• MOUNT WEATHER, Virginia "special facility"

    From Ty Holder@RICKSBBS to All on Sat Feb 1 06:44:08 2025
    MOUNT WEATHER

    In the best-selling 1962 spy thriller SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff plot to overthrow the U.S. president. Their
    conspiracy centers on a place called Mount Thunder, a secret
    subterranean command post where government leaders would go in the
    event of a nuclear attack.
    On December 1, 1974, a TWA Boeing 727 jet crashed into a fog-
    shrouded mountain in northern Virginia and burned, killing all
    ninety-two persons aboard. Near the wreckage was a fenced
    government reserve identified as Mount Weather.
    Mount Weather is a real place; eighty-five acres located
    forty-five miles west of Washington and 1,725 feet above sea
    level, near the town of Bluemont, Virginia. In the event of all-
    out war, an elite of civilian and military leaders are to be taken
    to Mount Weather's cavernous underground shelter to become the
    nucleus of a postwar American society. The government has a secret
    list of those persons it plans to save.
    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) runs Mount
    Weather. When it has to talk about the place, which is rare, it
    calls it the "special facility." Its more common name comes from a
    weather station that the U.S. Department of Agriculture had
    maintained on the mountain.
    The authors of SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, Fletcher Knebel and Charles
    W. Bailey II, were Washington journalists who learned a lot about
    the then-quite-secret post. Few readers of Knebel and Bailey's
    fiction could have imagined how close to the truth it was. The
    novel gives detailed highway directions from Washington:

    ...the Chrysler wheeled onto Route 50,
    heading away from Washington....
    In the jungle of neon lights and access
    roads at Seven Corners, Corwin saw Scott bear
    right onto Route 7, the main road to Leesburg.
    The two cars moved slowly through Falls Church
    before the traffic began to thin out and speed
    up....
    At the fork west of Leesburg, Scott bore
    right on Route 9, heading toward Charles
    Town.... They began to climb toward the Blue
    Ridge, the eastern rim of the Shenandoah
    Valley....
    West of Hillboro, where the road crossed
    the Blue Ridge before dropping into the
    valley....Scott turned left. Corwin followed
    him onto a black macadam road that ran
    straight along the spine of the ridge.
    ...Because of his White House job, Corwin
    knew something about this road that few other
    Americans did. Virginia 120 appeared to be
    nothing more than a better-than-average Blue
    Ridge byway, but it ran past Mount Thunder,
    where an underground installation provided one
    of the several bases from which the President
    could run the nation in the event of a nuclear
    attack on Washington.

