineligible-voters-can-vote-2024-election

The Arizona Supreme Court's ruling that nearly 98,000 voters wrongly >classified by a database "error" will be eligible to vote in elections >despite their absence of proof of citizenship highlights the
consequences of the state's failure to correct those systemic failures
and the continued threat they pose to the integrity of the outcome of
the 2024 Presidential Election.

[...]

Had you made it past sixth grade, you would understand this
doesn't mean they are not citizens. Only that they were classified as
eligible to vote without providing the proper documentation. That
you're using zerohedge as your source pretty much gives cause to
accept the claim you present isn't fully true.
If you have actual evidence (REAL evidence and not the delusions
your low intellect force upon you), present it. Since you have none,
you will offer deception, or run away from the truth.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

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Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

No, he SAID he donated his salary.

Just like he said he would release his
taxes and not play golf.

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

JFK did that.

Did Reagan do that?

Did either Bush do that?

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On 9/20/2024 6:54 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

No, he SAID he donated his salary.

Cornholer, you are such a redolent liar, always.

Does it even bother you to be such a deceitful assbag?


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's
2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus."
The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from
January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the
first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new
therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely
reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

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Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

Well he said he did, but did he actually

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Did Obama or Biden get bribes from foreign governments like tRump did? That $10Million from Egypt alone was far more than his pResidential salary.

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On 9/20/2024 8:46 AM, Baxter wrote:

Well he said he did, but did he actually

You too, lying assbag:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.


The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's
2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus."
The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from
January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the
first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new
therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely
reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

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In article <vck2og$155if$9@dont-email.me>, sss@example.de says...

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

Trump could donate all of the funds and probably get a big tax write off
for it. Just saying even though I am a Trump supporter.

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On 9/20/2024 1:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:

Maybe he should get a nap once in a while.

Rudey's made more than enough public death threats on President Trump
and even JD Vance's family... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/kami and a few dozen
other socks wrote:

(Multiple death threats against Trump) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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In article <vck1s8$152j6$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

Well he said he did, but did he actually

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Did Obama or Biden get bribes from foreign governments like tRump did? That $10Million from Egypt alone was far more than his pResidential salary.

I don't believe that.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Obama's to blame for all Trump's failures.


Still no evidence that Trump was born in the USA.

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On 9/20/2024 10:12 AM, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 07:31:22 -0400, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to charity
while in office.

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Trump didn't do it either.

Craven GODDAMNED LIAR!



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's
2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus."
The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from
January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the
first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new
therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely
reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

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citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote in news:vck2md$155if$8@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/2024 6:54 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in
news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to
charity while in office.

No, he SAID he donated his salary.

Cornholer, you are such a redolent liar, always.

Does it even bother you to be such a deceitful assbag?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1 341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will
forgo his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health
and Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that
Trump's 2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to
support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus." The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to
the office from January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said
the first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop
new therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can
safely reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

Not so fast.

"Trump reported nearly $2 million in charitable
donations in 2017 and a little over $500,000 in
charitable donations in both 2018 and 2019,
according to his tax returns and the report. He
didn't report any charitable contributions in 2020"

Either Trump waived a legitimate tax deduction
(not likely) or he did not in fact donate his salary
that year.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/02/02/fact-check- partly-false-claim-trump-tax-returns-salary-donation/11132712002/

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On 9/20/2024 11:14 AM, Bree wrote:

Still no evidence that Trump was born in the USA.

Do you need a hot Vick's colonic?

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In article <vck1s8$152j6$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in
news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to
charity while in office.

Well he said he did, but did he actually

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Did Obama or Biden get bribes from foreign governments like tRump
did? That $10Million from Egypt alone was far more than his
pResidential salary.

I don't believe that.

No one cares what you believe.






"If the Noah flood were true <which I
believe> then you can read about it
and see."
Skeeter, 3/2/23
https://tinyurl.com/mr3wf2cn

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On 9/20/2024 12:03 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote in news:vck2md$155if$8@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/2024 6:54 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in
news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to
charity while in office.

No, he SAID he donated his salary.

Cornholer, you are such a redolent liar, always.

Does it even bother you to be such a deceitful assbag?


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1
341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will
forgo his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health
and Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that
Trump's 2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to
support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat
#Coronavirus." The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to
the office from January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said
the first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop
new therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can
safely reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

Not so fast.

FUCK you, cornholer.

You craven GODDAMNED LIAR!



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's
2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus."
The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from
January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the
first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new
therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely
reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

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On 9/20/2024 12:05 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

No one cares what you believe.

You craven GODDAMNED LIAR!



