• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion

    From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 31 16:01:00 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 311600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Thu Oct 31 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 31 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Only changes was a slight westward expansion of the Marginal risk
    area near the Gulf of Mexico in far southeast Texas in response to
    radar trends late this morning. There has been an area of enhanced
    moisture flux convergence from far eastern Texas into northwestern
    Louisiana during the morning which has led to some locally=20
    enhanced rainfall rates with MRMS showing 3-hour totals at or above
    2 inches in eastern Texas...with 3+ inches depicted in Fort Bend
    and Brazoria counties. Showers and thunderstorms were already
    anticipated in the Lower Mississippi Valley as mid- and upper-level
    height falls and an associated surface cold front moves across the
    area...with the potential for localized heavier rainfall rates
    already anticipated from slow moving super cells...so the expansion
    of the Marginal Risk area does not represent a significant shift in
    forecast reasoning but merely accounting for short term conditions.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    As an upper-level trough advances through the Upper Midwest an
    attendant cold front will makes its way from the Southern Plains
    into the Lower and Middle Mississippi Valley. The front will slow
    and/or stall most significantly into the Lower MS Valley, where
    instability is expected to be maximized (while the flow and
    associated forcing weakens farther north). Convection is expected
    to be ongoing along and ahead of the cold front through morning,
    but should increase in coverage and intensity during the afternoon
    hours (while locally slowing the most from the Mid-South into
    portions of the Deep South and Central Gulf Coast.With PWs nearing
    2" (well above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding climatology)
    with storm motions locally as slow as 5-10 kts, the 00z HREF 40-km
    neighborhood probabilities for 3"/3-hr reach as high as 20-40%.
    While localized totals of only 1-2" are generally expected, the
    HREF PMM QPF indicates the potential for isolated 3-4" totals (in
    as little as 2-3 hours, nearing associated FFG thresholds).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND ADJACENT SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    Another shortwave trough will move inland across the West on Friday
    as ridging stays in place over much of the Southeastern US. Warm
    Gulf moisture will be advecting northward into the southern High
    Plains ahead of the trough. Meanwhile, the strongest instability
    (1000+ J/kg of SB CAPE) will likely be in place over West Texas
    and eastern New Mexico. Areal coverage of thunderstorms is forecast
    to increase during the overnight hours (after 00z) into portions
    of southeastern NM and the TX Panhandle, propagating eastward into
    portions of western OK Oklahoma and far southern Kansas. Maintained
    the Marginal Risk from prior cycles, given PWs increasing to 1.0"+
    (above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding climatology). While
    most CAMs still do not reach out to the timeframe of interest, the
    ones that do (the FV3 and CMCreg) suggest the potential for
    localized 3"+ totals, as well as support from the downscaled ECMWF.
    Decided to maintain the Marginal for this cycle, given considerable
    uncertainty and dry antecedent soil conditions.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A much more potent longwave trough is progged to dig into the
    Southwest US on Day 2, as leading shortwave impulses are expected
    to result in much more organized convection over much of the
    Southern Plains. Continued southerly low-level flow ahead of the
    impulses should result in PWs pushing 2" (near record levels, per
    SPC sounding climatology) with ample forcing (left exit region of
    100+ kt subtropical jet streak) for organizing convection. The WPC
    QPF calls for areal average totals of 2-3", which is still well
    below the 90th percentile of the PQPF (~4-5"). Given strong
    ensemble support, the inherited Slight Risk was expanded a bit
    (with the expectation of verification on the higher-end of the
    Slight Risk probability spectrum from Northwest TX/Big Country into south-central OK). Given very dry antecedent conditions, a Slight
    Risk was deemed sufficient (but will need to be reevaluated for
    upgrade potential with future updates).

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!498KYsnzp1R1HOg4pM5wd0Izh5EEqCKuJ1tleuhHzAib= coHm93f5eHyaJAEGD4YPlwkBeB2WbJcSIviKokxu78zP7dI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!498KYsnzp1R1HOg4pM5wd0Izh5EEqCKuJ1tleuhHzAib= coHm93f5eHyaJAEGD4YPlwkBeB2WbJcSIviKokxuDEKGQP4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!498KYsnzp1R1HOg4pM5wd0Izh5EEqCKuJ1tleuhHzAib= coHm93f5eHyaJAEGD4YPlwkBeB2WbJcSIviKokxuav2emzQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Oct 31 20:21:16 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 312020
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    420 PM EDT Thu Oct 31 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Oct 31 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Only changes was a slight westward expansion of the Marginal risk
    area near the Gulf of Mexico in far southeast Texas in response to
    radar trends late this morning. There has been an area of enhanced
    moisture flux convergence from far eastern Texas into northwestern
    Louisiana during the morning which has led to some locally
    enhanced rainfall rates with MRMS showing 3-hour totals at or above
    2 inches in eastern Texas...with 3+ inches depicted in Fort Bend
    and Brazoria counties. Showers and thunderstorms were already
    anticipated in the Lower Mississippi Valley as mid- and upper-level
    height falls and an associated surface cold front moves across the
    area...with the potential for localized heavier rainfall rates
    already anticipated from slow moving super cells...so the expansion
    of the Marginal Risk area does not represent a significant shift in
    forecast reasoning but merely accounting for short term conditions.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    As an upper-level trough advances through the Upper Midwest an
    attendant cold front will makes its way from the Southern Plains
    into the Lower and Middle Mississippi Valley. The front will slow
    and/or stall most significantly into the Lower MS Valley, where
    instability is expected to be maximized (while the flow and
    associated forcing weakens farther north). Convection is expected
    to be ongoing along and ahead of the cold front through morning,
    but should increase in coverage and intensity during the afternoon
    hours (while locally slowing the most from the Mid-South into
    portions of the Deep South and Central Gulf Coast.With PWs nearing
    2" (well above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding climatology)
    with storm motions locally as slow as 5-10 kts, the 00z HREF 40-km
    neighborhood probabilities for 3"/3-hr reach as high as 20-40%.
    While localized totals of only 1-2" are generally expected, the
    HREF PMM QPF indicates the potential for isolated 3-4" totals (in
    as little as 2-3 hours, nearing associated FFG thresholds).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND ADJACENT SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    2030Z Update...
    Introduced a targeted Slight Risk area in southeast New Mexico
    where an uptick in model QPF and model-derived ingredients overlap
    with an area that was soaked less than 2 weeks ago and remains
    hydrologically sensitive...with the expectation that the risk is
    best late in the period and continuing into the Day 3 period. The
    maximum Areal average rainfall amount looks to be around an
    inch...which normally wouldn't warrant a Slight (especially with
    the given the high flash flood guidance being so high). But with
    the trends of increasing precipitable water, thetae and model QPF=20
    over over and near the site of the flash flood...felt a Slight was=20 appropriate here while a Marginal remained more appropriate=20
    elsewhere from the plains of southeast New Mexico to western=20
    Oklahoma.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    Another shortwave trough will move inland across the West on Friday
    as ridging stays in place over much of the Southeastern US. Warm
    Gulf moisture will be advecting northward into the southern High
    Plains ahead of the trough. Meanwhile, the strongest instability
    (1000+ J/kg of SB CAPE) will likely be in place over West Texas
    and eastern New Mexico. Areal coverage of thunderstorms is forecast
    to increase during the overnight hours (after 00z) into portions
    of southeastern NM and the TX Panhandle, propagating eastward into
    portions of western OK Oklahoma and far southern Kansas. Maintained
    the Marginal Risk from prior cycles, given PWs increasing to 1.0"+
    (above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding climatology). While
    most CAMs still do not reach out to the timeframe of interest, the
    ones that do (the FV3 and CMCreg) suggest the potential for
    localized 3"+ totals, as well as support from the downscaled ECMWF.
    Decided to maintain the Marginal for this cycle, given considerable
    uncertainty and dry antecedent soil conditions.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    2030Z Update...
    Few changes were needed given fairly decent run to run agreement
    with the scenario of a much more potent longwave trough digging
    into the Southwest US that results in more organized convection
    capable of producing heavy rainfall. Opted to not to jump all the
    way to the full extent suggested by the ML ERO guidance...but felt
    an expanded areal coverage was warranted based on the placement
    suggested by spaghetti plots of QPF from the ensembles as well as
    the global models combined with the idea that the rainfall on Day 3
    will function to prime the soils for more runoff/flooding potential
    on Day 4 and beyond. Will continue to watch how much overlap there
    is and upgrade if necessary. Until then...thinking is that the risk
    from Saturday into early Sunday is a high-end Slight Risk from
    parts of Oklahoma into far north Texas.

    Bann


    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    A much more potent longwave trough is progged to dig into the
    Southwest US on Day 2, as leading shortwave impulses are expected
    to result in much more organized convection over much of the
    Southern Plains. Continued southerly low-level flow ahead of the
    impulses should result in PWs pushing 2" (near record levels, per
    SPC sounding climatology) with ample forcing (left exit region of
    100+ kt subtropical jet streak) for organizing convection. The WPC
    QPF calls for areal average totals of 2-3", which is still well
    below the 90th percentile of the PQPF (~4-5"). Given strong
    ensemble support, the inherited Slight Risk was expanded a bit
    (with the expectation of verification on the higher-end of the
    Slight Risk probability spectrum from Northwest TX/Big Country into south-central OK). Given very dry antecedent conditions, a Slight
    Risk was deemed sufficient (but will need to be reevaluated for
    upgrade potential with future updates).

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tc5csKwVqasJcVi2mOW2ZLzgu62FCEPDpEOkA90rPPK= eZBYI7RDqJvHfg7vecSU3wSKf17JFGEbjfbf2BJNAgwevZE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tc5csKwVqasJcVi2mOW2ZLzgu62FCEPDpEOkA90rPPK= eZBYI7RDqJvHfg7vecSU3wSKf17JFGEbjfbf2BJN4yCbD3M$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tc5csKwVqasJcVi2mOW2ZLzgu62FCEPDpEOkA90rPPK= eZBYI7RDqJvHfg7vecSU3wSKf17JFGEbjfbf2BJN1HlI_hA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 1 00:39:12 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 010038
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    838 PM EDT Thu Oct 31 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI...

    A Marginal risk remains from portions of central LA into southern
    and central MS. Localized cell mergers and training may result in a
    few instances of flash flooding over portions of these areas.

    PWs around 2" and MLCAPE of 1000 j/kg are supportive of efficient
    rainfall with a few instances if 2-3" per hour rainfall expected
    where cells briefly train. Some cell merging and training is
    expected over portions of southwest to south central MS through=20
    the evening hours where a slowing line of convection is=20
    intersecting cells moving northward within an axis of southerly=20
    flow. Guidance indicates that the axis of enhanced convergence that
    is driving this threat should weaken within a few hours, with=20
    convective intensity also decreasing. However the MCV that is=20
    evident over central LA may help sustain this convergence a bit=20
    longer than the HRRR indicates...and do think isolated 2-4" amounts
    within a couple hours are possible.

    Instability is a tad higher over LA, and convergence near the
    remnant MCV may linger longer here. While differing in location
    from run to run, recent HRRR runs indicate the potential for a few
    slow moving convective cells/clusters over central LA tonight. In
    the HRRR these cells are anchoring near the instability
    gradient/boundary and are able to persist long enough to produce
    localized amounts in excess of 6". Confidence in only average at=20
    best, but the HRRR scenario is plausible given the setup and=20
    ingredients in place. The main question will be whether the MCV=20
    stays pronounced enough to support continued low level moisture=20 transport/convergence into the instability gradient.

    Dry antecedent conditions have resulted in high FFG values over=20
    the region. Thus flash flood issues should generally stay very=20
    localized in nature and focused within any more sensitive urban=20
    areas where excess runoff from these heavy rates is more likely.=20
    However if the HRRR scenario of 6"+ amounts over portions of LA=20
    pans out overnight, then a more robust flash flood threat could=20
    evolve, so will need to monitor trends through the overnight hours.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND ADJACENT SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    2030Z Update...
    Introduced a targeted Slight Risk area in southeast New Mexico
    where an uptick in model QPF and model-derived ingredients overlap
    with an area that was soaked less than 2 weeks ago and remains
    hydrologically sensitive...with the expectation that the risk is
    best late in the period and continuing into the Day 3 period. The
    maximum Areal average rainfall amount looks to be around an
    inch...which normally wouldn't warrant a Slight (especially with
    the given the high flash flood guidance being so high). But with
    the trends of increasing precipitable water, thetae and model QPF
    over over and near the site of the flash flood...felt a Slight was
    appropriate here while a Marginal remained more appropriate
    elsewhere from the plains of southeast New Mexico to western
    Oklahoma.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    Another shortwave trough will move inland across the West on Friday
    as ridging stays in place over much of the Southeastern US. Warm
    Gulf moisture will be advecting northward into the southern High
    Plains ahead of the trough. Meanwhile, the strongest instability
    (1000+ J/kg of SB CAPE) will likely be in place over West Texas
    and eastern New Mexico. Areal coverage of thunderstorms is forecast
    to increase during the overnight hours (after 00z) into portions
    of southeastern NM and the TX Panhandle, propagating eastward into
    portions of western OK Oklahoma and far southern Kansas. Maintained
    the Marginal Risk from prior cycles, given PWs increasing to 1.0"+
    (above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding climatology). While
    most CAMs still do not reach out to the timeframe of interest, the
    ones that do (the FV3 and CMCreg) suggest the potential for
    localized 3"+ totals, as well as support from the downscaled ECMWF.
    Decided to maintain the Marginal for this cycle, given considerable
    uncertainty and dry antecedent soil conditions.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    2030Z Update...
    Few changes were needed given fairly decent run to run agreement
    with the scenario of a much more potent longwave trough digging
    into the Southwest US that results in more organized convection
    capable of producing heavy rainfall. Opted to not to jump all the
    way to the full extent suggested by the ML ERO guidance...but felt
    an expanded areal coverage was warranted based on the placement
    suggested by spaghetti plots of QPF from the ensembles as well as
    the global models combined with the idea that the rainfall on Day 3
    will function to prime the soils for more runoff/flooding potential
    on Day 4 and beyond. Will continue to watch how much overlap there
    is and upgrade if necessary. Until then...thinking is that the risk
    from Saturday into early Sunday is a high-end Slight Risk from
    parts of Oklahoma into far north Texas.

    Bann


    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    A much more potent longwave trough is progged to dig into the
    Southwest US on Day 2, as leading shortwave impulses are expected
    to result in much more organized convection over much of the
    Southern Plains. Continued southerly low-level flow ahead of the
    impulses should result in PWs pushing 2" (near record levels, per
    SPC sounding climatology) with ample forcing (left exit region of
    100+ kt subtropical jet streak) for organizing convection. The WPC
    QPF calls for areal average totals of 2-3", which is still well
    below the 90th percentile of the PQPF (~4-5"). Given strong
    ensemble support, the inherited Slight Risk was expanded a bit
    (with the expectation of verification on the higher-end of the
    Slight Risk probability spectrum from Northwest TX/Big Country into south-central OK). Given very dry antecedent conditions, a Slight
    Risk was deemed sufficient (but will need to be reevaluated for
    upgrade potential with future updates).

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_UoLTmQYR0fuAD228hQet4eWbUzO9WiC5fyKCKwxcHw= fxofNhFm06fWd8KK9UIOapAq20XbRJXjHNI_w7wmcIEChU0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_UoLTmQYR0fuAD228hQet4eWbUzO9WiC5fyKCKwxcHw= fxofNhFm06fWd8KK9UIOapAq20XbRJXjHNI_w7wm6vDvbpI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_UoLTmQYR0fuAD228hQet4eWbUzO9WiC5fyKCKwxcHw= fxofNhFm06fWd8KK9UIOapAq20XbRJXjHNI_w7wmFbu04ek$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 1 08:10:23 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 010810
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    410 AM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR A SMALL PORTION
    OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...New Mexico and the TX/OK Panhandles...

    A digging trough over the intermountain west will begin to tap into
    building Gulf moisture across eastern New Mexico and the Texas and
    Oklahoma Panhandles. With interactions with upper level energy,
    CAMs guidance is highlighting the Slight risk area from the
    Sacramento Mountains to the Texas state line for the heaviest
    rains. The whole area has been very dry in recent weeks (as has
    most of the country), so that should greatly mitigate the flash
    flooding threat. Further, the guidance isn't in perfect agreement
    on where the heaviest rains will occur...though the Slight risk
    highlights where most of the guidance is. Thus...the threat is most
    certainly still on the lower end of the Slight risk scale.

    The storms that form over New Mexico will train northeastward
    across the Panhandles. Where repetitive training can occur,
    isolated flash flooding is possible, but the storms will be
    stronger further south and west.

    ...Louisiana/Mississippi...

    A convergence zone is likely to set up across the Mississippi Delta
    Friday night. Slow moving convection is expected, though that
    convection would likely need to move over an urban or flood
    sensitive area to cause localized flash flooding. With HREF
    probabilities for 3 inches of rain Friday night over 50%, a
    Marginal Risk area was added with this update.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.=20

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was=20
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas=20
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of=20
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any=20
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight=20
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The=20
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!54mpqT3n57o0nOYn5Oa0v6NeexwhDKGcs-BP52INK_g4= cwIShh9y9kHEesIq-q_au8ooRHXiP0z2JZVKpr7MauwQpu0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!54mpqT3n57o0nOYn5Oa0v6NeexwhDKGcs-BP52INK_g4= cwIShh9y9kHEesIq-q_au8ooRHXiP0z2JZVKpr7M1KWR96o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!54mpqT3n57o0nOYn5Oa0v6NeexwhDKGcs-BP52INK_g4= cwIShh9y9kHEesIq-q_au8ooRHXiP0z2JZVKpr7MMzbwIts$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 011555
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1155 AM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR A SMALL PORTION
    OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Outlook Discussion...
    No changes needed to either the Slight/Marginal risk areas
    southeast New Mexico and adjacent portions of the Texas/Oklahoma
    panhandles or with the Marginal risk area along the immediate Gulf
    coast. With trough amplification over the western United States now underway...flow across the Gulf coast region should begin to
    back...allowing for moisture to return northward/westward leading
    to expanding coverage over the southern High Plains late tonight.
    Dry antecedent conditions should mitigate the risk of excessive
    rainfall in most areas...with the biggest exception being in
    southeast New Mexico which remains hydrologically sensitive
    following significant flash flooding less than 2 week ago. So made
    no changes to the Slight Risk area that was already in place...and
    only minor nudges to the perimeter of the Marginal risk area.
    Farther east...the HREF continues to suggest additional convection
    is possible later today that will have the potential for isolated
    rainfall rates of 1 inch per hour...and even a low probability of 2
    inch per hour rates immediately west of Lake Pontchartrain late=20
    this afternoon/early evening. So no significant change made with=20
    that Marginal risk area.

    Bann

    ...New Mexico and the TX/OK Panhandles...

    A digging trough over the intermountain west will begin to tap into
    building Gulf moisture across eastern New Mexico and the Texas and
    Oklahoma Panhandles. With interactions with upper level energy,
    CAMs guidance is highlighting the Slight risk area from the
    Sacramento Mountains to the Texas state line for the heaviest
    rains. The whole area has been very dry in recent weeks (as has
    most of the country), so that should greatly mitigate the flash
    flooding threat. Further, the guidance isn't in perfect agreement
    on where the heaviest rains will occur...though the Slight risk
    highlights where most of the guidance is. Thus...the threat is most
    certainly still on the lower end of the Slight risk scale.

    The storms that form over New Mexico will train northeastward
    across the Panhandles. Where repetitive training can occur,
    isolated flash flooding is possible, but the storms will be
    stronger further south and west.