    Knebel and Bailey disguised the directions slightly. You
    continue on Route 7 west of Leesburg, turning left on Route 601
    just west of Bluemont. It's Virginia Route 601 that runs right up
    to the gates of Mount Weather. Residents have long known there is
    something funny about that road; it is always the first road
    cleared after a snowstorm.
    At one point, the government asked the local paper not to
    print any articles about the facility. But it is all but
    impossible to keep such a place secret. The Appalachian Trail runs
    right by Mount Weather, and hikers can get close enough to see
    signs and flashing lights. One sign reads: "All persons and
    vehicles entering hereon are liable to search. Photographing,
    making notes, drawings, maps or graphic representations of this
    area or its activities are prohibited." In the late 1960s an
    unidentified "hippie" is supposed to have stumbled upon the
    facility and sketched it from a tree. His drawing turned up in the
    QUICKSILVER TIMES, an underground newspaper in Washington.
    Residents also tell of the time a hunt club chased a fox onto
    the site and triggered an alarm. The club had to go to the main
    gate to get the dogs back.
    After the TWA crash, a spokesman "politely declined to
    comment on what Mt. Weather was used for, how many people work
    there, or how long it has been in its current use," the WASHINGTON
    POST reported. The POST published a picture of the facility,
    citing far-fetched speculation that Mount Weather's radio antennas
    may have interfered with the jet's radar and caused the disaster.
    You don't get into Mount Weather without an invitation. The
    entrance is said to be like the door to a bank vault, only
    thicker, set into a mountain made out of the toughest granite in
    the East. It is guarded around the clock.
    Mount Weather got more unsolicited publicity in 1975. Senator
    John Tunney (D-Calif.) charged that Mount Weather held dossiers on
    100,000 or more Americans. A sophisticated computer system gives
    the installation access to detailed information on the lives of
    virtually every American citizen, Tunney claimed. Mount Weather
    personnel stonewalled question after question in two Senate
    hearings.
    "I don't understand what they're trying to hide out there,"
    Douglas Lea, staff director of the Senate Subcommittee on
    Constitutional Rights, said. "Mount Weather is just closed up to
    us." Tunney complained that Mount Weather was "out of control."
    Mount Weather has been owned by the government since 1903,
    when the site was purchased by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
    Calvin Coolidge talked about building a summer White House there.
    In World War I it was an artillery range, and during the
    Depression it was a workfarm for hobos. Mount Weather as an
    alternate capital seems to have been the idea of Millard F.
    Caldwell, former governor of Florida.
    There is a fallout shelter under the East Wing of the White
    House. No one believes it offers any real protection from a
    nuclear attack on Washington, however. FEMA has elaborate plans
    for getting the president and other key officials out of
    Washington should there be a nuclear attack.
    In that event, the president is supposed to board a Boeing
    747 National Emergency Airborne Command Post ("Kneecap"). That is
    presumed to be safer than any point on the ground. The president's
    plane can be refueled in the air from other planes and may be able
    to stay airborne for as long as three days. Then its engine will
    conk out for lack of oil. That is where Mount Weather comes in.
    Government geologists selected the site because it has some
    of the most impregnable rock in the United States. The shelter was
    started in the Truman administration, and it took years to tunnel
    into the mountain.
    There is a whole chain of shelters for leaders and critical
    personnel. The Federal Relocation Arc, a system of ninety-six
    shelters for specific U.S. Government agencies, sweeps through
    North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, and
    Pennsylvania. A duplicate of the Pentagon is located at a site
    called Raven Rock in Maryland. The administrative center of the
    whole system, and the place where the top civilians would go, is
    Mount Weather.
    Mount Weather is much more than a fallout shelter; it is a
    troglodytic Levittown. In the mid-1970s Richard Pollack, a writer
    for PROGRESSIVE magazine, interviewed a number of persons who had
    been associated with Mount Weather. According to them, Mount
    Weather is an underground city with roads, sidewalks, and a
    battery-powered subway. A spring-fed artificial lake gleams in the
    fluorescent light. There are office buildings, cafeterias, and
    hospitals. Large dormitories are furnished with bunks or "hot
    cots" -- hammocks intended to be occupied in three eight-hour
    shifts. There are private apartments as well. Mount Weather has
    its own waterworks, food storage, and power plant. A "bubble-
    shaped pod" in the East Tunnel houses one of the most powerful
    computers in the world.
    The Situation Room, a circular chamber, would be a nerve
    center in the time of war. The Mount Weather folks set great store
    by visual aids and retain artists and cartographers at all times.
    A futuristic color videophone system is the basic means of
    communication within Mount Weather's subterranean world. "All
    important staff meetings were conducted via color television as
    far back as 1958, long before it was generally available to the
    public," one former staffer bragged.
    The most surprising of Pollack's revelations is that Mount
    Weather has a working back-up of U.S. Government EVEN NOW.
    Undisclosed persons there duplicate the responsibilities of our
    elected leaders, making Mount Weather an eerie doppelganger of the
    United States.
    An Office of the Presidency is ensconced in an underground
    wing known as the White House. The elected president or survivor
    closest in the chain of command would make his way there and take
    over the reins. Until then, a staffer appointed by FEMA would be
    carrying out duties said to simulate those of the real president.
    Installed at Mount Weather are nine federal departments,
    their very names ironic in the context: Agriculture, Commerce,
    Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development,
    Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, and the Treasury.
    Miniature versions of the Selective Service, the Veteran's
    Administration, the Federal Communications Commission, the Post
    Office, the Civil Service Commission, the Federal Power
    Commission, and the Federal Reserve are there, too.
    "High-level government sources, speaking under the promise of
    strict anonymity, told me that each of the federal departments
    represented at Mount Weather is headed by a single person on who
    is conferred Cabinet-level official," Pollack reported. "Protocol
    even demands that subordinates address them as 'Mr. Secretary.'
    Each of the Mount Weather 'Cabinet members' is apparently
    appointed by the White House and serves an indefinite term. Many
    of the 'secretaries' have held their positions through several administrations."
    What do all these people DO? Twice a month, Mount Weather
    stages a war game to train its personnel and explore various dire
    scenarios. Once a year they pull out all the stops and have a
    super drill in which REAL Cabinet members and White House staffers
    fly in from Washington.
    General Leslie Bray, director of the Federal Preparedness
    Agency, FEMA's predecessor, told the Senate that Mount Weather has
    extensive files on "military installations, government facilities, communications, transportation, energy and power, agriculture,
    manufacturing, wholesale and retail services, manpower, financial,
    medical and educational institutions, sanitary facilities,
    population, housing shelter, and stockpiles." Additional
    information is kept in safekeeping at other shelters in the
    Federal Relocation Arc.
    There is a body of opinion that considers Mount Weather
    obsolete. Mount Weather is a non-movable target, and a very
    strategic one if the relocation works. The "toughest granite in
    the East" may have offered some protection in Eisenhower's time,
    but multiple strikes could blast the mountain away. It was
    reported that the TWA jet crash knocked out power at Mount Weather
    for two and a half hours. What would a bomb do?
    The Soviet Union knows exactly where Mount Weather is -- and
    almost certainly knew long before the Western press did. The
    Soviets tried to buy an estate near Mount Weather as a "vacation
    retreat" for embassy employees. The State Department stopped the
    sale.