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that Trump's
2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus."
The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to the office from
January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said the
first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop new
therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can safely
reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

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On 9/20/2024 1:47 PM, Ed P wrote:

His donation of President wages is less than most of us tossing a $10
bill in the Salvation Army kettle.

How much salary did O'Biden "toss in the kettle"?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-report-580000-2022-income-contribution-police-foundation-2023-04-18/

WASHINGTON, April 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden and his wife
Jill released their federal tax return on Tuesday, showing the couple
earned nearly $580,000 last year and paid an effective federal income
tax rate of 23.8%.

The Bidens also donated roughly 3.5% of their income, or $20,180, to 20 charities, including one associated with U.S. police unions.
The annual disclosure ahead of the deadline at midnight Tuesday for most Americans to file their tax returns comes before a 2024 presidential
race in which Biden is expected to seek a second four-year term.

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On 9/20/2024 11:18 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <vck2og$155if$9@dont-email.me>, sss@example.de says...

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will forgo
his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health and
Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump
designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

Trump could donate all of the funds and probably get a big tax write off
for it. Just saying even though I am a Trump supporter.

It is to impress the peasants. Sounds so good but is really a pittance.
Trump is allegedly worth in the $4 billion range. His donation of
President wages is less than most of us tossing a $10 bill in the
Salvation Army kettle.

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Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66eda579$1$1427989$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

In article <vck1s8$152j6$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in
news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to
charity while in office.

Well he said he did, but did he actually

Did Obama do that? Did Biden do that?

Did Obama or Biden get bribes from foreign governments like tRump
did? That $10Million from Egypt alone was far more than his
pResidential salary.

I don't believe that.

There's a lot of documented facts you don't believe.

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On 9/20/2024 2:10 PM, Baxter wrote:

There's a lot of documented facts you don't believe.

How much pResidential salary did O'Biden "toss in the national kettle"?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-report-580000-2022-income-contribution-police-foundation-2023-04-18/

WASHINGTON, April 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden and his wife
Jill released their federal tax return on Tuesday, showing the couple
earned nearly $580,000 last year and paid an effective federal income
tax rate of 23.8%.

The Bidens also donated roughly 3.5% of their income, or $20,180, to 20 charities, including one associated with U.S. police unions.

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On 9/19/24 10:01, citizen winston smith wrote:

The show was taped earlier than the rally.  I saw the show and it was
quite entertaining.  Trump is a fireball doing what he does and gets
by with as little as 4 hours sleep a day.  He also tells you specifics
on what he will do to reduce inflation and the like while Harris just
gives platitudes, more government spending, higher taxes and reducing
price gouging at grocery stores as if we all know profit margin is
only one to two percent.  She also blames the rich which is a Marxist
hallmark.

To your point, the DemoCrap party is the actual political residence of
the "rich", their personal old money laundering and vote-buying machine.

This is why income disparity never abates despite their claimed "working man's party" bullshite and lies.

Exactly. It is all bull shit. The rich get richer and the
poor get poorer under socialism as it did under Obama,
the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, etc..

Under Trump, it was the first recovery that started with
the middle class.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into
prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying
to lift himself up by the handle.
--Winston Churchill

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue
is the equal sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill

-T (T/Todd/Mr.T/Dude/His Resplendence)

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On 9/20/2024 3:06 PM, T wrote:

On 9/19/24 10:01, citizen winston smith wrote:

The show was taped earlier than the rally.  I saw the show and it was
quite entertaining.  Trump is a fireball doing what he does and gets
by with as little as 4 hours sleep a day.  He also tells you
specifics on what he will do to reduce inflation and the like while
Harris just gives platitudes, more government spending, higher taxes
and reducing price gouging at grocery stores as if we all know profit
margin is only one to two percent.  She also blames the rich which is
a Marxist hallmark.

To your point, the DemoCrap party is the actual political residence of
the "rich", their personal old money laundering and vote-buying machine.

This is why income disparity never abates despite their claimed
"working man's party" bullshite and lies.

Exactly.  It is all bull shit.  The rich get richer and the
poor get poorer under socialism as it did under Obama,
the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, etc..

Under Trump, it was the first recovery that started with
the middle class.

     I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into
     prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying
     to lift himself up by the handle.
         --Winston Churchill

     Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of
     ignorance and the gospel of envy.  Its inherent virtue
     is the equal sharing of misery.
        --Winston Churchill

-T  (T/Todd/Mr.T/Dude/His Resplendence)

Well stated.

