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written in this file is true and that I saw it.
Fellow computer enthusiasts,
11-24-89

What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I attended on 11-17-89 at the
"Whole Life Expo." in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was Mr. Milton William Cooper who I
first became acquainted with through a text file I downloaded from a local computer BBS. The
file dealt with the subject of UFO's and our government's concealment of the truth about them in
such a way that it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I attended his lecture; to
learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling of some of the proper names in the
transcript which follows and allow that I have taken it as best I could, wordfor-word, from a
less than acceptable micro-cassette recording.
If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in hearing it first hand, I ask
that you please spread it as far and wide as possible. Upload it to every BBS in your reach and
please, don't change anything. Also, please give considerable thought to Mr. Cooper's
suggestions as to what we all can do to see that this information is confirmed by our
government to make them stop what they are up to.
Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper:
"For those of you who don't know who I am, I was raised in a military family. My family,
my ancestors, since they came to this country, have been government people. We have served
in the military, we have been patriots, we have fought in all the wars, we care about this
country and believe in the constitution of the United States. We know, as many people don't
know, that the Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States of America!
And that's why we've always been ready ...to do the things needed ...to preserve and protect
it."
"When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command. As a child I'd heard
stories from my father and pilots, other pilots, my father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters,
UFO's, strange craft that were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you hear that in passing,
and it's neat, and you giggle about it, and you go out and play "Space Man", and you forget it."
"When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated in alien crashed-craft
recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it interested me, but it was usually after quite a few bottles
of beer that these stories would come out, and sometimes the next morning I couldn't remember
what the heck the guy said."
"When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is where everything began to
happen for me. I had originally intended to just go from service to service and do something
that very few people have ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy ...young
man, and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting life. I volunteered for submarines, and
while on the submarine U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a transit between the Portland/Seattle area
and Pearl Harbor, which was our home port; the Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I
saw a craft, saucer-shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for those of
you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the water approximately 2 1/2
nautical miles off the port bow, which is about 45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the
submarine. It tumbled slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It appeared to be
moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical miles, but in reality it was moving pretty
fast because it came up out of the water, did a few tumbles and it was gone!" "I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell him what it was that I saw because
my Daddy didn't raise no fools and in case nobody else saw it I didn't want to be the only looney
onboard the ship. So I asked the officer of the deck to help me cover that area, and he did,
which is common for officers and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch because
they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few seconds of watching, the same
craft, or another craft exactly like it, came down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own
axis, and went into the water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer of the deck, was literally
shocked! What could I say? Seaman Dejeralimo, who was the starboard lookout, had also
witnessed this, and ensign Ball called the captain to the bridge who was followed by the chief
quartermaster who brought a 35MM camera, and we watched for between 7 and 10 minutes the
same craft, or different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It was an
incredible show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they even cared, but the craft
did not glow, they were metal, they were machines without a doubt, they were obviously
intelligently guided, they were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and
knowing what it takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was not
made on the face of this Earth. Because there's nothing that man can make, that can fly through
the air at a speed like that, tumble on its own axis, and enter the water and effectively fly
beneath the sea."
"If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard a submarine, I know there's
probably some of you in this room who have visited a submarine at one time or another, you
can readily see just without even any of the technicalities involved how difficult such a thing
would be to do. Where would it be built, that size? It was absolutely incredible. It changed my
life because then all the stories that I'd heard all my life I knew were true, and I began seeing
the world in a different light."
"It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in intelligence. I was sent to Viet
Nam. I was assigned as a patrol boat captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a
multi-million dollar patrol boat. My job was to gather intelligence from the people who lived
around the harbor and the fishermen who transited the harbor, and maintain the safety and
security of the harbor and the shipping. After about 5-months I was sent up North to the DMZ,
to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth.
We were only 3-miles South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the
Tacan river from the river mouth to Dang Ha [sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp] cutoff to
Quang Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank, gather intelligence, and to patrol
every night and maintain the safety and security of the river and the river traffic."