    ...Louisiana/Mississippi...

    A convergence zone is likely to set up across the Mississippi Delta
    Friday night. Slow moving convection is expected, though that
    convection would likely need to move over an urban or flood
    sensitive area to cause localized flash flooding. With HREF
    probabilities for 3 inches of rain Friday night over 50%, a
    Marginal Risk area was added with this update.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5woD2AVX70sKGA1_6RABw_cX87AgpUt5W1jreO_OW9gT= CzSHlWNncZNkIzaXWPlTqHWFUDF_ZFpER3EVePYNdCyDIf4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5woD2AVX70sKGA1_6RABw_cX87AgpUt5W1jreO_OW9gT= CzSHlWNncZNkIzaXWPlTqHWFUDF_ZFpER3EVePYN1TPyB_4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5woD2AVX70sKGA1_6RABw_cX87AgpUt5W1jreO_OW9gT= CzSHlWNncZNkIzaXWPlTqHWFUDF_ZFpER3EVePYNgpdyw88$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 012029
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 PM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR A SMALL PORTION
    OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Outlook Discussion...
    No changes needed to either the Slight/Marginal risk areas
    southeast New Mexico and adjacent portions of the Texas/Oklahoma
    panhandles or with the Marginal risk area along the immediate Gulf
    coast. With trough amplification over the western United States now underway...flow across the Gulf coast region should begin to
    back...allowing for moisture to return northward/westward leading
    to expanding coverage over the southern High Plains late tonight.
    Dry antecedent conditions should mitigate the risk of excessive
    rainfall in most areas...with the biggest exception being in
    southeast New Mexico which remains hydrologically sensitive
    following significant flash flooding less than 2 week ago. So made
    no changes to the Slight Risk area that was already in place...and
    only minor nudges to the perimeter of the Marginal risk area.
    Farther east...the HREF continues to suggest additional convection
    is possible later today that will have the potential for isolated
    rainfall rates of 1 inch per hour...and even a low probability of 2
    inch per hour rates immediately west of Lake Pontchartrain late
    this afternoon/early evening. So no significant change made with
    that Marginal risk area.

    Bann

    Previous Discussion...
    ...New Mexico and the TX/OK Panhandles...

    A digging trough over the intermountain west will begin to tap into
    building Gulf moisture across eastern New Mexico and the Texas and
    Oklahoma Panhandles. With interactions with upper level energy,
    CAMs guidance is highlighting the Slight risk area from the
    Sacramento Mountains to the Texas state line for the heaviest
    rains. The whole area has been very dry in recent weeks (as has
    most of the country), so that should greatly mitigate the flash
    flooding threat. Further, the guidance isn't in perfect agreement
    on where the heaviest rains will occur...though the Slight risk
    highlights where most of the guidance is. Thus...the threat is most
    certainly still on the lower end of the Slight risk scale.

    The storms that form over New Mexico will train northeastward
    across the Panhandles. Where repetitive training can occur,
    isolated flash flooding is possible, but the storms will be
    stronger further south and west.

    ...Louisiana/Mississippi...

    A convergence zone is likely to set up across the Mississippi Delta
    Friday night. Slow moving convection is expected, though that
    convection would likely need to move over an urban or flood
    sensitive area to cause localized flash flooding. With HREF
    probabilities for 3 inches of rain Friday night over 50%, a
    Marginal Risk area was added with this update.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    2030Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    There was a subtle westward/southward shift in the axis of heaviest
    rainfall shown in the 12Z numerical suite of guidance. The axis of
    the high-end Slight risk area was elongated in a similar fashion
    with a more subtle shift in the axis, The expectation about the
    very dry antecedent conditions helping to mitigate the overall
    excessive rainfall impacts still hold.

    Bann


    Previous Discussion...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    2030Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    The 12Z suite of guidance offered good support for the placement of
    the Moderate Risk area. Uncertainty remains as to exactly how well
    the dry soils will absorb the rainfall and exactly how much of an
    overlap there will be with the rainfall on Saturday. The model run
    to run consistency to maintain the Moderate risk outlook area.

    Bann

    Previous Discussion...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_MPg9EKJXjwcygoaNgTM_PuVOLSmZSnXOkUGdeb912xZ= jBv3dv1A3m1o83i7WI_4vsUMtiCMFMDkvXspi7sSoR90Y7A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_MPg9EKJXjwcygoaNgTM_PuVOLSmZSnXOkUGdeb912xZ= jBv3dv1A3m1o83i7WI_4vsUMtiCMFMDkvXspi7sShZ56E-M$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_MPg9EKJXjwcygoaNgTM_PuVOLSmZSnXOkUGdeb912xZ= jBv3dv1A3m1o83i7WI_4vsUMtiCMFMDkvXspi7sSr8SMtk8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 020041
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    841 PM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO INTO FAR WEST TEXAS...

    Training convection this evening has resulted in isolated flash
    flooding across portions of central LA. HRRR guidance indicates=20
    the convergence axis driving this activity should weaken over the=20
    next couple hours, with convective intensity and training=20
    potential expected to diminish as well. Cloud tops are beginning to
    show some signs of warming, so maybe this weakening trend is=20
    beginning. Nonetheless, a localized flash flood risk is possible=20
    for the next several hours.

    Otherwise attention turns to portions of southeast NM for the
    overnight hours into Saturday morning. An increasing and robust
    southeasterly low level jet is rapidly returning moisture into the
    region, and convergence on the nose of this moisture transport=20
    axis should help initiate convection within the next several=20
    hours. Larger scale forcing in the form an an approaching longwave
    trough and upper jet streak to the north should increase=20
    overnight, which should help convection grow upscale in nature=20
    after 06z. Some southwest to northeast training appears likely, and
    as is seemingly often the case over this region, would not be=20
    surprised if convective coverage ends up a bit larger than depicted
    by the HRRR. Overall expect 1-3" of rainfall through 12z Saturday,
    but a narrow swath of 3-6" seems possible along the convergence=20
    axis where training is maximized.=20

    Recent HRRR runs have trended a bit north with the maximum=20
    QPF swath in recent runs, and so have also expanded the Slight risk
    in this direction as well. Will not cut back on the southern=20
    extent of the Slight risk as some model guidance still favors this
    corridor. Overall the updated Slight risk encompasses the model=20
    spread and the bit broader nature accounts for the potential of a=20
    more organized convective area as the night progresses.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    2030Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    There was a subtle westward/southward shift in the axis of heaviest
    rainfall shown in the 12Z numerical suite of guidance. The axis of
    the high-end Slight risk area was elongated in a similar fashion
    with a more subtle shift in the axis, The expectation about the
    very dry antecedent conditions helping to mitigate the overall
    excessive rainfall impacts still hold.

    Bann


    Previous Discussion...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    2030Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    The 12Z suite of guidance offered good support for the placement of
    the Moderate Risk area. Uncertainty remains as to exactly how well
    the dry soils will absorb the rainfall and exactly how much of an
    overlap there will be with the rainfall on Saturday. The model run
    to run consistency to maintain the Moderate risk outlook area.

    Bann

    Previous Discussion...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kmUC1SiAotJQqvC9m6TUNm7Jf4ADeIfkR2nhhQM7Ju2= l4G2TBzZuHq_bBaqLU-8qxmrkUzUcjfhtOsvvgzzFUbXPMc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kmUC1SiAotJQqvC9m6TUNm7Jf4ADeIfkR2nhhQM7Ju2= l4G2TBzZuHq_bBaqLU-8qxmrkUzUcjfhtOsvvgzziP_rrww$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kmUC1SiAotJQqvC9m6TUNm7Jf4ADeIfkR2nhhQM7Ju2= l4G2TBzZuHq_bBaqLU-8qxmrkUzUcjfhtOsvvgzz8U9ole4$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 020814
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    414 AM EDT Sat Nov 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A deep but slow-moving longwave trough will move across the Desert
    Southwest through tonight. Multiple shortwaves of upper level=20
    energy will move through the jet stream rounding the base of the=20
    trough. As those shortwaves eject over the high Plains of Texas and
    Oklahoma, they will meet up with increasing Gulf moisture tracking
    northward across Texas. At the surface, the trough-ridge interface
    will feature a slow-moving cold front which will also add to the
    forcing in the area. PWATs will increase above 1.75 inches across
    much of the Slight Risk area.

    The combination of the increasing moisture and ample low and upper
    level forcing will be multiple rounds of training thunderstorms
    initiating over northwest Texas and the Panhandle, then quickly
    organize into segments which will slowly track east as embedded
    heavier cells track northeastward and roughly parallel to the
    lines. This will support training convection which in addition to 2
    inch per hour rates, could mean any particular location in the=20
    Slight Risk area could see multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    In contrast to the heavy rains, mitigating the flood risk has been
    multiple weeks of very little rain across the middle of the
    country. The dry streams and creekbeds will easily be able to
    handle most of the rain that falls, but should training of multiple
    storms occur, especially over any urban areas such as Oklahoma
    City, then flash flooding impacts could quickly arise. Since the
    storms will be slow moving, this will support widely scattered
    flooding impacts, especially from Wichita Falls, TX through
    Oklahoma City.=20

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM CENTRAL AND
    NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA AND ALONG THE KANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER...

    Storms from the overnight period Saturday night will diminish with
    daytime heating and the typical daytime weakening of the LLJ.
    However, throughout the day the atmosphere will recharge such that
    by Sunday night the passage of another shortwave will result in a
    refiring of the storms across central and eastern Oklahoma, which
    will grow and train upscale into far eastern Kansas, Missouri, and
    eventually Iowa and far western Illinois. The Moderate Risk was
    largely unchanged, with a small northward expansion. This is
    primarily the portion of the region which is expected to get some
    rain tonight, which will prime the soils for the heavier rains for
    most of eastern Oklahoma and points north and east by Sunday night.
    This expected overlap of rainfall is what will push the flash
    flooding impact and coverage potential into the Moderate Risk
    category, albeit the lower end of the category. Obviously this will
    largely depend on how much rain is seen in the Moderate Risk area
    Saturday night before the start of the period.

    Once again the LLJ off the Gulf will supply a stream of ample
    moisture to the slow-moving storms, so the flooding impact
    potential, especially in areas where Sunday is the first
    significant rains seen in the area in weeks, will be dependent on
    the upper level energy tracking along the surface front keeping
    storms moving over the same areas. The ERO risk areas were
    conservative on the north and east sides and more liberal on the
    south and west sides due to expected prior rainfall (or lack
    thereof) on Saturday. The lack of prior rainfall has gotten river
    levels to very low conditions, making plenty of room for the water
    from heavy rain. This will greatly diminish the flooding threat
    broadly. Had there been recent rains in this area, then a more
    expansive Moderate Risk may have been needed. From Day 2 onward the
    flooding potential across the middle of the country will be highly
    dependent on how well previous days rains were able to result in
    flooding, as amounts in the highest rainfall risk areas will be
    largely the same day to day, so overlap with previous' days will be
    critical. Of course, urban and low-lying/flood prone areas will be
    at greater risk of flash flooding through Sunday night.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH THE CHICAGOLAND AREA...

    The slow moving cold front that will have brought rains to areas
    west of the Mississippi this weekend will move a little faster to
    the east Monday and Monday night. Additional lines of storms are
    expected again on Monday, but mostly for areas not expected to get
    too much rain this weekend. Thus, the Slight Risk remains good as
    the flooding from heavy rain is offset by the dry soil conditions.
    By this point we should have a good idea as to how much flooding
    will be seen as both Saturday and Sunday's forecast rains will be
    on repeat over the Slight Risk area again on Monday. No significant
    changes were made or needed from the inherited Day 4 forecast.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8NeRbExZA1MgVkKj78BhUMvehFS_rxn5EHxFnOcplCUp= KVhM6znXXgp7V4u-cdieRJipl3Nn6anrM4GQRiMiJB7FKlY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8NeRbExZA1MgVkKj78BhUMvehFS_rxn5EHxFnOcplCUp= KVhM6znXXgp7V4u-cdieRJipl3Nn6anrM4GQRiMiKgziAwk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8NeRbExZA1MgVkKj78BhUMvehFS_rxn5EHxFnOcplCUp= KVhM6znXXgp7V4u-cdieRJipl3Nn6anrM4GQRiMiNEId9tg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 2 16:00:58 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 021600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1200 PM EDT Sat Nov 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...16z update...

    The previous discussion captures the excessive rainfall threat
    well. Minor adjustments were made to the day 1 ERO as a result. The
    slight risk area was expanded on the southwestern and northern
    peripheries to account for increased QPF signals in the 06/12z CAMs.

    Kebede


    ...Previous Discussion...

    A deep but slow-moving longwave trough will move across the Desert
    Southwest through tonight. Multiple shortwaves of upper level
    energy will move through the jet stream rounding the base of the
    trough. As those shortwaves eject over the high Plains of Texas and
    Oklahoma, they will meet up with increasing Gulf moisture tracking
    northward across Texas. At the surface, the trough-ridge interface
    will feature a slow-moving cold front which will also add to the
    forcing in the area. PWATs will increase above 1.75 inches across
    much of the Slight Risk area.

    The combination of the increasing moisture and ample low and upper
    level forcing will be multiple rounds of training thunderstorms
    initiating over northwest Texas and the Panhandle, then quickly
    organize into segments which will slowly track east as embedded
    heavier cells track northeastward and roughly parallel to the
    lines. This will support training convection which in addition to 2
    inch per hour rates, could mean any particular location in the
    Slight Risk area could see multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    In contrast to the heavy rains, mitigating the flood risk has been
    multiple weeks of very little rain across the middle of the
    country. The dry streams and creekbeds will easily be able to
    handle most of the rain that falls, but should training of multiple
    storms occur, especially over any urban areas such as Oklahoma
    City, then flash flooding impacts could quickly arise. Since the
    storms will be slow moving, this will support widely scattered
    flooding impacts, especially from Wichita Falls, TX through
    Oklahoma City.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM CENTRAL AND
    NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA AND ALONG THE KANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER...

    Storms from the overnight period Saturday night will diminish with
    daytime heating and the typical daytime weakening of the LLJ.
    However, throughout the day the atmosphere will recharge such that
    by Sunday night the passage of another shortwave will result in a
    refiring of the storms across central and eastern Oklahoma, which
    will grow and train upscale into far eastern Kansas, Missouri, and
    eventually Iowa and far western Illinois. The Moderate Risk was
    largely unchanged, with a small northward expansion. This is
    primarily the portion of the region which is expected to get some
    rain tonight, which will prime the soils for the heavier rains for
    most of eastern Oklahoma and points north and east by Sunday night.
    This expected overlap of rainfall is what will push the flash
    flooding impact and coverage potential into the Moderate Risk
    category, albeit the lower end of the category. Obviously this will
    largely depend on how much rain is seen in the Moderate Risk area
    Saturday night before the start of the period.

    Once again the LLJ off the Gulf will supply a stream of ample
    moisture to the slow-moving storms, so the flooding impact
    potential, especially in areas where Sunday is the first
    significant rains seen in the area in weeks, will be dependent on
    the upper level energy tracking along the surface front keeping
    storms moving over the same areas. The ERO risk areas were
    conservative on the north and east sides and more liberal on the
    south and west sides due to expected prior rainfall (or lack
    thereof) on Saturday. The lack of prior rainfall has gotten river
    levels to very low conditions, making plenty of room for the water
    from heavy rain. This will greatly diminish the flooding threat
    broadly. Had there been recent rains in this area, then a more
    expansive Moderate Risk may have been needed. From Day 2 onward the
    flooding potential across the middle of the country will be highly
    dependent on how well previous days rains were able to result in
    flooding, as amounts in the highest rainfall risk areas will be
    largely the same day to day, so overlap with previous' days will be
    critical. Of course, urban and low-lying/flood prone areas will be
    at greater risk of flash flooding through Sunday night.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH THE CHICAGOLAND AREA...

    The slow moving cold front that will have brought rains to areas
    west of the Mississippi this weekend will move a little faster to
    the east Monday and Monday night. Additional lines of storms are
    expected again on Monday, but mostly for areas not expected to get
    too much rain this weekend. Thus, the Slight Risk remains good as
    the flooding from heavy rain is offset by the dry soil conditions.
    By this point we should have a good idea as to how much flooding
    will be seen as both Saturday and Sunday's forecast rains will be
    on repeat over the Slight Risk area again on Monday. No significant
    changes were made or needed from the inherited Day 4 forecast.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83fy-bWWv1Kur9TAq75h5oq_13iEmtcAf2bCQrWKZeDF= KSUwPyP_KVYsSb7xGhT-TvNf52AGohKM3Iyqw_tt7jKHjB4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83fy-bWWv1Kur9TAq75h5oq_13iEmtcAf2bCQrWKZeDF= KSUwPyP_KVYsSb7xGhT-TvNf52AGohKM3Iyqw_ttTQSwsp0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83fy-bWWv1Kur9TAq75h5oq_13iEmtcAf2bCQrWKZeDF= KSUwPyP_KVYsSb7xGhT-TvNf52AGohKM3Iyqw_ttFylgohw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 2 20:22:34 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 022022
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    422 PM EDT Sat Nov 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...16z update...

    The previous discussion captures the excessive rainfall threat
    well. Minor adjustments were made to the day 1 ERO as a result. The
    slight risk area was expanded on the southwestern and northern
    peripheries to account for increased QPF signals in the 06/12z CAMs.

    Kebede


    ...Previous Discussion...

    A deep but slow-moving longwave trough will move across the Desert
    Southwest through tonight. Multiple shortwaves of upper level
    energy will move through the jet stream rounding the base of the
    trough. As those shortwaves eject over the high Plains of Texas and
    Oklahoma, they will meet up with increasing Gulf moisture tracking
    northward across Texas. At the surface, the trough-ridge interface
    will feature a slow-moving cold front which will also add to the
    forcing in the area. PWATs will increase above 1.75 inches across
    much of the Slight Risk area.

    The combination of the increasing moisture and ample low and upper
    level forcing will be multiple rounds of training thunderstorms
    initiating over northwest Texas and the Panhandle, then quickly
    organize into segments which will slowly track east as embedded
    heavier cells track northeastward and roughly parallel to the
    lines. This will support training convection which in addition to 2
    inch per hour rates, could mean any particular location in the
    Slight Risk area could see multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    In contrast to the heavy rains, mitigating the flood risk has been
    multiple weeks of very little rain across the middle of the
    country. The dry streams and creekbeds will easily be able to
    handle most of the rain that falls, but should training of multiple
    storms occur, especially over any urban areas such as Oklahoma
    City, then flash flooding impacts could quickly arise. Since the
    storms will be slow moving, this will support widely scattered
    flooding impacts, especially from Wichita Falls, TX through
    Oklahoma City.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM CENTRAL AND
    NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA AND ALONG THE KANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER...

    ...2030z Update...

    The inherited risk areas remain mostly unchanged, save for some
    minor tweaks to the northern portions of the Marginal and Slight
    Risk areas. The previous discussion remains valid. 12z guidance
    hasn't changed much in its presentation of the axis of QPF over the
    affected regions.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Storms from the overnight period Saturday night will diminish with
    daytime heating and the typical daytime weakening of the LLJ.
    However, throughout the day the atmosphere will recharge such that
    by Sunday night the passage of another shortwave will result in a
    refiring of the storms across central and eastern Oklahoma, which
    will grow and train upscale into far eastern Kansas, Missouri, and
    eventually Iowa and far western Illinois. The Moderate Risk was
    largely unchanged, with a small northward expansion. This is
    primarily the portion of the region which is expected to get some
    rain tonight, which will prime the soils for the heavier rains for
    most of eastern Oklahoma and points north and east by Sunday night.
    This expected overlap of rainfall is what will push the flash
    flooding impact and coverage potential into the Moderate Risk
    category, albeit the lower end of the category. Obviously this will
    largely depend on how much rain is seen in the Moderate Risk area
    Saturday night before the start of the period.