    The Survivor List

    In 1975 General Bray told the Senate that the Mount Weather
    survivor list had sixty-five hundred names on it. Who might be
    included?
    The president, of course, provide he survives his Kneecap
    command. The vice-president and Cabinet members are on the list
    because they take part in the annual dry runs. Beyond that, little
    is known and the few existing accounts conflict.
    For instance, what about Congress? General Bray said that his responsibilities included the executive branch only, not Congress
    or the Supreme Court. But in an interview in 1976, Senator Hubert
    Humphrey insisted that he had visited the shelter as vice-
    president and seen "a nice little chamber, rostrum and all," for
    postnuclear sessions of Congress.
    Furthermore, Earl Warren is said to have been invited when he
    was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Warren refused because he
    was not allowed to take his wife. The protocol for ordering
    persons to Mount Weather specifies that messages not be left with
    family members answering the phone.
    The vast majority of the persons on the list are believed to
    be ranking bureaucrats from the nine federal agencies with
    branches at Mount Weather. Pollack said he heard stories that some
    construction workers were on the list "because, the Mount Weather
    analysts reasoned, excavation work for mass graves would be needed
    immediately in the aftermath of a thermonuclear war." General Bray
    admitted that some others such as telephone company technicians
    are included.
    Each person on the survival list has an ID card with a photo.
    The card reads: THE PERSON DESCRIBED ON THIS CARD HAS
    ESSENTIAL EMERGENCY DUTIES WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
    REQUEST FULL ASSISTANCE AND UNRESTRICTED MOVEMENT BE
    AFFORDED THE PERSON TO WHOM THIS CARD IS ISSUED.