"It was while there that I discovered that there was a tremendous amount of UFO and alien
activity in Viet Nam. It was always reported in official messages as `enemy helicopters.' Now
any of you who know anything about the Viet Nam war know that the North Vietnamese did not
have any helicopters, especially after our first couple of air raids into North Viet Nam. Even if
they had they would not have been so foolish as to bring them over the DMZ because that would
have insured their demise. Our troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,'
enemy troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' and occasionally people
would disappear. And on one instance that I know for sure at least one entire village
disappeared one night due to alien activity. The reason they used the term `enemy helicopters'
in messages and dispatches was that in Viet Nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter
where you where. They did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking about
the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tables, and once we every 24-hours those codes
would be no good. So that's what we used. We also, because of the inability to use crypto
transmitting equipment, had to devise code words such as `enemy helicopters.'" "When I left Viet Nam I was eventually attached to the headquarters staff of the Commander
in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill
overlooking Pearl Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there, and I was specifically
attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United States
Pacific Fleet."
"It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my duties, documents were placed in
my hands that were so unbelievable and so incredible that it took me quite a while to adjust to
the fact that what I was seeing was real. Now for those of you who don't understand how I could
come to see this information let me give you a little short course in security clearance and "the
need to know" and how you get to see classified information if you're in the military or in the
government, it doesn't matter which, the rules are the same."
"Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to have clearance at the level
that the information you want to see is classified at. In this instance it was classified `Top Sec-
ret, Magic, Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is the highest security
classification in the Nation. To get that type of clearance, all you have to have is a Federal
Bureau of Investigation background check, which takes about six months and they send federal
agents to your home, to your old schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody
you put down on your security clearance forms, to all your old addresses, your neighbors,
everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing because they don't tell them what
they're checking on. They just show them their identification and start asking questions and
that's when you find out who's your friend and who's not, because a lot of people get scared and
think, `Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talkin' to him anymore.'"
"Now once you get that it's called a `B.I.' and for those of you who have received a copy of
my service record look on the first page, the DD-214 where it says `Security Clearance,' you
will see the term `B.I.' That's a `Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now at that point, you have
the clearance for everything including Top Secret and above. What determines what you get to
see is your need to know, and the job that you have determines what your need to know is."
"I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United
States Pacific Fleet, who had to know everything concerning his area of operations which was
onehalf of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and all the land masses in
between. Believe it or not, if we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy
that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at bey while we can get ourselves
together, at least historically. Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but
military commanders like to talk about it anyway."
"Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of material and information that
an area commander has to know, it's unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to
keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening, he has to make the right decisions. Because
it's almost humanly impossible for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team,
and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct information, all the time, on a 24-hour
basis. And every morning, between 8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered
everything that happened in the previous 24-hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the
next 24-hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had received since the last
briefing that he needed to know and that his staff members needed to know. Occasionally we
would get messages marked `Top Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded
in such a way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't know what the
questions were so you really didn't know what the message was all about."
"But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two documents; one called `Project
Grudge,' another one called `Operation Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of alien
involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about Germany's involvement with a
crashed-disk that they had recovered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology.
They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters want to tell you. If they had been
successful, we would not have won the war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You
cannot outfly those craft, you can't even think about it with conventional aircraft. If Germany
had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front of this podium."
"They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy [sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists, we got some hardware. The Russians also got some
documents, some scientists, and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to
capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was everything. And that occurred near
the city of Roswell, New Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Project
Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw photographs of live aliens, I
saw photographs of autopsies, internal organs, I saw photographs of the alien designated
`E.B.'[or Ebe] which was held in captivity from 1949 until June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I
saw the history of what they had been able to at that time put together, from incidents in the
1800's which involved aliens and their craft."
"I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly recovered alien craft that had
been recovered intact and undamaged, and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged,
and how that happened I have no idea. It was called `Project Redlight,' and first was conducted
from the Tonopah test range in the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially built
area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called `Area-51,' code named `Dreamland,' in the
Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist
officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it
doesn't exist. However if you go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the
boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but according to the government it
doesn't exist."
"The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until sometime in 1962 when a craft
blew up not far from the test sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state
area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened or why the craft blew up, but
they put Project Redlight on hold until a later date when the aliens supplied us with 3-craft and
personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That project is ongoing and we now have not
only alien craft that we are flying, we have craft we have built, using the captured technology,
and some of the UFO's that people report seeing in the United States, and maybe even
elsewhere, are flown by United States personnel."
"That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way beyond the limits of what we
have been told. A lot of our development technologically, since the end of World War II, has been
due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area called `Area-51' on a regular basis
...ongoing."