    Once again the LLJ off the Gulf will supply a stream of ample
    moisture to the slow-moving storms, so the flooding impact
    potential, especially in areas where Sunday is the first
    significant rains seen in the area in weeks, will be dependent on
    the upper level energy tracking along the surface front keeping
    storms moving over the same areas. The ERO risk areas were
    conservative on the north and east sides and more liberal on the
    south and west sides due to expected prior rainfall (or lack
    thereof) on Saturday. The lack of prior rainfall has gotten river
    levels to very low conditions, making plenty of room for the water
    from heavy rain. This will greatly diminish the flooding threat
    broadly. Had there been recent rains in this area, then a more
    expansive Moderate Risk may have been needed. From Day 2 onward the
    flooding potential across the middle of the country will be highly
    dependent on how well previous days rains were able to result in
    flooding, as amounts in the highest rainfall risk areas will be
    largely the same day to day, so overlap with previous' days will be
    critical. Of course, urban and low-lying/flood prone areas will be
    at greater risk of flash flooding through Sunday night.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH THE CHICAGOLAND AREA...

    ...2030z Update...

    The Marginal and Slight Risk areas were expanded on their northern
    and southern peripheries to include parts of Michigan and more of=20
    eastern Texas. PWAT anomalies in the 3-5 standard deviation range
    and a substantial low level jet (50kts+) over the Upper Midwest=20
    was enough to warrant an expansion of that Slight Risk into those
    areas. An upgrade to a Moderate Risk area over portions of the=20
    Lower Missouri Valley was considered, but ultimately not
    implemented since it'll depend on how much priming occurs during
    the days 1 and 2 timeframes.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The slow moving cold front that will have brought rains to areas
    west of the Mississippi this weekend will move a little faster to
    the east Monday and Monday night. Additional lines of storms are
    expected again on Monday, but mostly for areas not expected to get
    too much rain this weekend. Thus, the Slight Risk remains good as
    the flooding from heavy rain is offset by the dry soil conditions.
    By this point we should have a good idea as to how much flooding
    will be seen as both Saturday and Sunday's forecast rains will be
    on repeat over the Slight Risk area again on Monday. No significant
    changes were made or needed from the inherited Day 4 forecast.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8V2UW9SKMyEO4KXDg2nZQl1Uaob3OPVlJj82fsBpakvU= zmoa0lrNCAed1W81akONpe_6L3TgdybyuTAJ0ik6yBMBwGg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8V2UW9SKMyEO4KXDg2nZQl1Uaob3OPVlJj82fsBpakvU= zmoa0lrNCAed1W81akONpe_6L3TgdybyuTAJ0ik6COwtF30$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8V2UW9SKMyEO4KXDg2nZQl1Uaob3OPVlJj82fsBpakvU= zmoa0lrNCAed1W81akONpe_6L3TgdybyuTAJ0ik6bbb5PFI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 3 00:23:29 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 030023
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    823 PM EDT Sat Nov 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...


    A deep, slow-moving longwave trough will move across the Desert=20
    Southwest through tonight. Multiple shortwaves of upper level=20
    energy will move through the jet stream rounding the base of the=20
    trough. As those shortwaves eject over the High Plains of Texas=20
    and Oklahoma, they will meet up with increasing Gulf moisture=20
    tracking northward across Texas. At the surface, the trough-ridge=20
    interface will feature a slow-moving cold front which will also add
    to the forcing in the area. PWATs increase above 1.75 inches=20
    across much of the Slight Risk area.

    The combination of the increasing moisture and ample low and upper
    level forcing will be multiple rounds of training thunderstorms
    initiating over northwest Texas and the Panhandle, then quickly
    organize into segments which will slowly track east as embedded
    heavier cells track northeastward and roughly parallel to the
    lines. This will support training convection which in addition to 2
    inch per hour rates, could mean any particular location in the
    Slight Risk area could see multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    In contrast to the heavy rains, mitigating the flood risk has been
    multiple weeks of very little rain across the middle of the
    country. The dry streams and creekbeds will easily be able to
    handle most of the rain that falls, but should training of multiple
    storms occur, especially over any urban areas such as Oklahoma
    City, then flash flooding impacts could quickly arise. Since the
    storms will be slow moving, this will support widely scattered
    flooding impacts, especially from Wichita Falls, TX through
    Oklahoma City.

    Changes to the previously issued outlook were to account for storm
    motion and the 18z HREF hourly and 12 hourly probabilities for
    heavy rainfall. This led to trimming of the northwest side of the
    previously defined areas, but no change to the risk level across=20
    the region as a whole.

    Roth/Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM CENTRAL AND
    NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA AND ALONG THE KANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER...

    ...2030z Update...

    The inherited risk areas remain mostly unchanged, save for some
    minor tweaks to the northern portions of the Marginal and Slight
    Risk areas. The previous discussion remains valid. 12z guidance
    hasn't changed much in its presentation of the axis of QPF over the
    affected regions.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Storms from the overnight period Saturday night will diminish with
    daytime heating and the typical daytime weakening of the LLJ.
    However, throughout the day the atmosphere will recharge such that
    by Sunday night the passage of another shortwave will result in a
    refiring of the storms across central and eastern Oklahoma, which
    will grow and train upscale into far eastern Kansas, Missouri, and
    eventually Iowa and far western Illinois. The Moderate Risk was
    largely unchanged, with a small northward expansion. This is
    primarily the portion of the region which is expected to get some
    rain tonight, which will prime the soils for the heavier rains for
    most of eastern Oklahoma and points north and east by Sunday night.
    This expected overlap of rainfall is what will push the flash
    flooding impact and coverage potential into the Moderate Risk
    category, albeit the lower end of the category. Obviously this will
    largely depend on how much rain is seen in the Moderate Risk area
    Saturday night before the start of the period.

    Once again the LLJ off the Gulf will supply a stream of ample
    moisture to the slow-moving storms, so the flooding impact
    potential, especially in areas where Sunday is the first
    significant rains seen in the area in weeks, will be dependent on
    the upper level energy tracking along the surface front keeping
    storms moving over the same areas. The ERO risk areas were
    conservative on the north and east sides and more liberal on the
    south and west sides due to expected prior rainfall (or lack
    thereof) on Saturday. The lack of prior rainfall has gotten river
    levels to very low conditions, making plenty of room for the water
    from heavy rain. This will greatly diminish the flooding threat
    broadly. Had there been recent rains in this area, then a more
    expansive Moderate Risk may have been needed. From Day 2 onward the
    flooding potential across the middle of the country will be highly
    dependent on how well previous days rains were able to result in
    flooding, as amounts in the highest rainfall risk areas will be
    largely the same day to day, so overlap with previous' days will be
    critical. Of course, urban and low-lying/flood prone areas will be
    at greater risk of flash flooding through Sunday night.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH THE CHICAGOLAND AREA...

    ...2030z Update...

    The Marginal and Slight Risk areas were expanded on their northern
    and southern peripheries to include parts of Michigan and more of
    eastern Texas. PWAT anomalies in the 3-5 standard deviation range
    and a substantial low level jet (50kts+) over the Upper Midwest
    was enough to warrant an expansion of that Slight Risk into those
    areas. An upgrade to a Moderate Risk area over portions of the
    Lower Missouri Valley was considered, but ultimately not
    implemented since it'll depend on how much priming occurs during
    the days 1 and 2 timeframes.

    Kebede

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The slow moving cold front that will have brought rains to areas
    west of the Mississippi this weekend will move a little faster to
    the east Monday and Monday night. Additional lines of storms are
    expected again on Monday, but mostly for areas not expected to get
    too much rain this weekend. Thus, the Slight Risk remains good as
    the flooding from heavy rain is offset by the dry soil conditions.
    By this point we should have a good idea as to how much flooding
    will be seen as both Saturday and Sunday's forecast rains will be
    on repeat over the Slight Risk area again on Monday. No significant
    changes were made or needed from the inherited Day 4 forecast.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!40x6J5x7F93xaDkVIDKHcqFeRxLy7VrYlqiVsJkZnkLU= mFVShQ-pJbop2yL5uS74eZY4stC5lObx0QGO2vxYPfXha7Y$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!40x6J5x7F93xaDkVIDKHcqFeRxLy7VrYlqiVsJkZnkLU= mFVShQ-pJbop2yL5uS74eZY4stC5lObx0QGO2vxYGtTQZUE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!40x6J5x7F93xaDkVIDKHcqFeRxLy7VrYlqiVsJkZnkLU= mFVShQ-pJbop2yL5uS74eZY4stC5lObx0QGO2vxY6F3LXBw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 3 08:08:40 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 030808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    308 AM EST Sun Nov 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND THE OZARKS...

    ...Southern Plains and the Ozarks...

    In coordination with TSA/Tulsa, OK; LZK/Little Rock, AR; and
    SGF/Springfield, MO forecast offices, the inherited Moderate Risk
    area was downgraded to a Slight with this update. The surrounding
    Marginal was trimmed out of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and much of Iowa.=20

    There was a notable south and eastward shift in the guidance as to
    the axis of heaviest rainfall expected across Oklahoma and Arkansas
    today into tonight. A longwave trough over the Southwest will shift
    eastward today. Embedded shortwave disturbances as well as a
    developing 90 kt jet streak will move over the region through
    tonight. A well-established low level jet (LLJ) will continue to advect plentiful Gulf moisture northward into the area. The result will be
    multiple rounds of storms with embedded training cells in OK/AR and
    into MO. Much of the area has been very dry lately, though
    yesterday some rain impacted the area, especially in Oklahoma and
    into southern Missouri. Multiple "streaks" of much heavier rainfall
    are anticipated where cells of much heavier rain train over the
    same areas. This is likely to cause widely scattered to scattered
    instances of flash flooding.=20

    Antecedent conditions will be the primary limiting factor keeping
    the flooding impacts in check. Very dry conditions prior to this
    event has led to drought conditions developing with very low river
    and stream levels. Thus...much of the rain expected today will be
    beneficial and work to return those rivers and streams to much more
    normal levels. However, given the plentiful moisture, training
    storms, and some flood prone areas, the heavy rain could cause
    localized flash flooding. The eastward shift in the guidance has
    also introduced the Ozarks into the highest risk area. The
    topography of the area will help to focus the heavy rainfall into
    the valleys...which could result in rapid river, stream and creek
    rises. This also locally increases the flash flooding threat as
    compared to the same amount of rain falling over relatively flat
    terrain.

    While forecast rainfall amounts haven't changed appreciably as
    compared with previous forecasts, the shift of the heaviest rain
    eastward and into many areas that did not receive appreciable rain
    today has reduced the likely flood impact threat as well as
    coverage. When added to the dry antecedent conditions, this should
    keep flooding impacts from becoming widespread enough to reach
    Moderate Risk levels. Hence, while flash flooding remains likely as
    amounts could locally exceed 5 inches, the impact and coverage was
    determined to be in the Slight Risk category...hence the downgrade.

    ...Upper Midwest...

    In the upper Midwest, the eastward shift in the guidance and a more
    west to east movement of the expected convection should limit how
    much instability and moisture reach the upper Mississippi Valley.
    It's likely any remaining convection will be in a much weakened
    state by the time the rain reaches this area. Since similarly dry
    conditions and drought have impacted the upper Great Lakes in
    recent weeks, the largely stratiform nature of the rain should mean
    all of the rain will be beneficial with no flooding concerns noted.
    Thus, the Marginal was trimmed towards the south.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH PORTIONS OF WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    Few changes were made or needed to the Slight Risk area across the
    middle of the country.

    A deep longwave trough will continue move eastward but begin to
    weaken and lift northward back into the jet stream on Monday. As it
    does so, associated jet streaks will intensify downstream of the
    trough, which will support its deamplification. The LLJ that has
    been supplying Gulf moisture will also elongate towards the north
    reaching as far north as lower Michigan by Monday. This will cause
    the resultant moisture to focus in a SSW to NNE corridor from Texas
    to Michigan. Unidirectional SSW flow will support training
    thunderstorms. The strongest storms are expected from Texas through
    Missouri, which will have access to the greatest Gulf instability
    and moisture. The storms will gradually weaken the further north
    you go, but are expected to maintain their integrity into Wisconsin
    and Michigan. The topography of the Ozarks will further locally
    enhance rainfall totals due to some upslope support.=20

    Due to overlap with the rainfall footprint Monday with that=20
    expected today, there is some potential for a Moderate Risk upgrade
    from western Arkansas into southern Missouri. However, this will be
    highly dependent on how much rain falls in that area today/Sunday.
    Total rainfall amounts will be somewhat lower on Monday as compared
    to Sunday, hence the importance of rain falling over the same areas
    as Sunday to enhance the flooding threat to Moderate Risk levels. Thus,
    the potential for an upgrade will continue to be evaluated.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    By Tuesday, a progressive cold front pushing across the Mississippi
    Valley and associated upper level trough and shortwave will
    separate...with the upper shortwave ejecting northeastward into the
    Great Lakes, leaving the front behind. The combination of steady
    forward movement of the storms through the day followed by the
    rapid diminishing of any and all upper level support by Tuesday
    night will rapidly diminish the flooding threat as storm coverage
    and intensity also diminish. With some supply of Gulf moisture
    continuing on Tuesday, the storms that form through the day will
    still have enough punch to cause locally heavy rainfall. However,
    the eastward progression of the front should allow this rain to
    fall largely over areas that remain dry today/Sunday and Monday.
    Antecedent dry conditions will preclude much of the flooding threat
    by Tuesday, so only isolated flash flooding in urban and flood
    prone areas is anticipated. The Marginal Risk is largely unchanged
    from previous forecasts.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_-v8iTLljYp2O6xUnMo5BvoPmA3GJ_Egn4rs7HPGG0ue= C_E6rtfvyg-k827Q75xmxZ9xetgOzUPA0P8cJGxZZToUjjU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_-v8iTLljYp2O6xUnMo5BvoPmA3GJ_Egn4rs7HPGG0ue= C_E6rtfvyg-k827Q75xmxZ9xetgOzUPA0P8cJGxZanTMAd8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_-v8iTLljYp2O6xUnMo5BvoPmA3GJ_Egn4rs7HPGG0ue= C_E6rtfvyg-k827Q75xmxZ9xetgOzUPA0P8cJGxZw-14-HE$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 031558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1058 AM EST Sun Nov 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND THE OZARKS...

    ...16z Update...

    Little change to the inherited Slight Risk area, owing to
    observational trends and the new 12z HREF suite. The bulk of the
    expected rainfall going forward looks to occur to the south and
    east of areas that were hardest hit over the past 12 hours=20
    (mainly central to northeast OK). Despite this, the Slight was
    maintained over the wetter antecedent conditions, as elevated
    convection looks to still result in scattered 2-3" totals (well
    represented by the 12z HREF blended-mean, and particularly the 12z
    HRRR solution). Farther south and east (into southeast OK and
    northwest AR), scattered to numerous totals of 3-5" are more likely
    (with isolated/localized totals of 5" possible). Drier antecedent=20
    conditions across this region will likely limit instances of flash
    flooding to scattered coverage, but locally significant flash=20
    flooding will still be possible (considering that consecutive 3-hr
    periods of 3" exceedance are progged at 20-40% after 00z, per HREF
    40-km neighborhood exceedance probabilities).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains and the Ozarks...

    In coordination with TSA/Tulsa, OK; LZK/Little Rock, AR; and
    SGF/Springfield, MO forecast offices, the inherited Moderate Risk
    area was downgraded to a Slight with this update. The surrounding
    Marginal was trimmed out of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and much of Iowa.

    There was a notable south and eastward shift in the guidance as to
    the axis of heaviest rainfall expected across Oklahoma and Arkansas
    today into tonight. A longwave trough over the Southwest will shift
    eastward today. Embedded shortwave disturbances as well as a
    developing 90 kt jet streak will move over the region through
    tonight. A well-established low level jet (LLJ) will continue to advect plentiful Gulf moisture northward into the area. The result will be
    multiple rounds of storms with embedded training cells in OK/AR and
    into MO. Much of the area has been very dry lately, though
    yesterday some rain impacted the area, especially in Oklahoma and
    into southern Missouri. Multiple "streaks" of much heavier rainfall
    are anticipated where cells of much heavier rain train over the
    same areas. This is likely to cause widely scattered to scattered
    instances of flash flooding.

    Antecedent conditions will be the primary limiting factor keeping
    the flooding impacts in check. Very dry conditions prior to this
    event has led to drought conditions developing with very low river
    and stream levels. Thus...much of the rain expected today will be
    beneficial and work to return those rivers and streams to much more
    normal levels. However, given the plentiful moisture, training
    storms, and some flood prone areas, the heavy rain could cause
    localized flash flooding. The eastward shift in the guidance has
    also introduced the Ozarks into the highest risk area. The
    topography of the area will help to focus the heavy rainfall into
    the valleys...which could result in rapid river, stream and creek
    rises. This also locally increases the flash flooding threat as
    compared to the same amount of rain falling over relatively flat
    terrain.

    While forecast rainfall amounts haven't changed appreciably as
    compared with previous forecasts, the shift of the heaviest rain
    eastward and into many areas that did not receive appreciable rain
    today has reduced the likely flood impact threat as well as
    coverage. When added to the dry antecedent conditions, this should
    keep flooding impacts from becoming widespread enough to reach
    Moderate Risk levels. Hence, while flash flooding remains likely as
    amounts could locally exceed 5 inches, the impact and coverage was
    determined to be in the Slight Risk category...hence the downgrade.

    ...Upper Midwest...

    In the upper Midwest, the eastward shift in the guidance and a more
    west to east movement of the expected convection should limit how
    much instability and moisture reach the upper Mississippi Valley.
    It's likely any remaining convection will be in a much weakened
    state by the time the rain reaches this area. Since similarly dry
    conditions and drought have impacted the upper Great Lakes in
    recent weeks, the largely stratiform nature of the rain should mean
    all of the rain will be beneficial with no flooding concerns noted.
    Thus, the Marginal was trimmed towards the south.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH PORTIONS OF WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    Few changes were made or needed to the Slight Risk area across the
    middle of the country.

    A deep longwave trough will continue move eastward but begin to
    weaken and lift northward back into the jet stream on Monday. As it
    does so, associated jet streaks will intensify downstream of the
    trough, which will support its deamplification. The LLJ that has
    been supplying Gulf moisture will also elongate towards the north
    reaching as far north as lower Michigan by Monday. This will cause
    the resultant moisture to focus in a SSW to NNE corridor from Texas
    to Michigan. Unidirectional SSW flow will support training
    thunderstorms. The strongest storms are expected from Texas through
    Missouri, which will have access to the greatest Gulf instability
    and moisture. The storms will gradually weaken the further north
    you go, but are expected to maintain their integrity into Wisconsin
    and Michigan. The topography of the Ozarks will further locally
    enhance rainfall totals due to some upslope support.