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On 9/20/2024 5:06 PM, T wrote:

On 9/19/24 10:01, citizen winston smith wrote:

The show was taped earlier than the rally.  I saw the show and it was
quite entertaining.  Trump is a fireball doing what he does and gets
by with as little as 4 hours sleep a day.  He also tells you
specifics on what he will do to reduce inflation and the like while
Harris just gives platitudes, more government spending, higher taxes
and reducing price gouging at grocery stores as if we all know profit
margin is only one to two percent.  She also blames the rich which is
a Marxist hallmark.

To your point, the DemoCrap party is the actual political residence of
the "rich", their personal old money laundering and vote-buying machine.

This is why income disparity never abates despite their claimed
"working man's party" bullshite and lies.

Exactly.  It is all bull shit.  The rich get richer and the
poor get poorer under socialism as it did under Obama,
the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, etc..

Under Trump, it was the first recovery that started with
the middle class.

Middle class? Look at some facts. If you are making 400K, good for
you. I don't.


https://donnellonlaw.com/blog/which-tax-bracket-benefited-most-from-the-trump-tax-cut/

Two particular tax brackets gained the most from the 2017 Tax Cuts and
Jobs Act. The slivers of the population whose adjusted gross income was
between $200,000 and $1,000,000 gained the most from their 2018 federal
taxes.

Another data set from the I.R.S. splits taxpayers into percentiles. To
be specific, it slices U.S. taxpayers into 100 groups. The percentile
group that benefited the most? The 98th. In 2018, the 98th percentile
referred to households that had an adjusted gross income between
$359,000 and $540,000.

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On 9/20/24 16:41, Ed P wrote:

On 9/20/2024 5:06 PM, T wrote:

On 9/19/24 10:01, citizen winston smith wrote:

The show was taped earlier than the rally.  I saw the show and it
was quite entertaining.  Trump is a fireball doing what he does and
gets by with as little as 4 hours sleep a day.  He also tells you
specifics on what he will do to reduce inflation and the like while
Harris just gives platitudes, more government spending, higher taxes
and reducing price gouging at grocery stores as if we all know
profit margin is only one to two percent.  She also blames the rich
which is a Marxist hallmark.

To your point, the DemoCrap party is the actual political residence
of the "rich", their personal old money laundering and vote-buying
machine.

This is why income disparity never abates despite their claimed
"working man's party" bullshite and lies.

Exactly.  It is all bull shit.  The rich get richer and the
poor get poorer under socialism as it did under Obama,
the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, etc..

Under Trump, it was the first recovery that started with
the middle class.

Middle class?  Look at some facts.  If you are making 400K, good for
you.  I don't.

https://donnellonlaw.com/blog/which-tax-bracket-benefited-most-from-the-trump-tax-cut/

Two particular tax brackets gained the most from the 2017 Tax Cuts and
Jobs Act. The slivers of the population whose adjusted gross income was between $200,000 and $1,000,000 gained the most from their 2018 federal taxes.

Another data set from the I.R.S. splits taxpayers into percentiles. To
be specific, it slices U.S. taxpayers into 100 groups. The percentile
group that benefited the most? The 98th. In 2018, the 98th percentile referred to households that had an adjusted gross income between
$359,000 and $540,000.

Liar

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On 9/20/24 08:18, Ralph Mowery wrote:

big tax write off

A flat tax would eliminate that

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On 9/19/24 11:03, Mitchell Holman wrote:

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vchefc$jv55$2@dont-email.me:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you
have to do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the
“crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally
and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show. The guy is
like the energizer bunny.

Flying around is easy when you
own your own airliner thanks to the
millions your Daddy gave you.

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

He built upon it. He did not squander it like most
chabels.

Trump is on the record stating that he thinks he
would have only been able to won a few convenience
stores by now if not for help from his parents.

And good thing too, he create a lot of jobs for the
rest of us. And he would not be in the position he
is now to turn our failing country around

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On 9/20/24 13:10, Baxter wrote:

There's a lot of documented facts you don't believe.

The Truth Ministry is not Facts

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On 9/20/24 12:57, citizen winston smith wrote:

On 9/20/2024 1:47 PM, Ed P wrote:

His donation of President wages is less than most of us tossing a $10
bill in the Salvation Army kettle.

How much salary did O'Biden "toss in the kettle"?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-report-580000-2022-income-contribution-police-foundation-2023-04-18/

WASHINGTON, April 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden and his wife
Jill released their federal tax return on Tuesday, showing the couple
earned nearly $580,000 last year and paid an effective federal income
tax rate of 23.8%.

The Bidens also donated roughly 3.5% of their income, or $20,180, to 20 charities, including one associated with U.S. police unions.
The annual disclosure ahead of the deadline at midnight Tuesday for most Americans to file their tax returns comes before a 2024 presidential
race in which Biden is expected to seek a second four-year term.