"When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you don't know who he is ...not too
many space people in here. Professor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists
and space commentists that ever lived. When he retired, the government gave him a special
award, there was a press conference, all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he
said, `Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, `Gentlemen, we cannot take credit for
all the technological developments that we have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and
that's where he stopped."
"One of the reporters raised his hand and said, `Professor Oberth, can you tell us what
other country helped us?'"
"He said, `It was those little guys from out in space,' and then he got down and and would
not comment any further. Now this occurred in 1959. I can go on and on but time doesn't allow
it."
"I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds of things going on all the time,
we are making rapid progress in exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people have been
coming out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have pieces of this puzzle, and are
helping us to put it together, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot of ma-
terial, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have probably, in my remembering, made some
mistakes, and I guarantee you they're minor ones, if I have."
"We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe that the Jason Society of the
Jason Scholars, the secret group existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51
names of the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the highest
security clearances in the nation, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol
rank of Rear Admiral, and are treated as such on any military installation or in any government
office. There are 6 Nobel Prize winners on that list, there are the elite of the elite of the
scientific world, they are the only ones who really know the truth about the technology today
and about the real science of physics, because the one that we're being taught all the time... If
you send your kids to college to learn physics you're wasting your money because they're
teaching them stuff that doesn't work, it's not true, it's not real. Gravity is not what we think
it is. There IS a Unified Theory! We already know what it is, it's what makes these craft work.
It's absolutely incredible what's going on."
"How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG out of Las Vegas? For those
of you who don't, I would try tuning in on any night between 10:00 PM and 1:00 AM. It's 840
on your AM dial, and the subject every night are those subjects that no other media person in
the United States will touch with a 10foot pole, every single night except Saturday night. It's
the only show that you can call in and talk to another caller, you've got 3-minutes to say
whatever you want to say as long as you don't cuss or swear or slander anyone, and every
night they're helping to expose this."
"When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at Groom Lake everybody said,
`You're nuts, there's nothing going on out at Groom Lake!' The listeners of the Billy Goodman
radio show put together an excursion and went up to Groom Lake and they all, ever since,
every night, they go up there and watch them test fly the alien craft ...every night! The first
night they had 100 people there. And 100 people saw 4 alien craft fly, doing things that no
airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they don't tell us anymore that there's nothing happening
at Groom Lake. What they tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens, it's all government
secret projects. That's okay because we'll prove that wrong too eventually, it just takes
awhile. Because where we WERE ...it's not where we're AT, and I'm really happy about that."
"Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep watching your movies, keep
watching your television commercials, your alien programs on television, read Whitley
Streeper's `Majestic' which is a part of the contingency plan called `Majestic' to test the
reaction of the population to the presence of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished my
study of Whitley Streeper's book `Majestic,' and I'm gonna tell you right now that most of the
documents in there, that he says are fiction, are real documents that came right out of Project
Grudge. It is part of the government's campaign to leak information out in ways that they can
always deny that it's real. There's only one thing wrong with the information in that book, the
stories of the characters in there I know nothing about. What I'm talking about are the supposed
government documents that he has in that book. I'm telling you tonight they're real. Those are
some of the same documents that I saw in Project Grudge back between 1970 & 1973, and
where we have wondered before, now we know that Whitley Streeper IS working for the
government. And we had a suspicion anyway because in the front of his book he states that he
got information and was helped by the research team of Moore, Shanderey, and Friedman.
William Moore has publicly admitted on July the 1st that he is an agent of the United States
Government, and we know that the others are too."
"This is gonna come out, and the reason they're doing it the way they're doing it is they
know eventually you're gonna find out that it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you so
that you're not shocked, so that there's no collapse of society as we know it, so that the
religious structure doesn't fall to pieces, so that the stock market doesn't go crazy, because
these were their original fears. Now, there's nothing we can do about the last one because it's
already happened, there will be a segment of the population that worships the aliens, even
though they're no different than us they're just from somewhere else, and they may look a
little different. They are not gods. But there are already people worshiping the aliens and they
predicted this would happen when they slapped the secret stamp all over all this stuff."
"You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been happening except for 3 things;"
[Cooper forgot to mention the 3rd thing, or was sidetracked, or included it into the 2nd thing.]