    Due to overlap with the rainfall footprint Monday with that
    expected today, there is some potential for a Moderate Risk upgrade
    from western Arkansas into southern Missouri. However, this will be
    highly dependent on how much rain falls in that area today/Sunday.
    Total rainfall amounts will be somewhat lower on Monday as compared
    to Sunday, hence the importance of rain falling over the same areas
    as Sunday to enhance the flooding threat to Moderate Risk levels. Thus,
    the potential for an upgrade will continue to be evaluated.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    By Tuesday, a progressive cold front pushing across the Mississippi
    Valley and associated upper level trough and shortwave will
    separate...with the upper shortwave ejecting northeastward into the
    Great Lakes, leaving the front behind. The combination of steady
    forward movement of the storms through the day followed by the
    rapid diminishing of any and all upper level support by Tuesday
    night will rapidly diminish the flooding threat as storm coverage
    and intensity also diminish. With some supply of Gulf moisture
    continuing on Tuesday, the storms that form through the day will
    still have enough punch to cause locally heavy rainfall. However,
    the eastward progression of the front should allow this rain to
    fall largely over areas that remain dry today/Sunday and Monday.
    Antecedent dry conditions will preclude much of the flooding threat
    by Tuesday, so only isolated flash flooding in urban and flood
    prone areas is anticipated. The Marginal Risk is largely unchanged
    from previous forecasts.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4oy93G7Li6BfSvV45-I-Ko8I5CB8QzXc1rrwDQJe9Z2R= ermzHL0LfVpB_CFBiQ9P07y8-UDTR6ky5t3QViJeqsDbIUE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4oy93G7Li6BfSvV45-I-Ko8I5CB8QzXc1rrwDQJe9Z2R= ermzHL0LfVpB_CFBiQ9P07y8-UDTR6ky5t3QViJeEnAq4u0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4oy93G7Li6BfSvV45-I-Ko8I5CB8QzXc1rrwDQJe9Z2R= ermzHL0LfVpB_CFBiQ9P07y8-UDTR6ky5t3QViJeThwEZLg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 3 19:58:26 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 031958
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    258 PM EST Sun Nov 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND THE OZARKS...

    ...16z Update...

    Little change to the inherited Slight Risk area, owing to
    observational trends and the new 12z HREF suite. The bulk of the
    expected rainfall going forward looks to occur to the south and
    east of areas that were hardest hit over the past 12 hours
    (mainly central to northeast OK). Despite this, the Slight was
    maintained over the wetter antecedent conditions, as elevated
    convection looks to still result in scattered 2-3" totals (well
    represented by the 12z HREF blended-mean, and particularly the 12z
    HRRR solution). Farther south and east (into southeast OK and
    northwest AR), scattered to numerous totals of 3-5" are more likely
    (with isolated/localized totals of 5" possible). Drier antecedent
    conditions across this region will likely limit instances of flash
    flooding to scattered coverage, but locally significant flash
    flooding will still be possible (considering that consecutive 3-hr
    periods of 3" exceedance are progged at 20-40% after 00z, per HREF
    40-km neighborhood exceedance probabilities).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains and the Ozarks...

    In coordination with TSA/Tulsa, OK; LZK/Little Rock, AR; and
    SGF/Springfield, MO forecast offices, the inherited Moderate Risk
    area was downgraded to a Slight with this update. The surrounding
    Marginal was trimmed out of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and much of Iowa.

    There was a notable south and eastward shift in the guidance as to
    the axis of heaviest rainfall expected across Oklahoma and Arkansas
    today into tonight. A longwave trough over the Southwest will shift
    eastward today. Embedded shortwave disturbances as well as a
    developing 90 kt jet streak will move over the region through
    tonight. A well-established low level jet (LLJ) will continue to advect plentiful Gulf moisture northward into the area. The result will be
    multiple rounds of storms with embedded training cells in OK/AR and
    into MO. Much of the area has been very dry lately, though
    yesterday some rain impacted the area, especially in Oklahoma and
    into southern Missouri. Multiple "streaks" of much heavier rainfall
    are anticipated where cells of much heavier rain train over the
    same areas. This is likely to cause widely scattered to scattered
    instances of flash flooding.

    Antecedent conditions will be the primary limiting factor keeping
    the flooding impacts in check. Very dry conditions prior to this
    event has led to drought conditions developing with very low river
    and stream levels. Thus...much of the rain expected today will be
    beneficial and work to return those rivers and streams to much more
    normal levels. However, given the plentiful moisture, training
    storms, and some flood prone areas, the heavy rain could cause
    localized flash flooding. The eastward shift in the guidance has
    also introduced the Ozarks into the highest risk area. The
    topography of the area will help to focus the heavy rainfall into
    the valleys...which could result in rapid river, stream and creek
    rises. This also locally increases the flash flooding threat as
    compared to the same amount of rain falling over relatively flat
    terrain.

    While forecast rainfall amounts haven't changed appreciably as
    compared with previous forecasts, the shift of the heaviest rain
    eastward and into many areas that did not receive appreciable rain
    today has reduced the likely flood impact threat as well as
    coverage. When added to the dry antecedent conditions, this should
    keep flooding impacts from becoming widespread enough to reach
    Moderate Risk levels. Hence, while flash flooding remains likely as
    amounts could locally exceed 5 inches, the impact and coverage was
    determined to be in the Slight Risk category...hence the downgrade.

    ...Upper Midwest...

    In the upper Midwest, the eastward shift in the guidance and a more
    west to east movement of the expected convection should limit how
    much instability and moisture reach the upper Mississippi Valley.
    It's likely any remaining convection will be in a much weakened
    state by the time the rain reaches this area. Since similarly dry
    conditions and drought have impacted the upper Great Lakes in
    recent weeks, the largely stratiform nature of the rain should mean
    all of the rain will be beneficial with no flooding concerns noted.
    Thus, the Marginal was trimmed towards the south.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH PORTIONS OF WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    20Z Update: Changes were few and far between for the D2 ERO with
    the primary deviation being a slight shift eastward with the risk
    areas given the latest trends within the forecast precip. A
    secondary area of development over the course the evening into
    tomorrow morning will generate another outflow dominant convective
    pattern with a general expansion of the precip further to the north
    and east leading to areas downstream in the Ozarks becoming the
    benefactor of the heaviest precip. There's a strong consensus for
    heavy rain totals exceeding 3" across the above area with a the 12z
    HREF neighborhood probabilities exceeding 70% for the >3" threshold
    extending from Southeast OK up through Northwest and North-Central
    AR into Southeastern MO. EAS probabilities follow suit with an axis
    of 50+% of >2" probs located over the same area with a 20-30% for
    3" encompassing a good portion of the Ozarks. The antecedent
    conditions leading in are relatively dry in the grand scheme with
    the NASA SPoRT indicators leveling off the soil moisture
    percentiles below 40% for much of the area anticipating heavy rain.
    The more complex terrain does offer a slightly better risk than
    typical compared to areas in the plains, so the prospects are
    within the higher end of the SLGT risk margin, but just outside the
    MDT risk upgrade for the time being. Pending the evolution of the
    activity tonight, an upgrade may be necessary, targeting locations
    likely centered over Northwest AR into Southern MO. Will continue
    to monitor the situation closely as it evolves.=20

    ..Previous Forecast..

    Few changes were made or needed to the Slight Risk area across the
    middle of the country.

    A deep longwave trough will continue move eastward but begin to
    weaken and lift northward back into the jet stream on Monday. As it
    does so, associated jet streaks will intensify downstream of the
    trough, which will support its deamplification. The LLJ that has
    been supplying Gulf moisture will also elongate towards the north
    reaching as far north as lower Michigan by Monday. This will cause
    the resultant moisture to focus in a SSW to NNE corridor from Texas
    to Michigan. Unidirectional SSW flow will support training
    thunderstorms. The strongest storms are expected from Texas through
    Missouri, which will have access to the greatest Gulf instability
    and moisture. The storms will gradually weaken the further north
    you go, but are expected to maintain their integrity into Wisconsin
    and Michigan. The topography of the Ozarks will further locally
    enhance rainfall totals due to some upslope support.

    Due to overlap with the rainfall footprint Monday with that
    expected today, there is some potential for a Moderate Risk upgrade
    from western Arkansas into southern Missouri. However, this will be
    highly dependent on how much rain falls in that area today/Sunday.
    Total rainfall amounts will be somewhat lower on Monday as compared
    to Sunday, hence the importance of rain falling over the same areas
    as Sunday to enhance the flooding threat to Moderate Risk levels. Thus,
    the potential for an upgrade will continue to be evaluated.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    20Z Update: Very minor adjustments were made to the MRGL risk
    located across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys as the overall
    pattern and subsequent rainfall forecast maintained continuity from
    run-to-run. Areal average QPF runs between 1-2" for the period with
    the heaviest rainfall likely relegated over the Mid Mississippi
    Valley Tuesday morning and afternoon before petering out as the
    disturbance shifts eastward. Main threats will be relegated to
    mainly urban and small stream flooding with more isolated flash
    flood concerns in terms of an areal extent.

    ..Previous Forecast..

    By Tuesday, a progressive cold front pushing across the Mississippi
    Valley and associated upper level trough and shortwave will
    separate...with the upper shortwave ejecting northeastward into the
    Great Lakes, leaving the front behind. The combination of steady
    forward movement of the storms through the day followed by the
    rapid diminishing of any and all upper level support by Tuesday
    night will rapidly diminish the flooding threat as storm coverage
    and intensity also diminish. With some supply of Gulf moisture
    continuing on Tuesday, the storms that form through the day will
    still have enough punch to cause locally heavy rainfall. However,
    the eastward progression of the front should allow this rain to
    fall largely over areas that remain dry today/Sunday and Monday.
    Antecedent dry conditions will preclude much of the flooding threat
    by Tuesday, so only isolated flash flooding in urban and flood
    prone areas is anticipated. The Marginal Risk is largely unchanged
    from previous forecasts.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6LZ8i1DGnrnHmAHubfPiUy_Bha_2G_RP8Kgp0pOWxmpL= g8arBu_6BERdNtE-mwrkOLAqU5ufaxDBRD1p-sn1ObbN8pU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6LZ8i1DGnrnHmAHubfPiUy_Bha_2G_RP8Kgp0pOWxmpL= g8arBu_6BERdNtE-mwrkOLAqU5ufaxDBRD1p-sn1xCD5Xpw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6LZ8i1DGnrnHmAHubfPiUy_Bha_2G_RP8Kgp0pOWxmpL= g8arBu_6BERdNtE-mwrkOLAqU5ufaxDBRD1p-sn1DnMwU0Q$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 3 23:27:06 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 032326
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    626 PM EST Sun Nov 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND THE OZARKS...

    ...Southern Plains and the Ozarks...
    The axis of heaviest rainfall expected across Oklahoma and=20
    Arkansas and southern Missouri tonight into early Monday morning.=20
    A longwave trough over the Southwest is shifting eastward.=20
    Embedded shortwave disturbances as well as a developing 90 kt jet=20
    streak will move over the region through tonight. A well-=20
    established low level jet (LLJ) will continue to advect plentiful=20
    Gulf moisture northward into the area. The result will be training
    bands of storms in OK/AR and into MO. Soils across OK, AR, into=20
    southern Missouri have been saturating due to recent heavy rainfall.
    This is likely to cause widely scattered to scattered instances of
    flash flooding.

    Given the plentiful moisture, training storms, saturating soils, and
    some flood prone areas, the heavy rain could cause localized flash
    flooding. The Ozarks remain in the highest risk area. The=20
    topography will help to focus the heavy rainfall into the=20
    valleys...which could result in rapid river, stream and creek=20
    rises. This also locally increases the flash flooding threat as=20
    compared to the same amount of rain falling over relatively flat=20
    terrain. Flash flooding remains likely as amounts could locally=20
    exceed 5 inches. Changes to the inherited risk areas were minor.


    ...Upper Midwest...
    In the upper Midwest, the eastward shift in the guidance and a=20
    more west to east movement of the expected convection should limit=20
    how much instability and moisture reach the upper Mississippi=20
    Valley. It's likely any remaining convection will be in a much=20
    weakened state by the time the rain reaches this area. Since=20
    similarly dry conditions and drought have impacted the upper Great=20
    Lakes in recent weeks, the largely stratiform nature of the rain=20
    should mean all of the rain will be beneficial with no flooding=20
    concerns noted. Changes to the inherited risk area were minor.

    Roth/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH PORTIONS OF WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    20Z Update: Changes were few and far between for the D2 ERO with
    the primary deviation being a slight shift eastward with the risk
    areas given the latest trends within the forecast precip. A
    secondary area of development over the course the evening into
    tomorrow morning will generate another outflow dominant convective
    pattern with a general expansion of the precip further to the north
    and east leading to areas downstream in the Ozarks becoming the
    benefactor of the heaviest precip. There's a strong consensus for
    heavy rain totals exceeding 3" across the above area with a the 12z
    HREF neighborhood probabilities exceeding 70% for the >3" threshold
    extending from Southeast OK up through Northwest and North-Central
    AR into Southeastern MO. EAS probabilities follow suit with an axis
    of 50+% of >2" probs located over the same area with a 20-30% for
    3" encompassing a good portion of the Ozarks. The antecedent
    conditions leading in are relatively dry in the grand scheme with
    the NASA SPoRT indicators leveling off the soil moisture
    percentiles below 40% for much of the area anticipating heavy rain.
    The more complex terrain does offer a slightly better risk than
    typical compared to areas in the plains, so the prospects are
    within the higher end of the SLGT risk margin, but just outside the
    MDT risk upgrade for the time being. Pending the evolution of the
    activity tonight, an upgrade may be necessary, targeting locations
    likely centered over Northwest AR into Southern MO. Will continue
    to monitor the situation closely as it evolves.

    ..Previous Forecast..

    Few changes were made or needed to the Slight Risk area across the
    middle of the country.

    A deep longwave trough will continue move eastward but begin to
    weaken and lift northward back into the jet stream on Monday. As it
    does so, associated jet streaks will intensify downstream of the
    trough, which will support its deamplification. The LLJ that has
    been supplying Gulf moisture will also elongate towards the north
    reaching as far north as lower Michigan by Monday. This will cause
    the resultant moisture to focus in a SSW to NNE corridor from Texas
    to Michigan. Unidirectional SSW flow will support training
    thunderstorms. The strongest storms are expected from Texas through
    Missouri, which will have access to the greatest Gulf instability
    and moisture. The storms will gradually weaken the further north
    you go, but are expected to maintain their integrity into Wisconsin
    and Michigan. The topography of the Ozarks will further locally
    enhance rainfall totals due to some upslope support.

    Due to overlap with the rainfall footprint Monday with that
    expected today, there is some potential for a Moderate Risk upgrade
    from western Arkansas into southern Missouri. However, this will be
    highly dependent on how much rain falls in that area today/Sunday.
    Total rainfall amounts will be somewhat lower on Monday as compared
    to Sunday, hence the importance of rain falling over the same areas
    as Sunday to enhance the flooding threat to Moderate Risk levels. Thus,
    the potential for an upgrade will continue to be evaluated.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    20Z Update: Very minor adjustments were made to the MRGL risk
    located across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys as the overall
    pattern and subsequent rainfall forecast maintained continuity from
    run-to-run. Areal average QPF runs between 1-2" for the period with
    the heaviest rainfall likely relegated over the Mid Mississippi
    Valley Tuesday morning and afternoon before petering out as the
    disturbance shifts eastward. Main threats will be relegated to
    mainly urban and small stream flooding with more isolated flash
    flood concerns in terms of an areal extent.

    ..Previous Forecast..

    By Tuesday, a progressive cold front pushing across the Mississippi
    Valley and associated upper level trough and shortwave will
    separate...with the upper shortwave ejecting northeastward into the
    Great Lakes, leaving the front behind. The combination of steady
    forward movement of the storms through the day followed by the
    rapid diminishing of any and all upper level support by Tuesday
    night will rapidly diminish the flooding threat as storm coverage
    and intensity also diminish. With some supply of Gulf moisture
    continuing on Tuesday, the storms that form through the day will
    still have enough punch to cause locally heavy rainfall. However,
    the eastward progression of the front should allow this rain to
    fall largely over areas that remain dry today/Sunday and Monday.
    Antecedent dry conditions will preclude much of the flooding threat
    by Tuesday, so only isolated flash flooding in urban and flood
    prone areas is anticipated. The Marginal Risk is largely unchanged
    from previous forecasts.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5Zoof50v4Zi-zW6yZ96iaR1VCVa8jUi5CcW5X7e2hQo= 3IXlunDMjQ9N5UGuwkSyt0AzalrVp-TtyelR_5jip9bbkvU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5Zoof50v4Zi-zW6yZ96iaR1VCVa8jUi5CcW5X7e2hQo= 3IXlunDMjQ9N5UGuwkSyt0AzalrVp-TtyelR_5jiJtlmiFA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5Zoof50v4Zi-zW6yZ96iaR1VCVa8jUi5CcW5X7e2hQo= 3IXlunDMjQ9N5UGuwkSyt0AzalrVp-TtyelR_5ji2uHtX28$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 040808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    308 AM EST Mon Nov 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM EASTERN TEXAS
    THROUGH WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    ...Changes...

    Only a few modest changes were made to the inherited forecast.
    There was a small southward nudge to the axis of heaviest rainfall
    around Lake Michigan, so the Slight risk area was trimmed some in
    Wisconsin and northern Lower Michigan in favor of a slightly
    expanded Slight in eastern Illinois and far northwestern Indiana.
    With some rain in portions of southeast Texas around Houston today,
    the expectation of feeder cells into the main plume of moisture,
    showers and storms further north warranted a small southward
    extension of the Slight to near Houston.
    A small Marginal risk was added to portions of east central New
    Mexico.

    ...Texas to the Great Lakes...

    A progressive trough over the Plains will continue tracking
    eastward towards the Mississippi Valley today. Plentiful shortwave
    energy and a strengthening southerly jet streak out ahead of the
    trough will both work to increase forcing across the entire Slight
    Risk area. The greatest lift and heaviest rainfall is expected from
    far southeastern Oklahoma northeast to around St. Louis. Since this
    area crosses the heart of the Ozarks, any upslope enhancement will
    locally increase rainfall rates. The topography of the area may
    also focus the flash flood potential in the valleys, further
    increasing the risk of impacts. Plentiful Gulf moisture moving
    north on a 40 kt LLJ will run into a developing surface low over
    the Plains. As this moisture runs ahead of the NE-moving low the
    combination of forcing and topography will enhance rainfall rates.
    While there has been some rain in this area from eastern Oklahoma,
    Arkansas, and southern Missouri, the heaviest rainfall amounts have
    generally been west of where the heaviest rains are expected today.
    This fact should mitigate the flood potential and impact somewhat.
    Nonetheless, 2 days of heavy rain with rates to 3 inches per hour
    in the strongest cells shows no signs of abating for today with all
    the aforementioned ingredients still in place. The progressive
    nature of the trough and resultant storms should also lessen the
    flood risk just a little. Thus, the Slight Risk inherited for this
    region continues to look good and no upgrades were considered. This
    corridor is highlighted in an internal higher-end Slight.

    Further south across Texas, there will be plentiful moisture but
    the forcing will both be transient and largely missing this area.
    Some rain fell today around Houston, so the threat is in the lower
    end Slight range as any storms that form, while isolated to widely
    scattered, will be capable of those higher end 3 inch per hour
    rates, which especially over any flood prone urban areas could
    cause flooding problems quickly.=20

    Meanwhile further north towards Lake Michigan, plentiful forcing
    will be in place but both instability and moisture amounts will be
    decreasing with latitude. Thus, expect more stratiform rain across
    this region...with much lower chances of the higher end rates. That
    said, the rain should be longer duration than the heavier rain
    further south, and for the Chicagoland area here too there will be
    urban considerations which bump the risk level into the Slight
    range.

    ...New Mexico...

