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Hi Ed,
On <Sun, 14 Sep 24>, you wrote me:
So they spy on everyone with a radio license? Or just you because you're special?
I suppose if you have all that information the FBI wants they would want
to earase it.
Shawn
P.S. Please seek profesional mental health help.
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I think that Windows would recognize where the internet connection is
coming from and route the traffic to the dongle, where Firefox and Tbird would be none-the-wiser and use what Windows tells them to.
Although I don't know exactly how you have the hub set up to share between multiple PCs, I suspect that each PC would need their own USB wi-fi dongle.
Mike
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Through the wi-fi? I would guess if they ever tried that, the magnetic
force would be great enough to erase the HDDs regardless of how the PC is connected to the Internet. :D
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What's bothering me about Wi-Fi is that I never read anything about how
to get Firefox and Thunderbird to send their Output to USB instead of to
a Router to get to the Internet .
Only one of my computers could be used at a time unless there is a way that a USB Hub could have both of my pc's connect to the USB Wi-Fi
dongle.
On 14 Sep 2024 at 10:33a, Ed Vance pondered and said...
Oh dear. I'm afraid that this is just not how things work.
The short of it is that the Internet is conceptually modeled
as layers; applications like Firefox and Thunderbird "speak" application-level protocols (like HTTP) over transport- and
session-layer protocols (like TCP and SSL/TLS, respectively).
Transport layer protocols like TCP are _usually_ implemented
in the operating system, though there's no physical law of
the universe that requires that. Anyway, TCP then layers on
top of IP, which in turn layers on top of a link-layer
protocol like Ethernet, which layers on top of a physical
layer protocol like 1000Base-T over twisted pair, or 802.11
"WiFi" over an RF link. And that's not counting how any
of the devices that implement physical and link-layer protocols
actually connect to the computer; common modern standards
include PCIe (for high speed devices) and USB (for fast, but
perhaps not _as_ fast, devices).
All of this is to say that the layers between a program like
Firefox and the decision between which link-layer interface
to communicate the traffic it sends and receives on, are designed
for mutual isolation: Firefox doesn't know, or care, what
interface the OS choses to data it sends on; it just seems a
virtual stream abstraction. Similarly, the OS doesn't care
which stream traffic transiting a USB Ethernet interface, WiFi,
Bluetooth, or whatever is associated with; that's all handled
at a higher layer (first IP and then TCP or UDP or whatever).
If you have multiple computers connected to an internal IP
network, they will all have to have unique IP addresses and
routes in order to communicate with the Internet at large.
Although it wasn't initially designed this way, if you are
using IPv4 (which you almost certainly are) for most consumer
situations this means you need some sort of router at the edge
of your home network that will do Network Address Translation,
allowing multiple _internal_ devices to share a single _external_
address (more properly, this is usually done with Port
Network Address Translation, or PNAT). Fortunately, most
commercially available consumer routers have this built in and
do it automatically.
Hope that helps a little bit.
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I've had the same thought, and have said basically the same thing, and there are usually people who argue that a phone these days is more than just a phone, and that people actually use the 'phone' feature a lot
less than they used to.
WHEW!
Thanks, I knew bits of those things but You wrote things in details that
I never got around to learning.
Thanks Again.
Because why would I make a call?
But I've never liked talking over the phone, and barely remember doing so as a child, at this point.
Because why would I make a call?Sometimes you have to.. Sometimes, things like making a doctor appointment, contacting customer service to resolve an issue, etc.
require calling and talking to someone.
Which I'm sure some businesses do intentionally, though I do try to
avoid those businesses.
Tiny wrote to Adept <=-
I just wanted a quote on insurance, I filled in a questionaire online,
in good faith I even provided correct information just in case I was interested in the quote.
All I can say is what a mistake, within 3 mins my phone was ringing and pushy sales people started in. I was honest and told the first one I wasn't interested and their price was not competive with my existing
plan.
Same thing - calls within minutes, pushy annoying sales people trying
to get me to commit NOW.
And I got a hell of a deal, right at the bottom of the interest rates before the rates went up. Unfortunately for him, I won't be
refinancing *this* loan!