Number one, when they decided to keep it secret they needed to finance it, they couldn't tell the
public so they couldn't tell Congress. They decided to finance it with the sale, importation and
sale, of drugs. Now in the documents that I read, in Operation Majority, it specifically stated
that when George Bush was the president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil, he, in conjunction with the
CIA, organized the first large scale drug importation into this country from South and Central
America by fishing boat, to the offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from there into
the beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and law enforcement inspections of any kind.
They are still bringing in drugs, to a limited extent, in this manner. Another manner is by CIA
contract aircraft which, one of their bases of landing is Homestead [sp] Air Force Base in
Florida. We have affidavits from air controllers who have vectored the planes in, who have
made sure that they're not interfered with in any way. We have affidavits from personnel at
Homestead Air Force Base who say the planes have been met by Zeb Bush, who's George Bush's
son. We have affidavits from people who work in the Gulf of Mexico, in the offshore oil
business, that yes indeed, the drugs are coming in, at least some of them, from the offshore oil
platforms
From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?" "Pardon? ...Right! Just Say No!
Well that's what we're gonna do ladies and gentlemen with your help ...we are going to say NO,
no more! And you gotta do it, you gotta act. You either gotta act, or watch your country go
down the tubes."
"Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing that's wrong is, to keep the
secret, they killed a lot of people who tried to leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I
did it, you wouldn't be seeing me anywhere standing or walking on this Earth now. They killed
president Kennedy and during the workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show
you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority
it stated verbatim that President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of
drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal the presence
of aliens to the American people within the following year. His assassination was ordered by
the policy committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in
Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office
of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was
William Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered assassination pistol
that was specially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It fired an explosive
pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain, and that is why, in the
documents, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case,
you will find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not
find the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his brain which would have
proved conclusively that Lee Harvy Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvy Oswald
never fired a shot, he was the patsy."
Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked the obvious question, "Why
haven't YOU been assassinated?"
"If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?" Cooper posed.
"That it's the truth," several people chimed.
"I've got `em right where I want `em. If they touch me, everyone who's ever heard me talk
is gonna be absolutely enraged and is gonna know that everything I've said is true. As long as
they don't touch me there's gonna be some of you who are always gonna be wondering. But
eventually we're gonna bring enough proof out, and if you're here during the workshop you're
gonna see an awful lot of it that's gonna prove to you that it's true. It's real. And it's
happening!"
"Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly, because there's no time in 45 minutes
to get into anything very much."
Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the following day in which
tangible proofs could be seen but regrettably I was unable to attend. He then opened up the floor
to questions and answers.
A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room which in essence
asked, "What about all the people in the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the
assassination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward?
There must have been plenty."
"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered within 2-years of
the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"
"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots fired at President Kennedy,
one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that
was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The other 2-shots came from
directly behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor
Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a `can do' man,
because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the car was able to blow
off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been
virtually impossible..." another person asked.
Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For those of you who have been
listening to all these talk show hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not
done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the workshop, I will show you, on the
tape, how it was done. You will see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his
head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy and you will see it with your
own eyes."
Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the audience inquiring why no one
else had come forward with the information Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who
knew it had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't been, I'm talkin' about it
now. Bill English was talkin' about it 8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John
Lear's been talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed at him. Now there's so many
people have been talkin' about it, people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's
about time we that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are and we prove
it to them every day."
Almost all of the questions from the audience were to faint to hear. The next one dealt with
the alien technology and asked in essence, "Hasn't any one else [other than the government]
come up with the energy technology that the aliens have?" to which Mr. Cooper answered,
"There's been quite a few people who've come up with it and they've ALL been stopped, and
they'll all continue to be stopped. Because once you have it you have FREE ENERGY. Once you
have free energy they no longer have power over you. You understand? That's why they stop
it."
Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination which was examined greatly by
experts, why didn't THEY conclude that Kennedy's driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked,
"Examined by WHO greatly?", and continued, "Most of the film that you can purchase has that
segment cut out, and you can always tell it by the person running in the background, they'll run
up to here... all of a sudden they'll be down here... running. You will see in most of the clips that
you've ever seen on television, or in the movies, or that you're able to get your hands on,
you'll see William Greer start to turn like this...", then a muffled comment from the audience,
then Cooper answered, "That's because they clipped it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you
most of you, every time you've seen the clip on television, never looked at the driver anyway.
