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    Note: The following file was originally picked up from the Catholic
    Information Network (CIN #1) in San Francisco (415-387-3251) PCP

    Although I've had this file for sometime, I have just recently
    deemed it appropriate to upload this to ParaNet in light of a
    number of references to Fatima and the "3rd" Secret" in certain
    UFO related material. In particular, I've seen this subject
    referenced in the "Krill" files and in msg threads both on
    ParaNet and in the Compuserve Paranormal Issues Forum. Some feel
    that it is related, at least in part, to some element of the UFO
    phenomenon. Personally, I feel it relates to some "end time"
    event which could lie over the not so distant horizon. Although
    much of the speculation surrounding the 3rd Secret of Fatima
    seems to indicate some kind of earthly catastrophe, its my own
    feeling that it also has an explicit political dimension to it,
    most probably in relation to the Soviet Union.



    From *The Ratzinger Report*1, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger with Vittorio
    Messori (Ignatius Press 1985):

    Fatima and environs

    One of the four sections of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the
    Faith (the so-called disciplinary section) is entrusted with the task
    of judging Marian apparitions.

    I ask: "Cardinal Ratzinger, have you read the so-called 'third secret
    of Fatima', which Sister Lucia, the only survivor of the group of
    those who beheld the apparition, forwarded to Pope John XXIII, and
    which the Pope, after he had examined it, passed on to your
    predecessor, Cardinal Ottaviani, ordering him to deposit it in the
    archives of the Holy Office?"

    The reply is immediate and dry: "Yes, I have read it."

    Undenied versions are circulating in the world, I continue, which
    describe the contents of that "secret" as disquieting, apocalyptic, as
    warning of terrible sufferings. John Paul II himself, in his personal
    visit to Germany, seemed to confirm (albeit with prudent
    circumlocutions, privately, to a select group) the undeniably
    disconcerting contents of that text. Before him, Paul VI, during his pilgrimage to Fatima, also seems to have alluded to the "apocalyptic"
    themes of the "secret". Why was it never decided to make it public,
    if only to counter rash speculations?

    "If this decision has not yet been made", he answers, "it is not
    because the Popes want to hide something terrible."

    Then there is "something terrible" in Sister Lucia's manuscript, I
    insist?

    "If that were so", he replies, avoiding going further, "that after all
    would only confirm the part of the message of Fatima already known. A
    stern warning has been launched from that place that is directed
    against the prevailing frivolity, a summons to the seriousness of
    life, of history, to the perils that threaten humanity. It is that
    which Jesus himself recalls very frequently: '... Unless you repent
    you will all perish...' (Lk 13:3). Conversion--and Fatima fully
    recalls it to mind--is a constant demand of Christian life. We should
    already know that from the whole of sacred Scripture."

    So there will be no publication, at least for now?

    "The Holy Father deems that it would add nothing to what a Christian
    must know from Revelation and also from the Marian apparitions
    approved by the Church in their known contents, which only reconfirmed
    the urgency of penance, conversion, forgiveness, fasting. To publish
    the 'third secret' would mean exposing the Church to the danger of sensationalism, exploitation of the content."

    Perhaps also political implications, I venture, since it seems that
    here, also, as in the two other "secrets", Russia is mentioned?

    At this point, however, the Cardinal declares that he is not in a
    position to go further into the matter and firmly refuses to discuss
    other particulars. On the other hand, at the time of our interview,
    the Pope proceeded to reconsecrate the world (with a particular
    mention of Eastern Europe) to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, precisely
    in accordance with the exhortation of the Virgin of Fatima, and the
    same John Paul II, wounded by his would-be assassin, on May 13--
    anniversary of the first apparition in the Portuguese locality--went
    to Fatima in order to thank Mary, "whose hand (he said) had
    miraculously guided the bullet", and seemed to refer to the
    forewarnings that had been transmitted through a group of children to
    humanity and that seemed to refer also to the person of the Pontiff.

    On the same theme, it is well known that for years, now, a village in Yugoslavia, Medjugorje, is at the center of world attention because of
    reported "apparitions" which--whether true or not--have already drawn
    millions of pilgrims. But they have also provoked deplorable
    conflicts between the Franciscans who govern the parish and the bishop
    of the local diocese. Is a clarifying statement of the Congregation
    for the Doctrine of the Faith, the highest court in this matter, to be expected, with, of course, the approval of the Pope, which is
    indispensable for each one of its documents?

    He replies: "In this area, more than ever, patience is the
    fundamental principle of the policy of our Congregation. No
    apparition is indispensable to the faith; Revelation terminated with
    Jesus Christ. He himself is the Revelation. But we certainly cannot
    prevent God from speaking to our time through simple persons and also
    through extraordinary signs that point to the insufficiency of the
    cultures stamped by rationalism and positivism that dominate us. The apparitions that the Church has officially approved--especially
    Lourdes and Fatima--have their precise place in the development of the
    life of the Church in the last century. They show, among other
    things, that Revelation--still unique, concluded and therefore unsurpassable--is not yet a dead thing but something alive and vital. Moreover--prescinding Medjugorje, on which I cannot express a judgment
    since the case is still being examined by the Congregation--one of the
    signs of our times is that the announcements of 'Marian apparitions'
    are multiplying all over the world. For example, reports are arriving
    from Africa and from other continents at the section of the
    Congregation that is competent to deal with such reports."

    But, I ask, besides the traditional element of patience and prudence,
    on what criteria does the Congregation base itself for a judgment, in
    the face of the multiplication of these facts?

    "One of our criteria", he says, "is to separate the aspect of the true
    or presumed 'supernaturality' of the apparition from that of its
    spiritual fruits. The pilgrimages of ancient Christianity were often concentrated on places with respect to which our modern critical
    spirit would be horrified as to the 'scientific truth' of the
    tradition bound up with them. This does not detract from the fact
    that those pilgrimages were fruitful, beneficial, rich in blessings
    and important for the life of the Christian people. The problem is
    not so much that of modern hypercriticism (which ends up later,
    moreover, in a form of new credulity), but it is that of the
    evaluation of the vitality and of the orthodoxy of the religious life
    that is developing around these places."

    Jim Singleton
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