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On 05 May 2025 at 12:20p, Nightfox pondered and said...
Re: Re: New to this
By: Gryphon to boraxman on Tue May 06 2025 06:17 am
I wish there were a way to updoot this message.
What is "updoot"?
It's slang for a reddit-style upvote.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
The problem is the PEOPLE. Real estate owners see their holdings as
sacrosanct and always on the rise. Building affordable housing could
lower your resale value. Those same people lobby for hurdles to
affordable housing in government.
In many places, there's available rentals - but the inflated real
estate market has landlords and home owners alike is keeping prices
high.
be angry and argue my review is trash. **And that is fine**. Talking only to people you agree with is boring after a while and you don't ge
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
Bob Worm wrote to Alonzo <=-
Re: Re: New to this
By: Alonzo to Jimmy Anderson on Tue May 13 2025 05:34:52
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
That sounds cool and all but have you ever tried just shouting over everyone else's opinions and calling them mean names if they still
don't agree with you?
I am joking, of course... but these days it's hard to tell.
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to Bob Worm on Wed May 14 2025 10:19 am
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.
Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid;
that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
It's _mostly_ fine if you read it backwards.
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Of course not. The point of the terms is just to present an air of moral supremacy. They're not meant to be accurate, just manipulative.
Sorry, tapped wrong place on this phone
Case of fat finger? :)
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Thank you.I am new to this FSX. How is everyone?
Meg
The horrors persist, but so do I.
Welcome to the net!
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to Nightfox on Wed May 14 2025 21:59:47
Of course not. The point of the terms is just to present an air of mor supremacy. They're not meant to be accurate, just manipulative.
Errr.... every single time?
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid;
that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I've also heard of the term "misophonia", which is a condition some people have where some noises can trigger feelings of irritation, anger, anxiety, etc.. Often it could be noises like people popping gum, chewing food with their mouth open, or sometimes other random noises.
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid; that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I've also heard of the term "misophonia", which is a condition some people
have where some noises can trigger feelings of irritation, anger, anxiety,
etc.. Often it could be noises like people popping gum, chewing food with
their mouth open, or sometimes other random noises.
I started to write a joke remark about how all of those noises are irritating so maybe I have misophonia... Then I thought about how the wife regularly comments that I'm "funny about noise" so maybe there's something to that?
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstancesSometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with b that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I suspect they used -phobia because people who have a strong dislike for things often do so out of fear (i.e. spiders or snakes). I still believe there are a lot of people who have -phobias towards certain groups of people but, yes, these days it is also very obvious that some people are just hateful.
Alonzo wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-ge
be angry and argue my review is trash. **And that is fine**. Talking only to people you agree with is boring after a while and you don't
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking an opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
Bob Worm wrote to Nightfox <=-
When I'm under the weather I really can't stand loud noise and get
quite cranky. My mother in law - who is great, by the way - speaks so loudly that I sometimes have to leave the room, and that's often the
first warning that I'm coming down with something :(
He started speaking backwards mid message. Maybe he is a witch!!! :D
He started speaking backwards mid message. Maybe he is a witch!!! :D
Let's wait and see if he turns anyone into a newt.. ─── Nightfox Shut up
Also, pretty much all the text in your message was very dark (the "high intensity black" attribute, I think), so it was a bit difficult to read..
They're tilting at windmills here, seeing all this bigotry and hate which just
isn't there.
that. Rents are no different. Rental prices are $1800+ a month - on places that I very well remember used to be $250 a month.
Telling young people to just "watch their finances" and such isn't the solution. I know plenty of young folks who work and sleep, spend next to nothing on outside activities, and are still scrimping. How many jobs should they get to afford to eat and keep the rain off their heads?
My son is graduating college and looking to strike out on his own.
Against my advice, he's living in a wannabe apartment on campus. Since it's campus housing, he's going to have to move out and find a job. And try to get housing without a work history. He's going to have a couple
of roommates, for sure.
hollowone wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Wasn't that normal in bigger cities in US also in the 90s? I recall Friends tv show telling that story as quite standard in NYC. SF has no reason to be different.