If you're really honest with yourself, and with me, you know your eyes were right on
Kennedy."
A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used in present-day military
equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's a lot of alien technology contained in the Stealth
bomber, that's right. The Stealth fighter was flying for 10-years before you even knew it
existed."
As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated, was asked of Mr. Cooper by a
woman closer to my ears, "Before you let us all out of here, there's a bunch of us here
wondering what can we all do to help bring this all out?"
A single word, "REVOLT" issued from several listeners simultaneously but Cooper responded, "Don't revolt. What you need to do is what you should have been doing all along. You
need to get involved with your government. The first thing you need to do is purchase a copy of
the Constitution, which I know that most of you don't have anywhere in your house, and if I
were to go around this room and ask each person what the Constitution says, most of you
couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from your grocery bill. And that's the truth! And
that IS your country! So if you don't know what your Constitution is you're dead already, so the
first thing you do is you get a copy of your Constitution. The second thing you do is you learn it!
The third thing you do is you start calling your senators and your representatives, and the
President of the United States and you start leaning on them, and you tell them, `Unless you
straighten up the government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I mean the whole
truth, and no more of this baloney, this's the last job you're ever gonna have, period. And I'll
do everything in my power to make sure that comes true.' And then write them, frequently,
saying the same thing. And then when they're in your area, in their area offices, take a little
delegation and go see them, and make them understand that they're gonna be living in poverty
because they're not gonna have a job anymore come election day. You see, the secret
government may own the executive branch, but you people, all of us, we own the Congress, and
the Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can impeach the entire executive branch! You
also have the right to petition the government for a redress of injuries. So you ARE powerful,
you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that that vote that you haven't
been doing every time election comes around, that vote has abdicated your power. That vote
you did not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who are subverting the Constitution
and are ruining this country."
A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for their technology?" "People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly.
Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?" "The Soviet Union and the
United States of America have been close allies since the end of World War II and have been
closely participating in the secret space program all this time. The Soviets have the same thing
we have, yes. What you see happening in the Soviet block right now is not the result of people
standing up and saying, `We want to be free.' It's the result of the international bankers saying,
`You tear down these barriers, and you meet the West half way, give your people some
freedom, the West is gonna take some freedom away from their people so that we can put
together a one-world economic system ...and have all the power. That's what's happening! If
you don't believe it, stick around and watch it!"
A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison necessary? A lot of his brain
was blown off anyway."
Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, one thing I've learned, I learned it
real good, I learned it especially good when I went to Viet Nam; just `cause you shoot someone
doesn't mean they're gonna die. And if they don't die, they're gonna be MAD. And if they've got
a gun, you're dead. So you want the first time to be the last time. So if you really want to to
kill somebody you don't play around. If you REALLY want to kill somebody ...you KILL them, you
don't play, you make sure that when you shoot them, they're dead. That way they can't hurt
you, can't hurt you at all."
Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, I was thankful however that Mr.
Cooper had a good public address system to amplify his reply, "The first moon landing was May
the 22nd, 1962... or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars. I'm sorry, May the 22nd,
1962 was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately 3-
orbits and landed on May the 22nd, 1962, was a joint United States / Russian endeavor. The
first time that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ...probably middle 50's, because
at the time when President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the
end of the decade we already had a base there."
"What about Mars?" came another quick question.
"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.
"When did that happen?"
"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was `Adam and Eve'."
"How long have you known about this?"
"Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July the 2nd, 1989, and within 3-weeks
of the time I revealed it publicly, the government, to get the American people not to listen to
me, came out and said that they planned to build a base on the moon and a colony on Mars. Now,
3-days previous to my speech, representatives from NASA said, `We can never have a colony
on Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars is a dead planet.' And it's
NOT a dead planet, they've lied to you about Mars."
"My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of the Crystic Institute, and I'd like
to know why it was that when we sent a representative down to your home, at your request,
you failed to produce any documentation to substantiate your allegations."