    A leeside low currently over south central New Mexico will track
    northeast as several mesolows work to consolidate into a dominant
    single low over Texas and Oklahoma late today. With peak heating,
    some wraparound moisture and modest instability over an area with
    modestly depressed FFG values, steady rain with some convective
    cells ongoing over the area by this afternoon could result in an
    isolated flash flooding threat, particularly over any burn scars or
    other flood sensitive areas. Thus, a small Marginal Risk area was
    added with this update. Precipitation will be ongoing further north
    and into the mountains of southern Colorado but temperatures there
    will be cold enough for most if not all of the precip to fall as
    snow, precluding any flash flooding risk.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    No changes were made to the inherited Marginal Risk area.

    The upper level trough responsible for the past few days of heavy
    rain across the southern and central Plains will finally retreat
    back into the broader jet into Ontario and Quebec. The upper level
    energy supporting the corridor of storms will continue supporting
    storms across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys Tuesday and into
    Tuesday night respectively. As the energy lifts north, it will mark
    the end of persistent heavy rain and storms from south to north.
    Thus, the flooding threat will be more in the morning in Texas, and
    more towards the night for the Ohio Valley. Training lines of
    storms will move across the Mississippi Valley for much of the day.
    These storms will be capable of heavy rains which may cause
    isolated flash flooding, especially in any urban areas such as
    Memphis. By Tuesday night, weakening of the storms and the shift
    well away from any prior days' rain footprint will effectively end
    the flooding threat.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    Very few changes were needed to the inherited forecast.

    Deep tropical moisture will have overspread all of Florida and will
    be advancing into GA and SC at the start of the period Wednesday
    morning. A lingering front over the Southeast may act as a focus
    for convection across GA and SC as the deep tropical moisture moves
    north into the front. Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen (PTC18)
    is expected to move into the Gulf from Cuba and the northwest
    Caribbean as well. For the Florida Peninsula, much of the flooding
    threat will be determined by the eventual track of PTC18. The
    latest guidance has kept the center of PTC18 far enough west over
    the Gulf that despite shear pushing much of the rain associated
    therewith to the eastern side of the circulation, it will still
    largely remain offshore. However, with PWATs above 2.25 inches, it
    won't take much for daily convection to produce heavy rainfall
    almost anywhere in the state.=20

    A bullseye of heavier rain is currently forecast across central GA
    into SC. While the focus for the heavier rain will be the stalled
    out front, there is considerable uncertainty as to instability,
    which will greatly determine how strong any storms can get which
    could cause flooding. For now it appears much of the rain in GA/SC
    will be spread out through Wednesday and into Wednesday night,
    which should easily be handled by the antecedent dry conditions.
    Thus, the Marginal for this area remains in place with only minor
    tweaks made. The area will continue to be monitored for a potential
    Slight upgrade, which may not take much given the abundance of
    tropical moisture any storms would have to work with.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4qtbO8hj28TThZLWSQDfBT1KPiZfOa2kvtbv6q8G9UvH= c-Gkd4NnnXqfIFnJYv7egAMRmJot_g4UqZ-MeFAzbqSU0io$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4qtbO8hj28TThZLWSQDfBT1KPiZfOa2kvtbv6q8G9UvH= c-Gkd4NnnXqfIFnJYv7egAMRmJot_g4UqZ-MeFAz3ktyRWg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4qtbO8hj28TThZLWSQDfBT1KPiZfOa2kvtbv6q8G9UvH= c-Gkd4NnnXqfIFnJYv7egAMRmJot_g4UqZ-MeFAz3TbkrFQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 4 15:54:55 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 041554
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1054 AM EST Mon Nov 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE OZARKS OF ARKANSAS AND MISSOURI...

    ...Texas to the Great Lakes...

    16Z Update: Highly amplified flow ahead of a potent closed=20
    low/upper trough axis moving through the Western CONUS will=20
    continue to usher in well-above normal moisture anomalies from the=20
    Gulf Coast up through the Great Lakes during the period. Heavy=20
    rains overnight across OK into the AR/MO Ozarks have crashed FFG=20
    indices regionally with cases of hourly FFG's now down <1"/hr=20
    necessary to garner flash flood concerns. A widespread areal=20
    average of 2-4" with locally as high as 7" has fallen over the=20
    above area, saturating top layer soils up into the 70-85th=20
    percentile as indicated via the latest NASA SPoRT output for the=20
    0-10cm layer. Expectation is for the pattern to continue evolving=20
    as such that another wave of heavy precip will initiate upstream=20
    over OK as the nose of a 110kt 500mb jet streak rounds the base of=20
    the mean trough over NM and ejects into the Southern Plains. Large=20
    scale ascent will be maximized over within the time frame of 21z=20
    through the remainder of the period allowing for a large cluster of
    showers and storms to breakout and pivot east-northeast, aided by=20
    the mean flow. A theta-E tongue is well documented over Eastern TX=20
    through the Lower Mississippi Valley up through the the Missouri=20
    Ozarks lending to favorable instability continuing through the=20
    afternoon and evening time frames.=20

    CAMs have become aggressive with the QPF output given the
    aforementioned variables lending to a repeated pattern of heavy
    rainfall over areas that saw copious amounts of rain overnight.
    12z HREF signals a high end probability for at least 3" within the
    neighborhood probability fields (70-90+%) for the Ozarks down into
    the Southeast corner of OK and is correlated well with a 25-50% EAS
    prob field for 3" with a max prob of 60% centered over South-
    Central MO to the east of Springfield. HREF blended mean output is
    elevated with 3-5" of rainfall over those areas with a max of up to
    7", all of which is additional to what has transpired. Considering
    the expected additional rainfall with rates generally 1-2"/hr at
    peak intensity likely breaching the current FFG indicators for
    1/3/6 hr periods, and in coordination with the TSA/LZK/SHV/SGF WFOs
    impacted, a Moderate Risk ERO was introduced to cover that area
    from Southeast OK up through North and Northwest AR into South-
    Central MO.=20

    Further south into TX, there is a growing consensus of heavy
    thunderstorm genesis on the southern edge of the flanking line=20
    along the axis of convergence settling within the western edge of=20
    the theta-E gradient later this evening, mainly after the
    development of the nocturnal LLJ. The jet streak on the base of=20
    the mean trough under the closed low will be juxtaposed to the=20
    northwest of Central TX allowing for increasing RER dynamics within
    the confines of the I-35 corridor extending from DFW down into the
    Austin/San Antonio metros. There is consensus on the development=20
    of the flanking line, but exactly where the heaviest will occur=20
    depends on the CAM output. Some place the heavy core of precip near
    New Braunfels to San Antonio. Others place it near Austin to Waco.
    Regardless, the instability fields will be prime for any=20
    convective initiation with PWAT anomalies sufficiently above 2=20
    deviations above normal. These types of setups are sneaky with=20
    regards to potential, leading to an expansion of the SLGT risk to=20
    include much of that I-35 corridor and adjacent areas in the Hill=20
    Country to the west of the interstate.=20

    Consensus for locally heavy rainfall north of the Missouri Valley
    continues up into the Great Lakes as the low pressure progresses
    into the Midwest with the amplified flow ahead of the potent
    longwave trough. Lack of sufficient surface based instability caps
    the potential for significant rainfall totals to more of 1-2" with
    locally up to 3", but this would be enough to concern some urban
    flash flood threats for those areas extending through Illinois into
    Southeast WI into Western MI. The previous SLGT risk was maintained
    as a result with a MRGL risk encompassing.=20

    Kleebauer

    ...New Mexico...

    16Z Update: Very little change necessary for the previous MRGL risk
    over New Mexico as CAMs deviated very little from the overnight
    output. Heaviest rainfall concerns will be located within that
    northern periphery of the closed upper low pivoting eastward
    through the area as ascent remains maximized within the diffluent
    area north of the closed reflection, textbook synoptic scale
    evolution. Higher terrain will actually resolve as snow, so the
    main areas of concern will be the valleys and locales along the
    I-40 corridor.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Forecast..

    A leeside low currently over south central New Mexico will track
    northeast as several mesolows work to consolidate into a dominant
    single low over Texas and Oklahoma late today. With peak heating,
    some wraparound moisture and modest instability over an area with
    modestly depressed FFG values, steady rain with some convective
    cells ongoing over the area by this afternoon could result in an
    isolated flash flooding threat, particularly over any burn scars or
    other flood sensitive areas. Thus, a small Marginal Risk area was
    added with this update. Precipitation will be ongoing further north
    and into the mountains of southern Colorado but temperatures there
    will be cold enough for most if not all of the precip to fall as
    snow, precluding any flash flooding risk.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    No changes were made to the inherited Marginal Risk area.

    The upper level trough responsible for the past few days of heavy
    rain across the southern and central Plains will finally retreat
    back into the broader jet into Ontario and Quebec. The upper level
    energy supporting the corridor of storms will continue supporting
    storms across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys Tuesday and into
    Tuesday night respectively. As the energy lifts north, it will mark
    the end of persistent heavy rain and storms from south to north.
    Thus, the flooding threat will be more in the morning in Texas, and
    more towards the night for the Ohio Valley. Training lines of
    storms will move across the Mississippi Valley for much of the day.
    These storms will be capable of heavy rains which may cause
    isolated flash flooding, especially in any urban areas such as
    Memphis. By Tuesday night, weakening of the storms and the shift
    well away from any prior days' rain footprint will effectively end
    the flooding threat.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    Very few changes were needed to the inherited forecast.

    Deep tropical moisture will have overspread all of Florida and will
    be advancing into GA and SC at the start of the period Wednesday
    morning. A lingering front over the Southeast may act as a focus
    for convection across GA and SC as the deep tropical moisture moves
    north into the front. Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen (PTC18)
    is expected to move into the Gulf from Cuba and the northwest
    Caribbean as well. For the Florida Peninsula, much of the flooding
    threat will be determined by the eventual track of PTC18. The
    latest guidance has kept the center of PTC18 far enough west over
    the Gulf that despite shear pushing much of the rain associated
    therewith to the eastern side of the circulation, it will still
    largely remain offshore. However, with PWATs above 2.25 inches, it
    won't take much for daily convection to produce heavy rainfall
    almost anywhere in the state.

    A bullseye of heavier rain is currently forecast across central GA
    into SC. While the focus for the heavier rain will be the stalled
    out front, there is considerable uncertainty as to instability,
    which will greatly determine how strong any storms can get which
    could cause flooding. For now it appears much of the rain in GA/SC
    will be spread out through Wednesday and into Wednesday night,
    which should easily be handled by the antecedent dry conditions.
    Thus, the Marginal for this area remains in place with only minor
    tweaks made. The area will continue to be monitored for a potential
    Slight upgrade, which may not take much given the abundance of
    tropical moisture any storms would have to work with.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rsqJz5JQmuyOhOr-o08a_XA3ZM_En7YJfVLunnqBGNu= 0Q5ZlXVonjLFUna3nTiHS6oDLGE3S0Bc6ZZRN1F6hTAx4TY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rsqJz5JQmuyOhOr-o08a_XA3ZM_En7YJfVLunnqBGNu= 0Q5ZlXVonjLFUna3nTiHS6oDLGE3S0Bc6ZZRN1F6cSrVbjs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4rsqJz5JQmuyOhOr-o08a_XA3ZM_En7YJfVLunnqBGNu= 0Q5ZlXVonjLFUna3nTiHS6oDLGE3S0Bc6ZZRN1F6gPCnVaM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 4 19:53:54 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 041953
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    253 PM EST Mon Nov 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE OZARKS OF ARKANSAS AND MISSOURI...

    ...Texas to the Great Lakes...

    16Z Update: Highly amplified flow ahead of a potent closed
    low/upper trough axis moving through the Western CONUS will
    continue to usher in well-above normal moisture anomalies from the
    Gulf Coast up through the Great Lakes during the period. Heavy
    rains overnight across OK into the AR/MO Ozarks have crashed FFG
    indices regionally with cases of hourly FFG's now down <1"/hr
    necessary to garner flash flood concerns. A widespread areal
    average of 2-4" with locally as high as 7" has fallen over the
    above area, saturating top layer soils up into the 70-85th
    percentile as indicated via the latest NASA SPoRT output for the
    0-10cm layer. Expectation is for the pattern to continue evolving
    as such that another wave of heavy precip will initiate upstream
    over OK as the nose of a 110kt 500mb jet streak rounds the base of
    the mean trough over NM and ejects into the Southern Plains. Large
    scale ascent will be maximized over within the time frame of 21z
    through the remainder of the period allowing for a large cluster of
    showers and storms to breakout and pivot east-northeast, aided by
    the mean flow. A theta-E tongue is well documented over Eastern TX
    through the Lower Mississippi Valley up through the the Missouri
    Ozarks lending to favorable instability continuing through the
    afternoon and evening time frames.

    CAMs have become aggressive with the QPF output given the
    aforementioned variables lending to a repeated pattern of heavy
    rainfall over areas that saw copious amounts of rain overnight.
    12z HREF signals a high end probability for at least 3" within the
    neighborhood probability fields (70-90+%) for the Ozarks down into
    the Southeast corner of OK and is correlated well with a 25-50% EAS
    prob field for 3" with a max prob of 60% centered over South-
    Central MO to the east of Springfield. HREF blended mean output is
    elevated with 3-5" of rainfall over those areas with a max of up to
    7", all of which is additional to what has transpired. Considering
    the expected additional rainfall with rates generally 1-2"/hr at
    peak intensity likely breaching the current FFG indicators for
    1/3/6 hr periods, and in coordination with the TSA/LZK/SHV/SGF WFOs
    impacted, a Moderate Risk ERO was introduced to cover that area
    from Southeast OK up through North and Northwest AR into South-
    Central MO.

    Further south into TX, there is a growing consensus of heavy
    thunderstorm genesis on the southern edge of the flanking line
    along the axis of convergence settling within the western edge of
    the theta-E gradient later this evening, mainly after the
    development of the nocturnal LLJ. The jet streak on the base of
    the mean trough under the closed low will be juxtaposed to the
    northwest of Central TX allowing for increasing RER dynamics within
    the confines of the I-35 corridor extending from DFW down into the
    Austin/San Antonio metros. There is consensus on the development
    of the flanking line, but exactly where the heaviest will occur
    depends on the CAM output. Some place the heavy core of precip near
    New Braunfels to San Antonio. Others place it near Austin to Waco.
    Regardless, the instability fields will be prime for any
    convective initiation with PWAT anomalies sufficiently above 2
    deviations above normal. These types of setups are sneaky with
    regards to potential, leading to an expansion of the SLGT risk to
    include much of that I-35 corridor and adjacent areas in the Hill
    Country to the west of the interstate.

    Consensus for locally heavy rainfall north of the Missouri Valley
    continues up into the Great Lakes as the low pressure progresses
    into the Midwest with the amplified flow ahead of the potent
    longwave trough. Lack of sufficient surface based instability caps
    the potential for significant rainfall totals to more of 1-2" with
    locally up to 3", but this would be enough to concern some urban
    flash flood threats for those areas extending through Illinois into
    Southeast WI into Western MI. The previous SLGT risk was maintained
    as a result with a MRGL risk encompassing.

    Kleebauer

    ...New Mexico...

    16Z Update: Very little change necessary for the previous MRGL risk
    over New Mexico as CAMs deviated very little from the overnight
    output. Heaviest rainfall concerns will be located within that
    northern periphery of the closed upper low pivoting eastward
    through the area as ascent remains maximized within the diffluent
    area north of the closed reflection, textbook synoptic scale
    evolution. Higher terrain will actually resolve as snow, so the
    main areas of concern will be the valleys and locales along the
    I-40 corridor.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Forecast..

    A leeside low currently over south central New Mexico will track
    northeast as several mesolows work to consolidate into a dominant
    single low over Texas and Oklahoma late today. With peak heating,
    some wraparound moisture and modest instability over an area with
    modestly depressed FFG values, steady rain with some convective
    cells ongoing over the area by this afternoon could result in an
    isolated flash flooding threat, particularly over any burn scars or
    other flood sensitive areas. Thus, a small Marginal Risk area was
    added with this update. Precipitation will be ongoing further north
    and into the mountains of southern Colorado but temperatures there
    will be cold enough for most if not all of the precip to fall as
    snow, precluding any flash flooding risk.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    20Z Update: The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained as the
    overall synoptic pattern if forecast to decay somewhat, limiting
    the magnitude of heavy rainfall with regards to both rates and
    totals. A core of heavy rainfall is still anticipated, but the
    limiting factor of rates generally 1-1.5"/hr at peak intensity over
    an area that has seen very little rainfall for close to a month
    will inhibit significant flash flood concerns and relegate the
    setup to more of the isolated flash flood variety. The current
    ensemble means indicate the heaviest QPF footprint within the
    confines of the Lower to Mid-Mississippi Valley inflection areas
    encompassing Northeastern AR through Southeast MO and Western TN.
    Some of the CAMs are a bit bullish over areas like Memphis which
    could garner some flash flood interest even with the lower rates
    just due to the urbanization factors. Even still, FFG markers for
    the 1-hour time frame are running between 2.5-3"/hr over the area,
    so the threat will be mainly within the MRGL threshold and perhaps
    just missing out on the Slight Risk prospects with the dry
    antecedent conditions being the deciding factor. ARI exceedance
    probabilities are pretty tame with a 5-10% output within the latest
    HREF. This isn't exactly one that moves the needle to an upgrade,
    in agreement with the impacted WFO's. As a result, only minor=20
    adjustments were made to expand the risk area a touch further west=20
    and north, and to nudge a bit more in the Southeast flank as=20
    convective activity is likely over areas near Baton Rouge and=20
    points west.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Forecast..=20

    The upper level trough responsible for the past few days of heavy
    rain across the southern and central Plains will finally retreat
    back into the broader jet into Ontario and Quebec. The upper level
    energy supporting the corridor of storms will continue supporting
    storms across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys Tuesday and into
    Tuesday night respectively. As the energy lifts north, it will mark
    the end of persistent heavy rain and storms from south to north.
    Thus, the flooding threat will be more in the morning in Texas, and
    more towards the night for the Ohio Valley. Training lines of
    storms will move across the Mississippi Valley for much of the day.
    These storms will be capable of heavy rains which may cause
    isolated flash flooding, especially in any urban areas such as
    Memphis. By Tuesday night, weakening of the storms and the shift
    well away from any prior days' rain footprint will effectively end
    the flooding threat.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR CENTRAL AND
    EASTERN GEORGIA INTO PORTIONS OF WESTERN SOUTH CAROLINA...

    20z Update: Guidance continues to trend upwards with regards to the
    evolving heavy rain forecast across GA into the Western portions of
    SC for Wednesday. Deep tropical moisture advection will funnel out
    ahead of now Tropical Depression 18 (TD18), which will be a
    hurricane likely by the time of this forecast evolution. The
    moisture flux is caused by the proxy of the disturbance within the
    western fringes of a broad surface ridge located over the Western
    Atlantic providing a "highway" for the enhanced tropical moisture
    plume to funnel northward into parts of the Southeastern U.S. To
    the west, our longwave trough and closed low pattern will become
    sheared out with the cold front slowing and eventually becoming a quasi-stationary boundary once it enters the Ohio and Tennessee=20
    Valleys. A 130kt jet streak will be located over the Great Lakes=20
    into the Northeastern U.S providing a broad upper forcing pattern=20
    to transpire within the RER of the jet. This will help in=20
    initiation of precip across parts of GA into SC with some modest=20
    rainfall developing.=20

    As we work into Wednesday evening the boundary to the north will
    slowly drift into the Southeast with a developing convergence axis
    located over Central and Eastern GA into parts of the SC Piedmont
    leading to a broadening axis of steady precip with some increasing
    convective elements thanks to the unstable airmass that is
    advecting into the area. Several members of the global ensemble
    suite along with the bias corrected ensemble forecast indicate a
    substantial area of rainfall with totals >4" becoming focused
    within the greatest convergence axis along the slow frontal
    progression. With the high pressure stable in the Atlantic, a
    persistent easterly component to the wind field will only add to
    the convergence regime providing a prime focal point for slow-
    moving convection over the course of the overnight hours through
    Thursday morning. This setup can be characterized as a Predecessor
    Rainfall Event (PRE) that can develop well out ahead of an
    approaching tropical disturbance as it moves closer to CONUS. The
    key in all this is the tropical moisture advection that enhances
    the environment for more effective warm rain processes that aren't
    common within more mid-latitude cyclones and patterns. The
    interaction of the front and surface ridging will make all the
    difference on the specific locations that see the most rainfall. In
    this case, there's a growing consensus over Central and Eastern GA
    extending to the GA/SC line near Augusta.=20

    Considering the variables at play and the trend towards a more
    prolific rainfall event, a Slight Risk was introduced across the
    areas above with a MRGL risk extending through portions of the
    Southeast, including Florida where the proximity to the tropical
    disturbance will allow for some heavier convective prospects over
    the Peninsula. There is still some uncertainty on the exact
    location of the heaviest precip and PRE setup, so be sure to
    monitor the situation closely as the location of the higher risk
    could change, as well as an upgrade to a higher risk if the signal
    maintains magnitude and/or higher confidence in the potential.