Biden WAS the charity recipient. 10% for the Big Guy!

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T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vcl458$19ep4$4@dont-email.me:

On 9/19/24 11:03, Mitchell Holman wrote:

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vchefc$jv55$2@dont-email.me:

On 2024-09-19, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:

On 9/19/2024 8:49 AM, Baxter wrote:

Trump claims audience 'went crazy' for him at his debate with
Harris - but
there was no audience

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-

politics/trump-

audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html

"Speaking to Gutfeld, Trump later pointed to the TV ratings from the
debate.

“We had 75 million people watching, something like that, and you
have to do well,” he said.

...Trump was referring to the TV ratings when he spoke about the
“crazy” audience."

Nice try for the false demonization nutless, but NO CIGAR!

It's what the demons do.

I love how they attempt to criticize Trump for being old, feeble and
so forth yet Trump is able to fly up to NY, do a 90 plus minute rally
and then head to NYC and appear on a late night TV show. The guy is
like the energizer bunny.

Flying around is easy when you
own your own airliner thanks to the
millions your Daddy gave you.

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

He built upon it. He did not squander it like most
chabels.

6 bankruptcies.

A dozen failed businesses.

Credit so bad American banks no
longer do business with him.

Reduced to hawking Bibles.

Trump is on the record stating that he thinks he
would have only been able to won a few convenience
stores by now if not for help from his parents.

And good thing too, he create a lot of jobs for the
rest of us.

Trump creates jobs.

In China, in Mexico, in Bangledesh.......




Trump 2020 banners made in China during
"Made in America" week
July 27, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d


Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
March 8, 2016
http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu



Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
Products Made in China
August 11, 2020
https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx



Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
Nov. 28, 2017
https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f



Donald Trump: I Never Disputed That Some of My
Clothing Line Was Made in Mexico
October 19, 2015
http://tinyurl.com/jkf92lv



Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
Aug 24, 2015
http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo



Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
March 8, 2016
http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu



Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc



Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
http://tinyurl.com/gkset93

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citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote in news:vckdo7$16v15$7@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/2024 12:03 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote in
news:vck2md$155if$8@dont-email.me:

On 9/20/2024 6:54 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Kimberly Cheatle Roofing <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote in
news:17f6f072ad715d54$30637$372770$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com:

Mitchell Holman wrote:

Trump made his fortune the old
fashioned way - he inherited it.

You seem to forget that President Trump donated his salary to
charity while in office.

No, he SAID he donated his salary.

Cornholer, you are such a redolent liar, always.

Does it even bother you to be such a deceitful assbag?


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise
/1 341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will
forgo his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service,
and since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019
salary and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of
Health and Human Services. The department is working on two issues
that Trump designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary
of Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked
for "the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that
Trump's 2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to
support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat
#Coronavirus." The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to
the office from January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said
the first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop
new therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can
safely reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

Not so fast.

FUCK you, cornholer.

You craven GODDAMNED LIAR!

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1 341/take-no-salary/

Recent salary donations go to the Health Department
Trump continues to fulfill his 2015 campaign promise that he will
forgo his salary.

The Constitution doesn't allow the president to reject his earnings,
which originally forced George Washington to accept the first
presidential salary, so Trump began donating his salary quarterly in
April 2017. The first $100,000 went to the National Park Service, and
since then, he has donated to various federal departments.

Most recently, Trump donated the last two quarters of his 2019 salary
and his first quarter of his 2020 salary to the Department of Health
and Human Services. The department is working on two issues that Trump designated for the funds: the opioid crisis and COVID-19.

The Associated Press reported on Nov 26, 2019 that Trump's 2019
third-quarter salary went to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of
Health, an operating agency within HHS. The funds were earmarked for
"the ongoing fight against the opioid crisis."

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted on March 3, 2020, that
Trump's 2019 fourth-quarter salary was being donated to the HHS to
support the department's efforts to "confront, contain, and combat #Coronavirus." The tweet also featured a picture of Trump's check to
the office from January.

The 2020 first-quarter salary donation was mentioned briefly by the
press secretary at a press conference on May 22, 2020. McEnany said
the first quarter would again be going to HHS, this time to "develop
new therapies for treating and preventing COVID-19 so that we can
safely reopen."

In a tweet, Judd Deere, the deputy press secretary, confirmed that
Trump's first-quarter 2020 salary will be going to HHS for "the
development of new therapeutics to treat #COVID19 infections."

We rate this Promise Kept.

Sinse you deleted the proof you are
wrong there is nothing else to say.

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