"In the first place it was NOT at my request, I have never contacted the Crystic Institute in
my life. I was on the Carol Hemingway Show, she contacted the Crystic institute, she told
Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had just said something about Bush and drugs on her show. HE called
ME and told me he wanted to send an investigator, in fact he told me to even help the
investigator because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne Nelson, he is a very good
gentleman, he stayed at my house for 2-days, slept overnight on my couch, I gave him
everything I had. I never told Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne
Nelson that I had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nelson, and I quote, `Wayne, if I did
have the documents I couldn't admit it and I don't know you from Adam, and I don't know Daniel
Shehan from Adam and what makes you think I would give them to you.' Who am I going to give
them to and how quick are they going to disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also
came to my house with a stack of documents this thick already substantiating the presence of
aliens and extraterrestrial craft on this planet, and they are keeping it a secret, because
they're afraid somebody'll laugh at them and they'll loose their credibility." "We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to make a name for themselves,
trying to expose some drug runners, because those are just the bag-men. The real crook is in
the White House! And you can tell THAT to Daniel Shehan!"
"Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal shot?" asked another audience
member.
"Who's she gonna tell? The Secret Service just killed her husband and they're assigned to
protect the President. Also, who had her children? The same Secret Service had her children at
the time."
"Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico destroyed and all the aliens killed?" another
young man asked.
"All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely destroyed, it was severely
damaged yes."
On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that mean that `Alternative-3' is
true?"
"Alternative-3 is absolutely true and so is `Alternative-2'." Then a man in his late 20's or
early 30's raised his hand, said something I couldn't hear, and was apparently recognized by
Mr. Cooper who asked him to take the podium and address the audience.
"What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for coming forward and saying
something. A lot of my friends out here know that I was involved in the United States Special
Forces, UFO Tracking and Research from the years 1971 to 1975. My name is Richard Murray,
I was based out of the 71st Tac Controll Flight, McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were
`Mobile Radar Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could be loaded on aircraft within
an hour and many times were taken into areas [to] set up radar. A lot of times we were set up
around Egland [sp] Air Force Base because that's where they have the `Altered Temperature
Weather Control', where they can test various aircraft for their shrinkage and their dimension
change during altered temperature. So, you know, I was told to shut up twice in 1982 and they
finally threatened my parents life so I stayed quiet, and, that's when Wendel Stevens was taken
off the streets... Just like that! And I hid for quite awhile, and decided to come back out when I
heard that you're [Cooper] of such high rank as you were, and I felt just in saying that your
credentials are true, and that what you have to say, everything you've said here today, I've
heard before behind closed doors. And you've really tied the link for me to the Kennedy killing.
And there's a few more links that have to go on with the Columbia Cartel and the money
laundering. I think there's more than one cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down
so one can maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works."
A muffled question then came from someone in the audience regarding the person referred
to as "Colonel Stevens."
"Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who was quickly asked another
question I couldn't hear to which he answered, "I sure hope to hell so, he is a wonderful man and
I give him my utmost respect and it was one of the saddest days in my life to see what
happened to him happen to him. But I don't care what they say about Wendel Stevens, in my
heart you can't discredit that man to me. I don't care who the hell you are. I won't listen to it, I
don't give a shit if he was screwin' babies. You know... that doesn't... he's not that kind of a
man, I don't care what you say, I know him personally."
The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative-2 and -3" that were referred to
briefly are, to the best of my knowledge, two government contingency plans and I don't know
which is which, to 1: Declare Martial Law and invalidate the Constitution on the premise that a
terrorist group had entered the country with a Nuclear weapon with plans to detonate it in a
major city. All dissidents would be rounded up and placed in concentration camps and the press
and media would be nationalized. All this, if the information becomes public before they want it
to or if the aliens attempt a takeover, and 2: Another contingency plan to contain or delay the
release of this information, the details of which I am probably wrong about anyway.
My own personal reaction to Milton William Cooper; Mr. Cooper is a man who appears to be
in his late fourties, of medium height and weight, and was dressed casually when I saw him. His
hairline was receding slightly and he carried himself with confidence and purpose. Bill Cooper,
as he was called by several in attendance, is not a professional speaker. His presentation lacked
the polish of repeated deliveries which all the other lectures I heard during the Expo. had, but
what it lacked in fine tuning was easily made up for in its content. Weather or not everyone in
the audience was convinced of his sincerity I do not know, but the thunderous peal of applause
which exploded as he concluded the session spoke for me and the majority of those in
attendance. I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that Bill Cooper believes everything he
said, and I'm about as skeptical as they come.
Please read the attached file written by Milton William Cooper which describes some of the
government operations, projects, and code names that pertain to the above transcript. Perhaps
from the two documents you can reach your own conclusions as to what "Alternative-2 and -3
are.