    Kleebauer

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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6juNROXd3QOzlWNvKSYwIEU1cas0NltOfGffodxj6oiL= 5XlDBpIDUCxPqPTSLVX7BnnXHkIw0IL7TkaTnqNysafem4Y$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6juNROXd3QOzlWNvKSYwIEU1cas0NltOfGffodxj6oiL= 5XlDBpIDUCxPqPTSLVX7BnnXHkIw0IL7TkaTnqNyuAXeZqk$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 050055
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    755 PM EST Mon Nov 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE OZARKS OF ARKANSAS AND MISSOURI...

    ...01z Update...

    Little change needed with this update, as the Moderate Risk area
    remains on track with HRRR runs consistently depicting the risk for
    additional localized 5"+ totals centered over northwest AR through
    12z (coincident with the 18z HREF 40-km neighborhood probabilities
    for 5" exceedance of 15-25%). More numerous totals of 2-4" are=20
    expected across the Moderate Risk area (where FFGs generally range=20
    from 1.5-2.5"). Other than trimming the back-end of the risk areas=20
    (where the threat has ended), only minor adjustments were necessary.

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Texas to the Great Lakes...

    Highly amplified flow ahead of a potent closed low/upper trough=20
    axis moving through the Western CONUS will continue to usher in=20
    well-above normal moisture anomalies from the Gulf Coast up through
    the Great Lakes during the period. Heavy rains overnight across OK
    into the AR/MO Ozarks have crashed FFG indices regionally with=20
    cases of hourly FFG's now down <1"/hr necessary to garner flash=20
    flood concerns. A widespread areal average of 2-4" with locally as=20
    high as 7" has fallen over the above area, saturating top layer=20
    soils up into the 70-85th percentile as indicated via the latest=20
    NASA SPoRT output for the 0-10cm layer. Expectation is for the=20
    pattern to continue evolving as such that another wave of heavy=20
    precip will initiate upstream over OK as the nose of a 110kt 500mb=20
    jet streak rounds the base of the mean trough over NM and ejects=20
    into the Southern Plains. Large scale ascent will be maximized over
    within the time frame of 21z through the remainder of the period=20
    allowing for a large cluster of showers and storms to breakout and=20
    pivot east-northeast, aided by the mean flow. A theta-E tongue is=20
    well documented over Eastern TX through the Lower Mississippi=20
    Valley up through the the Missouri Ozarks lending to favorable=20
    instability continuing through the afternoon and evening time=20
    frames.

    CAMs have become aggressive with the QPF output given the
    aforementioned variables lending to a repeated pattern of heavy
    rainfall over areas that saw copious amounts of rain overnight.
    12z HREF signals a high end probability for at least 3" within the
    neighborhood probability fields (70-90+%) for the Ozarks down into
    the Southeast corner of OK and is correlated well with a 25-50% EAS
    prob field for 3" with a max prob of 60% centered over South-
    Central MO to the east of Springfield. HREF blended mean output is
    elevated with 3-5" of rainfall over those areas with a max of up to
    7", all of which is additional to what has transpired. Considering
    the expected additional rainfall with rates generally 1-2"/hr at
    peak intensity likely breaching the current FFG indicators for
    1/3/6 hr periods, and in coordination with the TSA/LZK/SHV/SGF WFOs
    impacted, a Moderate Risk ERO was introduced to cover that area
    from Southeast OK up through North and Northwest AR into South-
    Central MO.

    Further south into TX, there is a growing consensus of heavy
    thunderstorm genesis on the southern edge of the flanking line
    along the axis of convergence settling within the western edge of
    the theta-E gradient later this evening, mainly after the
    development of the nocturnal LLJ. The jet streak on the base of
    the mean trough under the closed low will be juxtaposed to the
    northwest of Central TX allowing for increasing RER dynamics within
    the confines of the I-35 corridor extending from DFW down into the
    Austin/San Antonio metros. There is consensus on the development
    of the flanking line, but exactly where the heaviest will occur
    depends on the CAM output. Some place the heavy core of precip near
    New Braunfels to San Antonio. Others place it near Austin to Waco.
    Regardless, the instability fields will be prime for any
    convective initiation with PWAT anomalies sufficiently above 2
    deviations above normal. These types of setups are sneaky with
    regards to potential, leading to an expansion of the SLGT risk to
    include much of that I-35 corridor and adjacent areas in the Hill
    Country to the west of the interstate.

    Consensus for locally heavy rainfall north of the Missouri Valley
    continues up into the Great Lakes as the low pressure progresses
    into the Midwest with the amplified flow ahead of the potent
    longwave trough. Lack of sufficient surface based instability caps
    the potential for significant rainfall totals to more of 1-2" with
    locally up to 3", but this would be enough to concern some urban
    flash flood threats for those areas extending through Illinois into
    Southeast WI into Western MI. The previous SLGT risk was maintained
    as a result with a MRGL risk encompassing.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    20Z Update: The previous MRGL risk was relatively maintained as the
    overall synoptic pattern if forecast to decay somewhat, limiting
    the magnitude of heavy rainfall with regards to both rates and
    totals. A core of heavy rainfall is still anticipated, but the
    limiting factor of rates generally 1-1.5"/hr at peak intensity over
    an area that has seen very little rainfall for close to a month
    will inhibit significant flash flood concerns and relegate the
    setup to more of the isolated flash flood variety. The current
    ensemble means indicate the heaviest QPF footprint within the
    confines of the Lower to Mid-Mississippi Valley inflection areas
    encompassing Northeastern AR through Southeast MO and Western TN.
    Some of the CAMs are a bit bullish over areas like Memphis which
    could garner some flash flood interest even with the lower rates
    just due to the urbanization factors. Even still, FFG markers for
    the 1-hour time frame are running between 2.5-3"/hr over the area,
    so the threat will be mainly within the MRGL threshold and perhaps
    just missing out on the Slight Risk prospects with the dry
    antecedent conditions being the deciding factor. ARI exceedance
    probabilities are pretty tame with a 5-10% output within the latest
    HREF. This isn't exactly one that moves the needle to an upgrade,
    in agreement with the impacted WFO's. As a result, only minor
    adjustments were made to expand the risk area a touch further west
    and north, and to nudge a bit more in the Southeast flank as
    convective activity is likely over areas near Baton Rouge and
    points west.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Forecast..

    The upper level trough responsible for the past few days of heavy
    rain across the southern and central Plains will finally retreat
    back into the broader jet into Ontario and Quebec. The upper level
    energy supporting the corridor of storms will continue supporting
    storms across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys Tuesday and into
    Tuesday night respectively. As the energy lifts north, it will mark
    the end of persistent heavy rain and storms from south to north.
    Thus, the flooding threat will be more in the morning in Texas, and
    more towards the night for the Ohio Valley. Training lines of
    storms will move across the Mississippi Valley for much of the day.
    These storms will be capable of heavy rains which may cause
    isolated flash flooding, especially in any urban areas such as
    Memphis. By Tuesday night, weakening of the storms and the shift
    well away from any prior days' rain footprint will effectively end
    the flooding threat.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR CENTRAL AND
    EASTERN GEORGIA INTO PORTIONS OF WESTERN SOUTH CAROLINA...

    20z Update: Guidance continues to trend upwards with regards to the
    evolving heavy rain forecast across GA into the Western portions of
    SC for Wednesday. Deep tropical moisture advection will funnel out
    ahead of now Tropical Depression 18 (TD18), which will be a
    hurricane likely by the time of this forecast evolution. The
    moisture flux is caused by the proxy of the disturbance within the
    western fringes of a broad surface ridge located over the Western
    Atlantic providing a "highway" for the enhanced tropical moisture
    plume to funnel northward into parts of the Southeastern U.S. To
    the west, our longwave trough and closed low pattern will become
    sheared out with the cold front slowing and eventually becoming a quasi-stationary boundary once it enters the Ohio and Tennessee
    Valleys. A 130kt jet streak will be located over the Great Lakes
    into the Northeastern U.S providing a broad upper forcing pattern
    to transpire within the RER of the jet. This will help in
    initiation of precip across parts of GA into SC with some modest
    rainfall developing.

    As we work into Wednesday evening the boundary to the north will
    slowly drift into the Southeast with a developing convergence axis
    located over Central and Eastern GA into parts of the SC Piedmont
    leading to a broadening axis of steady precip with some increasing
    convective elements thanks to the unstable airmass that is
    advecting into the area. Several members of the global ensemble
    suite along with the bias corrected ensemble forecast indicate a
    substantial area of rainfall with totals >4" becoming focused
    within the greatest convergence axis along the slow frontal
    progression. With the high pressure stable in the Atlantic, a
    persistent easterly component to the wind field will only add to
    the convergence regime providing a prime focal point for slow-
    moving convection over the course of the overnight hours through
    Thursday morning. This setup can be characterized as a Predecessor
    Rainfall Event (PRE) that can develop well out ahead of an
    approaching tropical disturbance as it moves closer to CONUS. The
    key in all this is the tropical moisture advection that enhances
    the environment for more effective warm rain processes that aren't
    common within more mid-latitude cyclones and patterns. The
    interaction of the front and surface ridging will make all the
    difference on the specific locations that see the most rainfall. In
    this case, there's a growing consensus over Central and Eastern GA
    extending to the GA/SC line near Augusta.

    Considering the variables at play and the trend towards a more
    prolific rainfall event, a Slight Risk was introduced across the
    areas above with a MRGL risk extending through portions of the
    Southeast, including Florida where the proximity to the tropical
    disturbance will allow for some heavier convective prospects over
    the Peninsula. There is still some uncertainty on the exact
    location of the heaviest precip and PRE setup, so be sure to
    monitor the situation closely as the location of the higher risk
    could change, as well as an upgrade to a higher risk if the signal
    maintains magnitude and/or higher confidence in the potential.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4echjguSa-36PJeqITqnlKnCIECgDq3gVeA9GK0KyIpY= rZv7v0Yi4LZAAtzI2z75Z4EzyXzvgH1vtB5hDjhmQP73Ny8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4echjguSa-36PJeqITqnlKnCIECgDq3gVeA9GK0KyIpY= rZv7v0Yi4LZAAtzI2z75Z4EzyXzvgH1vtB5hDjhmVHfP--8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4echjguSa-36PJeqITqnlKnCIECgDq3gVeA9GK0KyIpY= rZv7v0Yi4LZAAtzI2z75Z4EzyXzvgH1vtB5hDjhmp05aWx8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 5 08:24:28 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 050824
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 AM EST Tue Nov 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...

    A cold front tracking east across the middle of the country is
    expected to stall out generally along the Mississippi and Ohio
    Rivers late tonight. Southerly flow off the Gulf will continue
    pumping plentiful moisture into the front. Meanwhile, in the upper
    levels, a large longwave trough over the west will establish itself
    as a positively tilted trough by tonight as it digs southwestward
    over the Southwest. Before it does so, the last potent shortwave of
    the "old" trough will race northeastward into the Great Lakes as
    the leading edge of the trough becomes a roughly straight line
    southwesterly from the Southwest right through into eastern=20
    Canada.

    The potent shortwave and associated surface low will both race
    northeastward through the period. While they're over the upper
    Mississippi Valley, they will move the front currently stalled from
    Texas through Michigan eastward a bit to align with the Slight and
    Marginal Risk areas along the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. This
    will give the hard hit northwestern Arkansas region a break as the
    heaviest rain shifts east. However, by tonight, both features will
    be well into the Great Lakes and Canada, so the forcing pushing
    them east will quickly diminish, resulting in another stall-out of
    the front. With continuous Gulf moisture, another round of training thunderstorms is expected up the Mississippi and lower Ohio Rivers
    tonight. Given both the prior history of this front stalling as
    well as urban concerns in the Memphis area especially, a Slight
    Risk area was introduced with this update.=20

    Despite the stalled out front keeping the rainfall largely confined
    to a narrow corridor, the upper level forcing quickly weakening
    tonight should hold rates and coverage in check much better tonight
    as compared to the ongoing storms over Texas, Arkansas and Missouri
    right now. Thus, forecast rainfall amounts are considerably lower
    today and tonight than yesterday. The Slight is considered a
    "lower-end Slight" with any flash flooding impacts expected to be
    largely confined to low-lying flood prone areas and urban areas.
    Like areas further west, this area has also been very dry prior to
    this rainfall, so it will still take a prolonged period of heavy
    rainfall to result in flash flooding.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...

    A large plume of deep tropical moisture will overspread all of
    Florida and move into Georgia and South Carolina on Wednesday and
    Wednesday night. This same plume is home to T.S. Rafael down in the
    Caribbean. PWATs will increase to as high as 2.25 inches, meaning
    the storms expected to form will have plenty of moisture to convert
    to heavy rainfall. The front over the Ohio Valley is unlikely to
    play too much of a role in the storms over Georgia and South
    Carolina. Rather, the guidance suggests a secondary front will from
    at the leading edge of the moisture plume that will likely be
    enhanced by the right entrance region of the upper level jet=20
    streak, as well as possibly some upslope component (especially in=20
    South Carolina). Regardless of the primary lifting mechanism, there
    is good agreement in the guidance for an area of 3 to 5 inches of
    rain (though likely much higher amounts will be embedded) in the
    Slight Risk area, which is a small increase in amounts from the
    previous forecast.

    As with areas further west the past several days, this area has
    also been incredibly dry lately, with many areas not having seen
    appreciable rain in a month. For the swampy and sandy areas, this
    will mean it will take a lot of rain before runoff converts to
    flooding. Further north across interior SC and GA, the clay soils
    are likely quite hydrophobic due to the recent dry weather, which
    will notably increase runoff once the heavy rain gets started.
    Thus, locally increased impacts are possible. An internal higher-
    end Slight area was introduced for the peak rainfall area of east-
    central Georgia and west central South Carolina for this potential.

    Since this plume is home to T.S. Rafael, this would be considered a
    predecessor rain event (PRE) if Rafael were to head towards the Big
    Bend and GA/SC. However, since the latest forecasts keep Rafael
    tracking westward in the Gulf this rainfall event is not considered
    a PRE.=20

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Southeast...

    The cold front over the Appalachians that will drive the Day
    2/Wednesday rainfall event will move southward to coastal South
    Carolina and southern Georgia Thursday and Thursday night. The
    southerly flow of deep tropical moisture ahead of the front will
    abate somewhat in favor of a more neutral easterly flow. This will
    keep periods of heavy rain going...but both less widespread, less
    persistent, and less heavily. The core of heaviest rain will shift
    to the coast of SC/GA and north FL, but since most of this area is
    likely to not have seen substantive amounts of rain on Wednesday,
    and the coastal swamps can usually handle a lot of rainfall with
    few problems, have opted to keep the area in a Marginal Risk for
    this update. However, recent model trends have been for the
    heaviest rain to increase with time as the CAMs move into this
    period of time. Should that happen a Slight Risk will likely be
    necessary.

    ...Southern Plains...

    A potent upper level low will begin to eject out of the Southwest
    and into the southern Plains on Thursday. A strong cold front will
    develop as a result with plentiful snow into much of northeastern
    New Mexico. This area was trimmed from the Marginal Risk with this
    update. For the rest of the Marginal Risk area, some Gulf moisture
    will be captured and advected northward across north Texas and
    Oklahoma, but amounts will be somewhat limited. With only broad
    forcing from an upper level jet streak but few coherent features
    away from the strong cold front, the rainfall footprint will be
    broad and disorganized. This area has seen plentiful rainfall over
    the past few days, so the additional rainfall, while not much, may
    still cause isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6et4exlJfBDFxb0X8QtSsYBQfNjpfZiwWztCcwlqLvUc= gc9M1whR3w9v4X5_sTxiXb8bHnpU198Ml3BK1EvP88AtxYc$=20
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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6et4exlJfBDFxb0X8QtSsYBQfNjpfZiwWztCcwlqLvUc= gc9M1whR3w9v4X5_sTxiXb8bHnpU198Ml3BK1EvPkF6VaV0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 051542
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1042 AM EST Tue Nov 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...

    1600Z Update...

    Overall, modest changes made for the late-morning update to=20
    account for the latest 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR trends.=20
    There has been some overall tightening of the QPF gradient from the
    lower MS Valley up into the lower OH Valley for the late-day and=20
    overnight hours, but still a threat for a ribbon of locally heavy=20
    rainfall totals. This will include areas from northwest MS through=20
    western TN and western KY where the latest guidance still supports=20
    a 40 to 45 kt southerly low-level jet ahead of the cold front=20
    approaching the area, and thus a channel of rather strong moisture=20 transport. Instability though is overall expected to rather modest=20
    and this will likely tend to cut down on the rainfall rates of the=20
    areal shower and thunderstorm activity. Nevertheless, there may be=20
    some localized training of the convection this evening, especially=20
    in the 00Z to 06Z time period, and a few pockets of 2 to 3 inch=20
    rainfall totals will be possible.

    Based on this, the Slight Risk area has been maintained although=20
    adjusted just slightly off to the east and trimmed in areal extent
    to account for the 12Z HREF consensus. Given the eastward advance=20
    of the overall rainfall shield currently over the lower/middle MS=20
    Valley and southeast TX, the western portion of the Marginal Risk=20
    area has been trimmed away.

    Orrison


    Previous Discussion...

    A cold front tracking east across the middle of the country is=20
    expected to stall out generally along the Mississippi and Ohio=20
    Rivers late tonight. Southerly flow off the Gulf will continue=20
    pumping plentiful moisture into the front. Meanwhile, in the upper=20
    levels, a large longwave trough over the west will establish itself
    as a positively tilted trough by tonight as it digs southwestward=20
    over the Southwest. Before it does so, the last potent shortwave of
    the "old" trough will race northeastward into the Great Lakes as=20
    the leading edge of the trough becomes a roughly straight line=20
    southwesterly from the Southwest right through into eastern Canada.

    The potent shortwave and associated surface low will both race
    northeastward through the period. While they're over the upper
    Mississippi Valley, they will move the front currently stalled from
    Texas through Michigan eastward a bit to align with the Slight and
    Marginal Risk areas along the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. This
    will give the hard hit northwestern Arkansas region a break as the
    heaviest rain shifts east. However, by tonight, both features will
    be well into the Great Lakes and Canada, so the forcing pushing
    them east will quickly diminish, resulting in another stall-out of
    the front. With continuous Gulf moisture, another round of training thunderstorms is expected up the Mississippi and lower Ohio Rivers
    tonight. Given both the prior history of this front stalling as
    well as urban concerns in the Memphis area especially, a Slight
    Risk area was introduced with this update.