Now, the $600 apartment is $2800, and the $1000 rental is worth $1.7 million.
Still, if I had 5000+ a month in my personal earnings and basically two salaries if a life partner is considered.. wouldn't I be just fine?
Yes, and no. 2 tech people making $5K/month would be just fine and have
a life with lots of dining out, or day care for a kid. The problem is
that the market adjusts, and the plumber, parking lot attendant, and artist can't afford to live in the city any more. So, a vibrant city
full of artisans, craftsmen, trades, waiters and baristas with multi-generational families becomes a tech haven. San Francisco even has
a tech cabal who want to re-write the city to fit their idea of a tech utopia. It was just fine before they arrived. --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32
hollowone wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Well, I see. The way it works in my town is that with high-waged folks prices went up... including plumbing and whatever so everybody can
afford his minimum.. I assumed this is how capitalism works.
I'd love pay half of the price for some of the fixes or learn how to do
it myself. Even if I do... I don't have time for that as my hour needs
to be well spent to maximize profit and then free time. So I actually
am OK to pay twice what I was used to couple of years ago for home services, assuming this keeps the folks in available..
Art and craft is a different story. But I also think a lot of that
moved to the internet eventually and for good art or craft I am able to drive and fly far.
I'd miss pubs and restaurants but with my age and family orientated lifestyle I don't care that much anymore.
I like my backyard and deck and swimming pool and you name it.. and
also nature so for that sake I actually moved out from big city. More
to find silence than to afford better. Many also do that if remote
working is an option.
Then going to store to have a few crates of beer, meat and whatever supplies and then back home and spending time with friends in the
backyard became a thing.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to hollowone <=-
One nice thing about San Francisco was being able to have the best of
both worlds. I lived out on the west side of the city, a block from
Golden Gate Park and a few blocks from the beach, with a house and a
back yard. It was quiet in the Avenues, but you were 20 minutes from downtown. Coming home, you could grab a drink, walk to the beach and
watch the sun go down over the ocean.
One nice thing about San Francisco was being able to have the best of
both worlds. I lived out on the west side of the city, a block from
Golden Gate Park and a few blocks from the beach, with a house and a
back yard. It was quiet in the Avenues, but you were 20 minutes from downtown. Coming home, you could grab a drink, walk to the beach and
watch the sun go down over the ocean.
hollowone wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
back yard. It was quiet in the Avenues, but you were 20 minutes from downtown. Coming home, you could grab a drink, walk to the beach and
watch the sun go down over the ocean.
Sounds like days long gone...
The outer Sunset area is still (relatively) affordable, and has lots of young people around - San Francisco State University is right down the road. The beach is still there, the area is relatively franchise-resistant, and the coffee at Java Beach still rocks.
j0hnny a1pha wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The outer Sunset area is still (relatively) affordable, and has lots of young people around - San Francisco State University is right down the road. The beach is still there, the area is relatively franchise-resistant, and the coffee at Java Beach still rocks.
Bay Area guy, too! I agree on Sunset (and Richmond) areas being a good places to be... Young families, yards, etc. My son is looking for a
place in SF right now but the invetory is TIGHT!
I read that housing/rental prices in SF took a hit post-Covid -- like
15% down from its peak -- as tech co's did downsizing, relocating and
many remote startup employess ditched the city. Now, Private Equity companies are coming in and making things worse, buying stuff up.
Prices are creeping back back up because inventory is so low ("recovery?"). The median home price is $1.4M... That's like 2018
prices at their peak, but still way too high unless you just cashed out your AI startup stock, hah.
Downtown is still pretty dead, edges are very rough. I really like
Corona Heights, near the Castro.
SF is a great city IMHO and it's making a come-back. I'd still be
living there if it weren't for the schools being pretty bad when we
left for the East Bay (warmer weather and less fog, too).
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