The following is the original file "OPER-MAJ.TXT" which introduced Mr. Cooper to me.
OPERATION MAJORITY
FINAL RELEASE
THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE
C - COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS
RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES. INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION.
This file contains the absolute true information regarding the alien presence on earth and
the US Government's involvement with the aliens. This file contains only the information as I
saw it and only my information. It does not contain any information from any other source.
It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this release in a manner which
would deceive the Government until someone was able to independently confirm my identity,
my employment, my service record, my intelligence background, the identity of the person to
which I gave the information in 1972, his acknowledgment of the information and when it was
given to him, that the information is correct, that I have not seen him since 1974, and that I
have not communicated with him in any form since 1976. This was necessary because this file
is my death warrant if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history.
All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2 different people who have no
connection with each other. I will only list one for obvious reasons.
Tony Pelham, Journalist
Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper)
300 West Boston
Las Vegas, Nevada 89102
The original information that I first released was not much MAJI that I was not a threat
long enough to have independent verification of the facts before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION
GARBLED] I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider myself a hero. I believe that
most of you would do the same thing if you knew the truth. I gave an oath that I would uphold
and protect the Constitution of the United States of America and I take that oath very seriously.
I am doing no more now than I did when I fought in Vietnam. I am doing my duty.
Please make copies of this file and send it to your
Congressman, your Senator, the Attorney General of the United States, and to the Supreme
Court. Send it also to everyone you know. Attach copies of the Bill English file and John Lears
file. Send anything else you may have which tends to support the information. I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California, 92632, (714) 680-
9537, do solemnly swear that the information contained in this file is true and correct to the
best of my knowledge. I swear that I saw this information in 1972 in the performance of my
duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander In Chief of the Pacific
Fleet as a Petty Officer in the US Navy. I swear that I underwent hypnotic regression in order
to make the information as accurate as possible. I swear that I can and will take a lie detector
test or any other test of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm this information. I
swear that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable and qualified
Doctor of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm this information. I will not,
however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone who is now or has ever been connected with
the Government in any capacity for obvious reasons.
The following is brief listing of everything that I personally saw and know from 1972 and
does not contain any input from any other source whatsoever.
MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the United States for communications concerning this information.
OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible for every aspect, project,
and consequence of alien presence on earth.
GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of the
United States investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts
(IAC). The project was funded by CIA confidential funds (nonappropriated) and money from the
illicit drug trade. Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it would identify
and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect
all scientific, technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and
contacts with alien life forms. This orderly file of collected information has been used to
advance the United States Space Program.
MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group. President Eisenhower commissioned a
secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts,
evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question. The society
was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members
were designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are designated by the
codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way through the members of the Jason Society.
The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12. MJ-12 is
responsible only to the President. MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. This was
done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the people of the United
States. It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our
society. The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than anything you can
imagine. MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going to
tell the public all the facts of the alien presence. He was killed by the Secret Service agent
driving his car and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view.
A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it was described as
only accessible by air. It contains full living, recreational, and other facilities for MJ-12 and
the JASON SOCIETY. It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only those with TOP SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there.
MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All information, disinformation,
and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this agency. This agency is responsible for all
disinformation and operates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence
Agency. This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its control. MAJI
is responsible only to MJ-12.
SIGMA is the project which first established communications with the aliens and is still
responsible for communications.
PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with the aliens.
This project
secured a formal treaty (illegal under the Constitution) with the aliens. The terms were that
the aliens would give us technology. In return we agreed to keep their presence on earth a
secret, not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to allow them to abduct humans and
animals. The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees on a periodic basis.
MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all alien connected material, projects,
and information. MAJIC means MAJI Controlled.
AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and their interaction
with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque
people who live in the mountainous country on the border of France and Spain and the Syrians.
GARNET is the project responsible for control of all information and documents regarding
this subject and accountability of the information and documents.
PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/ IAC information
pertaining to space telZk{k+9kR [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]
POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/ crashed craft and aliens. REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft. It is conducted at AREA 51
(DREAMLAND) in Nevada. It was aided when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly them.
The initial project was somewhat successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in
the air and the pilots were killed. The project was suspended at that time until the aliens
agreed to help us.
SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. Several flying saucer type
craft were built using conventional technology. They were unveiled to the press and flown in
front of the press. The purpose was to explain accidental sightings or disclosure of REDLIGHT
as having been the SNOWBIRD craft.
LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo
Astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien
craft described in sighting reports as MOTHER SHIPS exist there.
NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson, Colorado. It is responsible for
security for all alien or alien craft connected projects.
DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which is especially trained and
tasked with security of these projects.
JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound generating weapon. It was
said that this weapon would be effective against the alien craft and beam weapons.
EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. It is to be a missile capable
of penetrating 1000 meters of Tuff/hard packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no
operational damage. Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must not deviate
in excess of 50 meters from designated target. The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear
warhead.
ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers. A LARGE NOSED GREY
with whom we have the treaty, the GREY reported in abductee cases that works for the LARGE
NOSED GREY, a blond human like type described as the NORDIC, a red haired human like type
called the ORANGE. The home of the aliens were described as being a star in the Constellation
of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2. I cannot remember even under hypnosis which
alien belongs to which star.
EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien captured at the 1949 Roswell crash.
He died in captivity.
KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was the hostage left with us at
the first Holloman landing as a pledge that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic
agreement reached during that meeting. KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which
was completed by the guests at a later date. KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G.
Mendoza who became the expert on alien biology and medicine. KRLL later died. His information
was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H. Cril or Crill.
GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the balance of the yellow book. At
the time I saw the information there were only 3 left alive. They were called (P&#'s) Alien
Life Forms. [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]
RELIGION The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through hybridization. The papers
said that RH-blood was proof of this. They further claimed to have created all four major
religions. They showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the Government filmed.
They claim that Jesus was created by them.
ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.
Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on indian reservations and all in the four
corners area. The base near Dulce was one of them.
MURDER The documents stated that many military and government personnel had been
terminated (murdered without due process of law) when they had attempted to reveal the
secret.
CRAFT RECOVERIES The documents stated that many craft had been recovered. The early
ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, Mexico, and other places. GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have to reckon with the aliens
and the document stated that it appeared that General Doolittle was correct. ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972. The document stated that humans and
animals were being abducted and or mutilated. Many vanished without a trace. They were
taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed surgical operations, implanted a spherical
device 40 to 80 microns in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to remove it
resulted in the death of the patient. The document estimated that 1 in every 40 people had been
implanted. This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that human.
CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR SHOULD THE ALIENS ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER.
This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist group had entered the United
States with an Atomic weapon. It would be announced that the terrorists planned to detonate
the weapon in a major city. Martial Law would be declared and all persons with implants would
be rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed into concentration camps. The
press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled. Anyone attempting to resist would be
arrested or killed.
CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION This plan called for
the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of
information should anyone get close to the truth. It was selected because of the similarity of
spelling and the similarity to MJ-12. It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a
fruitless search for material which did not exist.
SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW The source of the material was an ONI counter-intelligence operation against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find
out the truth of what was really going on. The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I
worked for) were not participants in any of this. The different services and the government
conduct this type of operation against each other all the time. The result of this operation was
that the Navy cut themselves in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of some
projects.
As you can see this file is only a little different from my previous file.
Only some names
were scrambled previously to confuse the government long enough for someone to verify that
what I have said is the truth. I have added information in this file that puts me in absolute
danger. I have sent a copy of this file to people all over the country and will continue to do so.
Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe that will protect me but I doubt it.
HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT JUDGEMENT. I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching this point and for their
patience and understanding. I owe you all more than I can ever repay.
Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or if a project name is in the
wrong place. It does not matter who is working for who or what is really what. It should be
obvious by now that something sinister and terribly wrong is going on involving the government
and the UFO phenomenon. We must all band together and expose it now. I have done my part in
the best manner that I could. I can add nothing else except my testimony in Congress or a court
of law that what I saw and have written in this file is true and that I saw it. Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with this file is true and correct to the
best of my knowledge and some of it is from sources and research. You may combine the files
to get the entire picture. Throw out only that information which conflicts with that contained in
this file.
There will be no further additions or corrections to this information either now or in the
future. My file is complete and stands to be judged by history. Sometime in the future the
exact papers that I saw will surface and you will all see this exact information contained within
them.
Milton William Cooper
1/10/89

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