    Despite the stalled out front keeping the rainfall largely confined
    to a narrow corridor, the upper level forcing quickly weakening
    tonight should hold rates and coverage in check much better tonight
    as compared to the ongoing storms over Texas, Arkansas and Missouri
    right now. Thus, forecast rainfall amounts are considerably lower
    today and tonight than yesterday. The Slight is considered a
    "lower-end Slight" with any flash flooding impacts expected to be
    largely confined to low-lying flood prone areas and urban areas.
    Like areas further west, this area has also been very dry prior to
    this rainfall, so it will still take a prolonged period of heavy
    rainfall to result in flash flooding.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...

    A large plume of deep tropical moisture will overspread all of
    Florida and move into Georgia and South Carolina on Wednesday and
    Wednesday night. This same plume is home to T.S. Rafael down in the
    Caribbean. PWATs will increase to as high as 2.25 inches, meaning
    the storms expected to form will have plenty of moisture to convert
    to heavy rainfall. The front over the Ohio Valley is unlikely to
    play too much of a role in the storms over Georgia and South
    Carolina. Rather, the guidance suggests a secondary front will from
    at the leading edge of the moisture plume that will likely be
    enhanced by the right entrance region of the upper level jet
    streak, as well as possibly some upslope component (especially in
    South Carolina). Regardless of the primary lifting mechanism, there
    is good agreement in the guidance for an area of 3 to 5 inches of
    rain (though likely much higher amounts will be embedded) in the
    Slight Risk area, which is a small increase in amounts from the
    previous forecast.

    As with areas further west the past several days, this area has
    also been incredibly dry lately, with many areas not having seen
    appreciable rain in a month. For the swampy and sandy areas, this
    will mean it will take a lot of rain before runoff converts to
    flooding. Further north across interior SC and GA, the clay soils
    are likely quite hydrophobic due to the recent dry weather, which
    will notably increase runoff once the heavy rain gets started.
    Thus, locally increased impacts are possible. An internal higher-
    end Slight area was introduced for the peak rainfall area of east-
    central Georgia and west central South Carolina for this potential.

    Since this plume is home to T.S. Rafael, this would be considered a
    predecessor rain event (PRE) if Rafael were to head towards the Big
    Bend and GA/SC. However, since the latest forecasts keep Rafael
    tracking westward in the Gulf this rainfall event is not considered
    a PRE.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Southeast...

    The cold front over the Appalachians that will drive the Day
    2/Wednesday rainfall event will move southward to coastal South
    Carolina and southern Georgia Thursday and Thursday night. The
    southerly flow of deep tropical moisture ahead of the front will
    abate somewhat in favor of a more neutral easterly flow. This will
    keep periods of heavy rain going...but both less widespread, less
    persistent, and less heavily. The core of heaviest rain will shift
    to the coast of SC/GA and north FL, but since most of this area is
    likely to not have seen substantive amounts of rain on Wednesday,
    and the coastal swamps can usually handle a lot of rainfall with
    few problems, have opted to keep the area in a Marginal Risk for
    this update. However, recent model trends have been for the
    heaviest rain to increase with time as the CAMs move into this
    period of time. Should that happen a Slight Risk will likely be
    necessary.

    ...Southern Plains...

    A potent upper level low will begin to eject out of the Southwest
    and into the southern Plains on Thursday. A strong cold front will
    develop as a result with plentiful snow into much of northeastern
    New Mexico. This area was trimmed from the Marginal Risk with this
    update. For the rest of the Marginal Risk area, some Gulf moisture
    will be captured and advected northward across north Texas and
    Oklahoma, but amounts will be somewhat limited. With only broad
    forcing from an upper level jet streak but few coherent features
    away from the strong cold front, the rainfall footprint will be
    broad and disorganized. This area has seen plentiful rainfall over
    the past few days, so the additional rainfall, while not much, may
    still cause isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!78p9zQSmpT4dFwo10Vc2c_4MIz9XH57Ot_F61efhaFMw= 6C4VzxceSmvg79SuVcBWBnrh6HoGrDW93nAfDn8PzSGXJwU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!78p9zQSmpT4dFwo10Vc2c_4MIz9XH57Ot_F61efhaFMw= 6C4VzxceSmvg79SuVcBWBnrh6HoGrDW93nAfDn8PZ8Gdas8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!78p9zQSmpT4dFwo10Vc2c_4MIz9XH57Ot_F61efhaFMw= 6C4VzxceSmvg79SuVcBWBnrh6HoGrDW93nAfDn8PGu2h2Eo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 5 19:49:27 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 051949
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    249 PM EST Tue Nov 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...

    1600Z Update...

    Overall, modest changes made for the late-morning update to
    account for the latest 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR trends.
    There has been some overall tightening of the QPF gradient from the
    lower MS Valley up into the lower OH Valley for the late-day and
    overnight hours, but still a threat for a ribbon of locally heavy
    rainfall totals. This will include areas from northwest MS through
    western TN and western KY where the latest guidance still supports
    a 40 to 45 kt southerly low-level jet ahead of the cold front
    approaching the area, and thus a channel of rather strong moisture
    transport. Instability though is overall expected to rather modest
    and this will likely tend to cut down on the rainfall rates of the
    areal shower and thunderstorm activity. Nevertheless, there may be
    some localized training of the convection this evening, especially
    in the 00Z to 06Z time period, and a few pockets of 2 to 3 inch
    rainfall totals will be possible.

    Based on this, the Slight Risk area has been maintained although
    adjusted just slightly off to the east and trimmed in areal extent
    to account for the 12Z HREF consensus. Given the eastward advance
    of the overall rainfall shield currently over the lower/middle MS
    Valley and southeast TX, the western portion of the Marginal Risk
    area has been trimmed away.

    Orrison


    Previous Discussion...

    A cold front tracking east across the middle of the country is
    expected to stall out generally along the Mississippi and Ohio
    Rivers late tonight. Southerly flow off the Gulf will continue
    pumping plentiful moisture into the front. Meanwhile, in the upper
    levels, a large longwave trough over the west will establish itself
    as a positively tilted trough by tonight as it digs southwestward
    over the Southwest. Before it does so, the last potent shortwave of
    the "old" trough will race northeastward into the Great Lakes as
    the leading edge of the trough becomes a roughly straight line
    southwesterly from the Southwest right through into eastern Canada.

    The potent shortwave and associated surface low will both race
    northeastward through the period. While they're over the upper
    Mississippi Valley, they will move the front currently stalled from
    Texas through Michigan eastward a bit to align with the Slight and
    Marginal Risk areas along the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. This
    will give the hard hit northwestern Arkansas region a break as the
    heaviest rain shifts east. However, by tonight, both features will
    be well into the Great Lakes and Canada, so the forcing pushing
    them east will quickly diminish, resulting in another stall-out of
    the front. With continuous Gulf moisture, another round of training thunderstorms is expected up the Mississippi and lower Ohio Rivers
    tonight. Given both the prior history of this front stalling as
    well as urban concerns in the Memphis area especially, a Slight
    Risk area was introduced with this update.

    Despite the stalled out front keeping the rainfall largely confined
    to a narrow corridor, the upper level forcing quickly weakening
    tonight should hold rates and coverage in check much better tonight
    as compared to the ongoing storms over Texas, Arkansas and Missouri
    right now. Thus, forecast rainfall amounts are considerably lower
    today and tonight than yesterday. The Slight is considered a
    "lower-end Slight" with any flash flooding impacts expected to be
    largely confined to low-lying flood prone areas and urban areas.
    Like areas further west, this area has also been very dry prior to
    this rainfall, so it will still take a prolonged period of heavy
    rainfall to result in flash flooding.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...

    20z Update: Main change to the inherited risk areas was to expand=20
    the Slight risk to the GA/SC coast. Overall guidance is split on=20
    where convergence will be maximized, with the GFS/ECMWF and a=20
    couple HREF members inland over GA and SC, the HRRR and Gem Reg=20
    more towards the coast, and the ECMWF AIFS in between. Confidence=20
    in which model camp is right remains low...thus the Slight risk was
    expanded to include both possible outcomes. Overall still think=20
    this event has some higher end potential along a narrow axis. The=20
    dry antecedent conditions will initially limit the flood=20
    risk...however the ingredients are there to overcome this wherever=20 convergence can be maximized for the longest time. Could eventually
    need a targeted MDT risk, but given continued uncertainty with the
    axis of max rainfall, think a Slight should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A large plume of deep tropical moisture will overspread all of
    Florida and move into Georgia and South Carolina on Wednesday and
    Wednesday night. This same plume is home to T.S. Rafael down in the
    Caribbean. PWATs will increase to as high as 2.25 inches, meaning
    the storms expected to form will have plenty of moisture to convert
    to heavy rainfall. The front over the Ohio Valley is unlikely to
    play too much of a role in the storms over Georgia and South
    Carolina. Rather, the guidance suggests a secondary front will from
    at the leading edge of the moisture plume that will likely be
    enhanced by the right entrance region of the upper level jet
    streak, as well as possibly some upslope component (especially in
    South Carolina). Regardless of the primary lifting mechanism, there
    is good agreement in the guidance for an area of 3 to 5 inches of
    rain (though likely much higher amounts will be embedded) in the
    Slight Risk area, which is a small increase in amounts from the
    previous forecast.

    As with areas further west the past several days, this area has
    also been incredibly dry lately, with many areas not having seen
    appreciable rain in a month. For the swampy and sandy areas, this
    will mean it will take a lot of rain before runoff converts to
    flooding. Further north across interior SC and GA, the clay soils
    are likely quite hydrophobic due to the recent dry weather, which
    will notably increase runoff once the heavy rain gets started.
    Thus, locally increased impacts are possible. An internal higher-
    end Slight area was introduced for the peak rainfall area of east-
    central Georgia and west central South Carolina for this potential.

    Since this plume is home to T.S. Rafael, this would be considered a
    predecessor rain event (PRE) if Rafael were to head towards the Big
    Bend and GA/SC. However, since the latest forecasts keep Rafael
    tracking westward in the Gulf this rainfall event is not considered
    a PRE.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Only minimal changes to the inherited Marginal risk=20
    areas. Outer banding east of Rafael could be scraping the Gulf=20
    Coast of FL, although lingering uncertainty with exactly how close
    the system will track to the coast. Likely to have ongoing=20
    convection over portions of GA/SC and depending on what happens on
    day 2 could eventually need a Slight risk for the morning=20
    hours. However the peak of the heaviest rainfall should be=20
    Wednesday afternoon and night, with activity on a downward trend=20
    Thursday. So for now will stick with the Marginal and continue to=20
    monitor.

    Over the southern Plains models are trending a bit slower and south
    with the mid/upper low. The GFS (which had been an outlier) had=20
    the biggest jump, with the 12z run now more in line with the rest=20
    of the models. However there still may be room for a slower and=20
    further south solution...with both the UKMET and ECMWF AIFS showing
    something slower/south. Do think the ingredients in place will=20
    eventually support a Slight risk, but given the lingering=20
    uncertainty with placement opted to hold things at Marginal for=20
    now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    The cold front over the Appalachians that will drive the Day
    2/Wednesday rainfall event will move southward to coastal South
    Carolina and southern Georgia Thursday and Thursday night. The
    southerly flow of deep tropical moisture ahead of the front will
    abate somewhat in favor of a more neutral easterly flow. This will
    keep periods of heavy rain going...but both less widespread, less
    persistent, and less heavily. The core of heaviest rain will shift
    to the coast of SC/GA and north FL, but since most of this area is
    likely to not have seen substantive amounts of rain on Wednesday,
    and the coastal swamps can usually handle a lot of rainfall with
    few problems, have opted to keep the area in a Marginal Risk for
    this update. However, recent model trends have been for the
    heaviest rain to increase with time as the CAMs move into this
    period of time. Should that happen a Slight Risk will likely be
    necessary.

    ...Southern Plains...

    A potent upper level low will begin to eject out of the Southwest
    and into the southern Plains on Thursday. A strong cold front will
    develop as a result with plentiful snow into much of northeastern
    New Mexico. This area was trimmed from the Marginal Risk with this
    update. For the rest of the Marginal Risk area, some Gulf moisture
    will be captured and advected northward across north Texas and
    Oklahoma, but amounts will be somewhat limited. With only broad
    forcing from an upper level jet streak but few coherent features
    away from the strong cold front, the rainfall footprint will be
    broad and disorganized. This area has seen plentiful rainfall over
    the past few days, so the additional rainfall, while not much, may
    still cause isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-GPFX5mZi78XCAsackrNaNP_KASJRWb5ET5PH0o6BTAO= AgeWTbX2njSxeXtCi3XXHZorabv7HIk_PjZYFjhpOaROrLM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-GPFX5mZi78XCAsackrNaNP_KASJRWb5ET5PH0o6BTAO= AgeWTbX2njSxeXtCi3XXHZorabv7HIk_PjZYFjhpGNEH8kM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-GPFX5mZi78XCAsackrNaNP_KASJRWb5ET5PH0o6BTAO= AgeWTbX2njSxeXtCi3XXHZorabv7HIk_PjZYFjhpQXbgROc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 6 00:52:08 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 060051
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    751 PM EST Tue Nov 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...

    ...01z Update...

    Little change needed to the inherited Slight Risk for overnight, as
    the expectation for localized 2-3" totals remains on track. The
    edges of the Slight and Marginal Risk areas were adjusted a bit,
    based on observational and model trends.=20

    Churchill


    ...1600Z Update...

    Overall, modest changes made for the late-morning update to
    account for the latest 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR trends.
    There has been some overall tightening of the QPF gradient from the
    lower MS Valley up into the lower OH Valley for the late-day and
    overnight hours, but still a threat for a ribbon of locally heavy
    rainfall totals. This will include areas from northwest MS through
    western TN and western KY where the latest guidance still supports
    a 40 to 45 kt southerly low-level jet ahead of the cold front
    approaching the area, and thus a channel of rather strong moisture
    transport. Instability though is overall expected to rather modest
    and this will likely tend to cut down on the rainfall rates of the
    areal shower and thunderstorm activity. Nevertheless, there may be
    some localized training of the convection this evening, especially
    in the 00Z to 06Z time period, and a few pockets of 2 to 3 inch
    rainfall totals will be possible.

    Based on this, the Slight Risk area has been maintained although
    adjusted just slightly off to the east and trimmed in areal extent
    to account for the 12Z HREF consensus. Given the eastward advance
    of the overall rainfall shield currently over the lower/middle MS
    Valley and southeast TX, the western portion of the Marginal Risk
    area has been trimmed away.

    Orrison


    ...Previous Discussion...

    A cold front tracking east across the middle of the country is
    expected to stall out generally along the Mississippi and Ohio
    Rivers late tonight. Southerly flow off the Gulf will continue
    pumping plentiful moisture into the front. Meanwhile, in the upper
    levels, a large longwave trough over the west will establish itself
    as a positively tilted trough by tonight as it digs southwestward
    over the Southwest. Before it does so, the last potent shortwave of
    the "old" trough will race northeastward into the Great Lakes as
    the leading edge of the trough becomes a roughly straight line
    southwesterly from the Southwest right through into eastern Canada.

    The potent shortwave and associated surface low will both race
    northeastward through the period. While they're over the upper
    Mississippi Valley, they will move the front currently stalled from
    Texas through Michigan eastward a bit to align with the Slight and
    Marginal Risk areas along the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. This
    will give the hard hit northwestern Arkansas region a break as the
    heaviest rain shifts east. However, by tonight, both features will
    be well into the Great Lakes and Canada, so the forcing pushing
    them east will quickly diminish, resulting in another stall-out of
    the front. With continuous Gulf moisture, another round of training thunderstorms is expected up the Mississippi and lower Ohio Rivers
    tonight. Given both the prior history of this front stalling as
    well as urban concerns in the Memphis area especially, a Slight
    Risk area was introduced with this update.

    Despite the stalled out front keeping the rainfall largely confined
    to a narrow corridor, the upper level forcing quickly weakening
    tonight should hold rates and coverage in check much better tonight
    as compared to the ongoing storms over Texas, Arkansas and Missouri
    right now. Thus, forecast rainfall amounts are considerably lower
    today and tonight than yesterday. The Slight is considered a
    "lower-end Slight" with any flash flooding impacts expected to be
    largely confined to low-lying flood prone areas and urban areas.
    Like areas further west, this area has also been very dry prior to
    this rainfall, so it will still take a prolonged period of heavy
    rainfall to result in flash flooding.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...

    20z Update: Main change to the inherited risk areas was to expand
    the Slight risk to the GA/SC coast. Overall guidance is split on
    where convergence will be maximized, with the GFS/ECMWF and a
    couple HREF members inland over GA and SC, the HRRR and Gem Reg
    more towards the coast, and the ECMWF AIFS in between. Confidence
    in which model camp is right remains low...thus the Slight risk was
    expanded to include both possible outcomes. Overall still think
    this event has some higher end potential along a narrow axis. The
    dry antecedent conditions will initially limit the flood
    risk...however the ingredients are there to overcome this wherever
    convergence can be maximized for the longest time. Could eventually
    need a targeted MDT risk, but given continued uncertainty with the
    axis of max rainfall, think a Slight should suffice for now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A large plume of deep tropical moisture will overspread all of
    Florida and move into Georgia and South Carolina on Wednesday and
    Wednesday night. This same plume is home to T.S. Rafael down in the
    Caribbean. PWATs will increase to as high as 2.25 inches, meaning
    the storms expected to form will have plenty of moisture to convert
    to heavy rainfall. The front over the Ohio Valley is unlikely to
    play too much of a role in the storms over Georgia and South
    Carolina. Rather, the guidance suggests a secondary front will from
    at the leading edge of the moisture plume that will likely be
    enhanced by the right entrance region of the upper level jet
    streak, as well as possibly some upslope component (especially in
    South Carolina). Regardless of the primary lifting mechanism, there
    is good agreement in the guidance for an area of 3 to 5 inches of
    rain (though likely much higher amounts will be embedded) in the
    Slight Risk area, which is a small increase in amounts from the
    previous forecast.

    As with areas further west the past several days, this area has
    also been incredibly dry lately, with many areas not having seen
    appreciable rain in a month. For the swampy and sandy areas, this
    will mean it will take a lot of rain before runoff converts to
    flooding. Further north across interior SC and GA, the clay soils
    are likely quite hydrophobic due to the recent dry weather, which
    will notably increase runoff once the heavy rain gets started.
    Thus, locally increased impacts are possible. An internal higher-
    end Slight area was introduced for the peak rainfall area of east-
    central Georgia and west central South Carolina for this potential.

    Since this plume is home to T.S. Rafael, this would be considered a
    predecessor rain event (PRE) if Rafael were to head towards the Big
    Bend and GA/SC. However, since the latest forecasts keep Rafael
    tracking westward in the Gulf this rainfall event is not considered
    a PRE.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Only minimal changes to the inherited Marginal risk
    areas. Outer banding east of Rafael could be scraping the Gulf
    Coast of FL, although lingering uncertainty with exactly how close
    the system will track to the coast. Likely to have ongoing
    convection over portions of GA/SC and depending on what happens on
    day 2 could eventually need a Slight risk for the morning
    hours. However the peak of the heaviest rainfall should be
    Wednesday afternoon and night, with activity on a downward trend
    Thursday. So for now will stick with the Marginal and continue to
    monitor.