    Ty Holder
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  • From Rixter@RICKSBBS to Ty Holder on Sun Feb 2 13:14:48 2025
    MOUNT WEATHER

    In the best-selling 1962 spy thriller SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, the
    Joint Chiefs of Staff plot to overthrow the U.S. president. Their
    conspiracy centers on a place called Mount Thunder, a secret
    subterranean command post where government leaders would go in the
    event of a nuclear attack.
    On December 1, 1974, a TWA Boeing 727 jet crashed into a fog-
    shrouded mountain in northern Virginia and burned, killing all
    ninety-two persons aboard. Near the wreckage was a fenced
    government reserve identified as Mount Weather.
    Mount Weather is a real place; eighty-five acres located
    forty-five miles west of Washington and 1,725 feet above sea
    level, near the town of Bluemont, Virginia. In the event of all-
    out war, an elite of civilian and military leaders are to be taken
    to Mount Weather's cavernous underground shelter to become the
    nucleus of a postwar American society. The government has a secret
    list of those persons it plans to save.
    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) runs Mount
    Weather. When it has to talk about the place, which is rare, it
    calls it the "special facility." Its more common name comes from a
    weather station that the U.S. Department of Agriculture had
    maintained on the mountain.
    The authors of SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, Fletcher Knebel and Charles
    W. Bailey II, were Washington journalists who learned a lot about
    the then-quite-secret post. Few readers of Knebel and Bailey's
    fiction could have imagined how close to the truth it was. The
    novel gives detailed highway directions from Washington:

    ...the Chrysler wheeled onto Route 50,
    heading away from Washington....
    In the jungle of neon lights and access
    roads at Seven Corners, Corwin saw Scott bear
    right onto Route 7, the main road to Leesburg.
    The two cars moved slowly through Falls Church
    before the traffic began to thin out and speed
    up....
    At the fork west of Leesburg, Scott bore
    right on Route 9, heading toward Charles
    Town.... They began to climb toward the Blue
    Ridge, the eastern rim of the Shenandoah
    Valley....
    West of Hillboro, where the road crossed
    the Blue Ridge before dropping into the
    valley....Scott turned left. Corwin followed
    him onto a black macadam road that ran
    straight along the spine of the ridge.
    ...Because of his White House job, Corwin
    knew something about this road that few other
    Americans did. Virginia 120 appeared to be
    nothing more than a better-than-average Blue
    Ridge byway, but it ran past Mount Thunder,
    where an underground installation provided one
    of the several bases from which the President
    could run the nation in the event of a nuclear
    attack on Washington.

    Knebel and Bailey disguised the directions slightly. You
    continue on Route 7 west of Leesburg, turning left on Route 601
    just west of Bluemont. It's Virginia Route 601 that runs right up
    to the gates of Mount Weather. Residents have long known there is
    something funny about that road; it is always the first road
    cleared after a snowstorm.
    At one point, the government asked the local paper not to
    print any articles about the facility. But it is all but
    impossible to keep such a place secret. The Appalachian Trail runs
    right by Mount Weather, and hikers can get close enough to see
    signs and flashing lights. One sign reads: "All persons and
    vehicles entering hereon are liable to search. Photographing,
    making notes, drawings, maps or graphic representations of this
    area or its activities are prohibited." In the late 1960s an
    unidentified "hippie" is supposed to have stumbled upon the
    facility and sketched it from a tree. His drawing turned up in the QUICKSILVER TIMES, an underground newspaper in Washington.
    Residents also tell of the time a hunt club chased a fox onto
    the site and triggered an alarm. The club had to go to the main
    gate to get the dogs back.
    After the TWA crash, a spokesman "politely declined to
    comment on what Mt. Weather was used for, how many people work
    there, or how long it has been in its current use," the WASHINGTON
    POST reported. The POST published a picture of the facility,
    citing far-fetched speculation that Mount Weather's radio antennas
    may have interfered with the jet's radar and caused the disaster.
    You don't get into Mount Weather without an invitation. The
    entrance is said to be like the door to a bank vault, only
    thicker, set into a mountain made out of the toughest granite in
    the East. It is guarded around the clock.
    Mount Weather got more unsolicited publicity in 1975. Senator
    John Tunney (D-Calif.) charged that Mount Weather held dossiers on
    100,000 or more Americans. A sophisticated computer system gives
    the installation access to detailed information on the lives of
    virtually every American citizen, Tunney claimed. Mount Weather
    personnel stonewalled question after question in two Senate
    hearings.
    "I don't understand what they're trying to hide out there,"
    Douglas Lea, staff director of the Senate Subcommittee on
    Constitutional Rights, said. "Mount Weather is just closed up to
    us." Tunney complained that Mount Weather was "out of control."
    Mount Weather has been owned by the government since 1903,
    when the site was purchased by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
    Calvin Coolidge talked about building a summer White House there.
    In World War I it was an artillery range, and during the
    Depression it was a workfarm for hobos. Mount Weather as an
    alternate capital seems to have been the idea of Millard F.
    Caldwell, former governor of Florida.
    There is a fallout shelter under the East Wing of the White
    House. No one believes it offers any real protection from a
    nuclear attack on Washington, however. FEMA has elaborate plans
    for getting the president and other key officials out of
    Washington should there be a nuclear attack.
    In that event, the president is supposed to board a Boeing
    747 National Emergency Airborne Command Post ("Kneecap"). That is
    presumed to be safer than any point on the ground. The president's
    plane can be refueled in the air from other planes and may be able
    to stay airborne for as long as three days. Then its engine will
    conk out for lack of oil. That is where Mount Weather comes in.
    Government geologists selected the site because it has some
    of the most impregnable rock in the United States. The shelter was
    started in the Truman administration, and it took years to tunnel
    into the mountain.
    There is a whole chain of shelters for leaders and critical
    personnel. The Federal Relocation Arc, a system of ninety-six
    shelters for specific U.S. Government agencies, sweeps through
    North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, and
    Pennsylvania. A duplicate of the Pentagon is located at a site
    called Raven Rock in Maryland. The administrative center of the
    whole system, and the place where the top civilians would go, is
    Mount Weather.
    Mount Weather is much more than a fallout shelter; it is a
    troglodytic Levittown. In the mid-1970s Richard Pollack, a writer
    for PROGRESSIVE magazine, interviewed a number of persons who had
    been associated with Mount Weather. According to them, Mount
    Weather is an underground city with roads, sidewalks, and a
    battery-powered subway. A spring-fed artificial lake gleams in the fluorescent light. There are office buildings, cafeterias, and
    hospitals. Large dormitories are furnished with bunks or "hot
    cots" -- hammocks intended to be occupied in three eight-hour
    shifts. There are private apartments as well. Mount Weather has
    its own waterworks, food storage, and power plant. A "bubble-
    shaped pod" in the East Tunnel houses one of the most powerful
    computers in the world.
    The Situation Room, a circular chamber, would be a nerve
    center in the time of war. The Mount Weather folks set great store
    by visual aids and retain artists and cartographers at all times.
    A futuristic color videophone system is the basic means of
    communication within Mount Weather's subterranean world. "All
    important staff meetings were conducted via color television as
    far back as 1958, long before it was generally available to the
    public," one former staffer bragged.
    The most surprising of Pollack's revelations is that Mount
    Weather has a working back-up of U.S. Government EVEN NOW.
    Undisclosed persons there duplicate the responsibilities of our
    elected leaders, making Mount Weather an eerie doppelganger of the
    United States.
    An Office of the Presidency is ensconced in an underground
    wing known as the White House. The elected president or survivor
    closest in the chain of command would make his way there and take
    over the reins. Until then, a staffer appointed by FEMA would be
    carrying out duties said to simulate those of the real president.
    Installed at Mount Weather are nine federal departments,
    their very names ironic in the context: Agriculture, Commerce,
    Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development,
    Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, and the Treasury.
    Miniature versions of the Selective Service, the Veteran's
    Administration, the Federal Communications Commission, the Post
    Office, the Civil Service Commission, the Federal Power
    Commission, and the Federal Reserve are there, too.
    "High-level government sources, speaking under the promise of
    strict anonymity, told me that each of the federal departments
    represented at Mount Weather is headed by a single person on who
    is conferred Cabinet-level official," Pollack reported. "Protocol
    even demands that subordinates address them as 'Mr. Secretary.'
    Each of the Mount Weather 'Cabinet members' is apparently
    appointed by the White House and serves an indefinite term. Many
    of the 'secretaries' have held their positions through several administrations."
    What do all these people DO? Twice a month, Mount Weather
    stages a war game to train its personnel and explore various dire
    scenarios. Once a year they pull out all the stops and have a
    super drill in which REAL Cabinet members and White House staffers
    fly in from Washington.
    General Leslie Bray, director of the Federal Preparedness
    Agency, FEMA's predecessor, told the Senate that Mount Weather has
    extensive files on "military installations, government facilities, communications, transportation, energy and power, agriculture, manufacturing, wholesale and retail services, manpower, financial,
    medical and educational institutions, sanitary facilities,
    population, housing shelter, and stockpiles." Additional
    information is kept in safekeeping at other shelters in the
    Federal Relocation Arc.
    There is a body of opinion that considers Mount Weather
    obsolete. Mount Weather is a non-movable target, and a very
    strategic one if the relocation works. The "toughest granite in
    the East" may have offered some protection in Eisenhower's time,
    but multiple strikes could blast the mountain away. It was
    reported that the TWA jet crash knocked out power at Mount Weather
    for two and a half hours. What would a bomb do?
    The Soviet Union knows exactly where Mount Weather is -- and
    almost certainly knew long before the Western press did. The
    Soviets tried to buy an estate near Mount Weather as a "vacation
    retreat" for embassy employees. The State Department stopped the
    sale.

    The Survivor List

    In 1975 General Bray told the Senate that the Mount Weather
    survivor list had sixty-five hundred names on it. Who might be
    included?
    The president, of course, provide he survives his Kneecap
    command. The vice-president and Cabinet members are on the list
    because they take part in the annual dry runs. Beyond that, little
    is known and the few existing accounts conflict.
    For instance, what about Congress? General Bray said that his responsibilities included the executive branch only, not Congress
    or the Supreme Court. But in an interview in 1976, Senator Hubert
    Humphrey insisted that he had visited the shelter as vice-
    president and seen "a nice little chamber, rostrum and all," for
    postnuclear sessions of Congress.
    Furthermore, Earl Warren is said to have been invited when he
    was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Warren refused because he
    was not allowed to take his wife. The protocol for ordering
    persons to Mount Weather specifies that messages not be left with
    family members answering the phone.
    The vast majority of the persons on the list are believed to
    be ranking bureaucrats from the nine federal agencies with
    branches at Mount Weather. Pollack said he heard stories that some construction workers were on the list "because, the Mount Weather
    analysts reasoned, excavation work for mass graves would be needed immediately in the aftermath of a thermonuclear war." General Bray
    admitted that some others such as telephone company technicians
    are included.
    Each person on the survival list has an ID card with a photo.
    The card reads: THE PERSON DESCRIBED ON THIS CARD HAS
    ESSENTIAL EMERGENCY DUTIES WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
    REQUEST FULL ASSISTANCE AND UNRESTRICTED MOVEMENT BE
    AFFORDED THE PERSON TO WHOM THIS CARD IS ISSUED.

    Ty Holder
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    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080


    I think they give tours of parts of the facility these days. I have seen this featured on a tv show. The door is incredibly thick. Most people that live around the area know of it.

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