    Over the southern Plains models are trending a bit slower and south
    with the mid/upper low. The GFS (which had been an outlier) had
    the biggest jump, with the 12z run now more in line with the rest
    of the models. However there still may be room for a slower and
    further south solution...with both the UKMET and ECMWF AIFS showing
    something slower/south. Do think the ingredients in place will
    eventually support a Slight risk, but given the lingering
    uncertainty with placement opted to hold things at Marginal for
    now.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    The cold front over the Appalachians that will drive the Day
    2/Wednesday rainfall event will move southward to coastal South
    Carolina and southern Georgia Thursday and Thursday night. The
    southerly flow of deep tropical moisture ahead of the front will
    abate somewhat in favor of a more neutral easterly flow. This will
    keep periods of heavy rain going...but both less widespread, less
    persistent, and less heavily. The core of heaviest rain will shift
    to the coast of SC/GA and north FL, but since most of this area is
    likely to not have seen substantive amounts of rain on Wednesday,
    and the coastal swamps can usually handle a lot of rainfall with
    few problems, have opted to keep the area in a Marginal Risk for
    this update. However, recent model trends have been for the
    heaviest rain to increase with time as the CAMs move into this
    period of time. Should that happen a Slight Risk will likely be
    necessary.

    ...Southern Plains...

    A potent upper level low will begin to eject out of the Southwest
    and into the southern Plains on Thursday. A strong cold front will
    develop as a result with plentiful snow into much of northeastern
    New Mexico. This area was trimmed from the Marginal Risk with this
    update. For the rest of the Marginal Risk area, some Gulf moisture
    will be captured and advected northward across north Texas and
    Oklahoma, but amounts will be somewhat limited. With only broad
    forcing from an upper level jet streak but few coherent features
    away from the strong cold front, the rainfall footprint will be
    broad and disorganized. This area has seen plentiful rainfall over
    the past few days, so the additional rainfall, while not much, may
    still cause isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aLzdgNXd9cMNSJoMESFKHyE-uGIdMeKnOYleKgGNy1s= ZxjYiMegJTrWfOdrrvD0Tlr3hLFYs_zIoEcpHsdu6uXCo74$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aLzdgNXd9cMNSJoMESFKHyE-uGIdMeKnOYleKgGNy1s= ZxjYiMegJTrWfOdrrvD0Tlr3hLFYs_zIoEcpHsduDl2dF0E$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5aLzdgNXd9cMNSJoMESFKHyE-uGIdMeKnOYleKgGNy1s= ZxjYiMegJTrWfOdrrvD0Tlr3hLFYs_zIoEcpHsdu2-NsLew$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 060823
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    323 AM EST Wed Nov 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    In coordination with CAE/Columbia, SC and FFC/Peachtree City, GA
    forecast offices, a Moderate Risk upgrade was introduced with this
    update.

    A plume of deep tropical moisture, indirectly associated with
    Hurricane Rafael will continue overspreading portions of the
    Southeast today. The moisture plume will run into a developing
    front over Georgia and South Carolina. An upper level jet streak
    will add lift to the atmosphere. Late today into this evening, the
    nocturnal low level jet's strengthening will kick the moisture=20
    advection into high gear. Frontogenesis occurring over Georgia and
    South Carolina will act to focus the heavy rain over the narrow
    Moderate Risk corridor. Expect training convection to develop
    during the evening which will persist through the overnight and
    while slowly weakening in the pre-dawn hours, is likely to continue
    into western South Carolina into Day 2/Thursday.=20

    HREF probabilities show a 20 to 25 percent chance of a 100 year
    rainfall event in the Moderate Risk area. FFGs are very high in the
    area due to recent dry conditions with only very light rain. This
    has likely made some of the clay soils quite hydrophobic. The
    hydrophobic soils will likely increase the runoff from the heavy
    rain, which will likely quickly exceed FFGs as the heavy rain
    likely persists for multiple hours.=20

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR MUCH OF THE TEXAS PANHANDLE AND WESTERN
    OKLAHOMA...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain will be ongoing across Georgia and especially South
    Carolina at the start of the period Thursday morning. While the
    rainfall will be diminishing in intensity, it's expected after the
    much heavier rains of Wednesday night, that the lighter totals
    forecast for Thursday will still be influential since antecedent
    conditions will be radically different by then as compared to where
    they are now. The Slight Risk threat largely is for the Thursday
    morning period with lingering rainfall from Wednesday night. Expect
    the rain to continue diminishing through the day as the moisture=20
    plume shifts westward with Hurricane Rafael.=20

    ...Texas Panhandle and Western Oklahoma...

    A positively tilted longwave trough and associated upper level=20
    energy in the form of jet streaks and shortwave energy will support
    the development of a strong low over the southern Plains. To the
    west, a significant amount of the low's moisture will fall in the=20
    form of snow. Where the precipitation will remain as rain, expect
    steady heavy rain across the Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma.
    While rates are not generally expected to be notably heavy, the
    flood threat will be primarily focused on the long duration of
    steady rain, as well as the fact that much of this area was hit
    very hard with heavy rain a few days ago, so soils and rivers
    remain elevated in this region. Thus, low FFGs support the Slight
    Risk upgrade.=20

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest will eject into the Plains
    on Friday. There will be significant upper level energy associated
    with the low, which combined with strong frontogenesis, plentiful
    Gulf moisture advecting up the Plains on the low level jet, and a
    strengthening surface low...expect heavier rainfall amounts across
    Oklahoma and Kansas on Friday as compared with Wednesday. While
    north Kansas didn't see as much rain a few days back compared with
    areas further south...much of the rest of the Slight risk area does
    overlap with both the heavy rain from a few days ago but continued
    rainfall from Day 2/Thursday. Thus, added an internal higher-end
    Slight for western Oklahoma into south Kansas. Depending on how
    much rain the area gets on Day 2, there is some potential for a
    Moderate Risk upgrade in this area with future updates.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!74Y8Ry1F0J7LgYfzofgh_bd-sNiaU-mrb4vmFnvw9MmF= IIFD8iCbaXVwJpKv1GsbBhMYNh-i4WBhkKWfbzznUoxWxqg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!74Y8Ry1F0J7LgYfzofgh_bd-sNiaU-mrb4vmFnvw9MmF= IIFD8iCbaXVwJpKv1GsbBhMYNh-i4WBhkKWfbzznlxc48aA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!74Y8Ry1F0J7LgYfzofgh_bd-sNiaU-mrb4vmFnvw9MmF= IIFD8iCbaXVwJpKv1GsbBhMYNh-i4WBhkKWfbzznAI-BxJM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 061555
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1055 AM EST Wed Nov 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    1600Z Update...

    A Marginal Risk area has been added to portions of central to
    northeast LA and also a small part of southwest MS to account for
    the ongoing slow-moving areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms
    across the region that are focusing along and out ahead of a
    quasi-stationary front. Please consult MPD #1131 for more details
    on this. Convective trends across this region will continue to be
    closely monitored through the afternoon hours for additional
    convective development.

    Elsewhere, the 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR guidance continues
    to support the development and expansion of broken areas of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms across the interior of the Southeast
    beginning later this afternoon and heading into the overnight
    hours. However, there has been a trend to concentrate the heaviest
    convective rainfall threat a bit farther south and east and a bit
    deeper into the coastal plain of southern and eastern GA and the SC
    Lowcountry. Additionally, there are multiple HREF models that are
    quite heavy with the rainfall potential across parts of the FL
    Panhandle. Regionally, the potential exists for as much as 4 to 8
    inches of rain, with some isolated 10+ inch totals being supported
    by 12Z/Thursday. The 12Z HREF guidance shows 50 to 80 percent
    probabilities of seeing 5+ inches of rain from eastern parts of the
    FL Panhandle northeastward into the SC Lowcountry, and in a focused
    manner across parts of east-central GA and along the SC border,
    there are 60 to 80 percent probabilities of seeing 8+ inch=20
    rainfall totals. The heavy rains are again expected to be the=20
    result of increasing moisture transport poleward of Hurricane=20
    Rafael and interaction with an inverted surface trough, and with=20 right-entrance region upper-level jet dynamics providing deeper=20
    layer ascent. Given the setup, which will favor rainfall rates of 2
    to 3+ inches/hour and these impressive totals, there will be a=20
    strong concern for areas of high-impact flash flooding. These
    latest trends have necessitated the need to adjust the Slight and
    Moderate Risk areas farther south and east.

    Related to Hurricane Rafael, there may be some potential for outer bands
    of convection to impact portions of the lower FL Keys going through
    tonight, and as a result the Marginal Risk area has been maintained
    for this area.

    Orrison


    Previous discussion...

    In coordination with CAE/Columbia, SC and FFC/Peachtree City, GA
    forecast offices, a Moderate Risk upgrade was introduced with this
    update.

    A plume of deep tropical moisture, indirectly associated with
    Hurricane Rafael will continue overspreading portions of the
    Southeast today. The moisture plume will run into a developing
    front over Georgia and South Carolina. An upper level jet streak
    will add lift to the atmosphere. Late today into this evening, the
    nocturnal low level jet's strengthening will kick the moisture
    advection into high gear. Frontogenesis occurring over Georgia and
    South Carolina will act to focus the heavy rain over the narrow
    Moderate Risk corridor. Expect training convection to develop
    during the evening which will persist through the overnight and
    while slowly weakening in the pre-dawn hours, is likely to continue
    into western South Carolina into Day 2/Thursday.

    HREF probabilities show a 20 to 25 percent chance of a 100 year
    rainfall event in the Moderate Risk area. FFGs are very high in the
    area due to recent dry conditions with only very light rain. This
    has likely made some of the clay soils quite hydrophobic. The
    hydrophobic soils will likely increase the runoff from the heavy
    rain, which will likely quickly exceed FFGs as the heavy rain
    likely persists for multiple hours.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR MUCH OF THE TEXAS PANHANDLE AND WESTERN
    OKLAHOMA...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain will be ongoing across Georgia and especially South
    Carolina at the start of the period Thursday morning. While the
    rainfall will be diminishing in intensity, it's expected after the
    much heavier rains of Wednesday night, that the lighter totals
    forecast for Thursday will still be influential since antecedent
    conditions will be radically different by then as compared to where
    they are now. The Slight Risk threat largely is for the Thursday
    morning period with lingering rainfall from Wednesday night. Expect
    the rain to continue diminishing through the day as the moisture
    plume shifts westward with Hurricane Rafael.

    ...Texas Panhandle and Western Oklahoma...

    A positively tilted longwave trough and associated upper level
    energy in the form of jet streaks and shortwave energy will support
    the development of a strong low over the southern Plains. To the
    west, a significant amount of the low's moisture will fall in the
    form of snow. Where the precipitation will remain as rain, expect
    steady heavy rain across the Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma.
    While rates are not generally expected to be notably heavy, the
    flood threat will be primarily focused on the long duration of
    steady rain, as well as the fact that much of this area was hit
    very hard with heavy rain a few days ago, so soils and rivers
    remain elevated in this region. Thus, low FFGs support the Slight
    Risk upgrade.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest will eject into the Plains
    on Friday. There will be significant upper level energy associated
    with the low, which combined with strong frontogenesis, plentiful
    Gulf moisture advecting up the Plains on the low level jet, and a
    strengthening surface low...expect heavier rainfall amounts across
    Oklahoma and Kansas on Friday as compared with Wednesday. While
    north Kansas didn't see as much rain a few days back compared with
    areas further south...much of the rest of the Slight risk area does
    overlap with both the heavy rain from a few days ago but continued
    rainfall from Day 2/Thursday. Thus, added an internal higher-end
    Slight for western Oklahoma into south Kansas. Depending on how
    much rain the area gets on Day 2, there is some potential for a
    Moderate Risk upgrade in this area with future updates.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6tDD55fVIswBGtZkw9-8Fjn7guLUCGaHXUkydY3S-4td= C0qUXNzCf7dEtGZHhh2zby_YACaelSH69TwOrgZKTkN4fWM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6tDD55fVIswBGtZkw9-8Fjn7guLUCGaHXUkydY3S-4td= C0qUXNzCf7dEtGZHhh2zby_YACaelSH69TwOrgZKd_3UNw8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6tDD55fVIswBGtZkw9-8Fjn7guLUCGaHXUkydY3S-4td= C0qUXNzCf7dEtGZHhh2zby_YACaelSH69TwOrgZKs5PMquc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 6 20:00:31 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 062000
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    300 PM EST Wed Nov 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    1600Z Update...

    A Marginal Risk area has been added to portions of central to
    northeast LA and also a small part of southwest MS to account for
    the ongoing slow-moving areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms
    across the region that are focusing along and out ahead of a
    quasi-stationary front. Please consult MPD #1131 for more details
    on this. Convective trends across this region will continue to be
    closely monitored through the afternoon hours for additional
    convective development.

    Elsewhere, the 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR guidance continues
    to support the development and expansion of broken areas of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms across the interior of the Southeast
    beginning later this afternoon and heading into the overnight
    hours. However, there has been a trend to concentrate the heaviest
    convective rainfall threat a bit farther south and east and a bit
    deeper into the coastal plain of southern and eastern GA and the SC
    Lowcountry. Additionally, there are multiple HREF models that are
    quite heavy with the rainfall potential across parts of the FL
    Panhandle. Regionally, the potential exists for as much as 4 to 8
    inches of rain, with some isolated 10+ inch totals being supported
    by 12Z/Thursday. The 12Z HREF guidance shows 50 to 80 percent
    probabilities of seeing 5+ inches of rain from eastern parts of the
    FL Panhandle northeastward into the SC Lowcountry, and in a focused
    manner across parts of east-central GA and along the SC border,
    there are 60 to 80 percent probabilities of seeing 8+ inch
    rainfall totals. The heavy rains are again expected to be the
    result of increasing moisture transport poleward of Hurricane
    Rafael and interaction with an inverted surface trough, and with
    right-entrance region upper-level jet dynamics providing deeper
    layer ascent. Given the setup, which will favor rainfall rates of 2
    to 3+ inches/hour and these impressive totals, there will be a
    strong concern for areas of high-impact flash flooding. These
    latest trends have necessitated the need to adjust the Slight and
    Moderate Risk areas farther south and east.

    Related to Hurricane Rafael, there may be some potential for outer bands
    of convection to impact portions of the lower FL Keys going through
    tonight, and as a result the Marginal Risk area has been maintained
    for this area.

    Orrison


    Previous discussion...

    In coordination with CAE/Columbia, SC and FFC/Peachtree City, GA
    forecast offices, a Moderate Risk upgrade was introduced with this
    update.

    A plume of deep tropical moisture, indirectly associated with
    Hurricane Rafael will continue overspreading portions of the
    Southeast today. The moisture plume will run into a developing
    front over Georgia and South Carolina. An upper level jet streak
    will add lift to the atmosphere. Late today into this evening, the
    nocturnal low level jet's strengthening will kick the moisture
    advection into high gear. Frontogenesis occurring over Georgia and
    South Carolina will act to focus the heavy rain over the narrow
    Moderate Risk corridor. Expect training convection to develop
    during the evening which will persist through the overnight and
    while slowly weakening in the pre-dawn hours, is likely to continue
    into western South Carolina into Day 2/Thursday.

    HREF probabilities show a 20 to 25 percent chance of a 100 year
    rainfall event in the Moderate Risk area. FFGs are very high in the
    area due to recent dry conditions with only very light rain. This
    has likely made some of the clay soils quite hydrophobic. The
    hydrophobic soils will likely increase the runoff from the heavy
    rain, which will likely quickly exceed FFGs as the heavy rain
    likely persists for multiple hours.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF TEXAS PANHANDLE AND WESTERN=20
    OKLAHOMA...

    20z Update: Slight risk reasoning still holds over GA and SC. Only
    adjustment was to expand the risk towards the coast following=20
    model trends.

    Convection Thursday evening into the overnight hours should drive=20
    at least some flash flood risk over portions of TX and OK. Plenty=20
    of large scale forcing and moisture in place to drive a widespread=20 convective risk...with the main uncertainty more relating to the=20
    degree of instability present. The inherited Slight risk was=20
    shifted southward with this update into more of TX. This is=20
    supported by the 12z HREF probabilities and the 12z GEFS based=20
    machine learning ERO guidance. The area encompassed by the Slight=20
    risk should see slightly better instability which will allow for=20
    the potential of higher rainfall rates.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain will be ongoing across Georgia and especially South
    Carolina at the start of the period Thursday morning. While the
    rainfall will be diminishing in intensity, it's expected after the
    much heavier rains of Wednesday night, that the lighter totals
    forecast for Thursday will still be influential since antecedent
    conditions will be radically different by then as compared to where
    they are now. The Slight Risk threat largely is for the Thursday
    morning period with lingering rainfall from Wednesday night. Expect
    the rain to continue diminishing through the day as the moisture
    plume shifts westward with Hurricane Rafael.

    ...Texas Panhandle and Western Oklahoma...

    A positively tilted longwave trough and associated upper level
    energy in the form of jet streaks and shortwave energy will support
    the development of a strong low over the southern Plains. To the
    west, a significant amount of the low's moisture will fall in the
    form of snow. Where the precipitation will remain as rain, expect
    steady heavy rain across the Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma.
    While rates are not generally expected to be notably heavy, the
    flood threat will be primarily focused on the long duration of
    steady rain, as well as the fact that much of this area was hit
    very hard with heavy rain a few days ago, so soils and rivers
    remain elevated in this region. Thus, low FFGs support the Slight
    Risk upgrade.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: The Slight risk over the Plains was adjusted a bit
    southward with this update. This aligns well with the forecast
    overlap of instability and moisture convergence. We continue to
    carry higher end Slight risk probabilities across portions of TX
    into western OK. Given the above average soil saturation already=20
    in place, and the forecast overlap of rainfall Thursday and Friday=20
    over this area, some instances of flash flooding are becoming=20
    increasingly likely. Still some uncertainty with exactly where the=20
    best overlap of convection and thus highest 2 day rainfall totals=20
    will be...with the favored axis currently from north central TX=20
    into southwest OK, where 3-5" is forecast. If confidence in this=20
    area increases and/or totals trend up over 5" then a MDT risk=20
    upgrade may eventually be needed.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest will eject into the Plains
    on Friday. There will be significant upper level energy associated
    with the low, which combined with strong frontogenesis, plentiful
    Gulf moisture advecting up the Plains on the low level jet, and a
    strengthening surface low...expect heavier rainfall amounts across
    Oklahoma and Kansas on Friday as compared with Wednesday. While
    north Kansas didn't see as much rain a few days back compared with
    areas further south...much of the rest of the Slight risk area does
    overlap with both the heavy rain from a few days ago but continued
    rainfall from Day 2/Thursday. Thus, added an internal higher-end
    Slight for western Oklahoma into south Kansas. Depending on how
    much rain the area gets on Day 2, there is some potential for a
    Moderate Risk upgrade in this area with future updates.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kcT4Kv2phf6IWgBnDtkWv3_-b850FTZ9A_mmVI7hbPV= J6L_vi4Dvy3_IZTS93tHIFjNSm9Xk2rCHJ6PX-Rcp2EqBNA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kcT4Kv2phf6IWgBnDtkWv3_-b850FTZ9A_mmVI7hbPV= J6L_vi4Dvy3_IZTS93tHIFjNSm9Xk2rCHJ6PX-Rc-ZphcGE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-kcT4Kv2phf6IWgBnDtkWv3_-b850FTZ9A_mmVI7hbPV= J6L_vi4Dvy3_IZTS93tHIFjNSm9Xk2rCHJ6PX-Rcjiz1sso$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 7 01:00:09 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 070059
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    759 PM EST Wed Nov 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    0100Z Update...

    Not many changes to the outlook areas across the Southeast. A
    Moderate Risk was maintained from southern Georgia to central South
    Carolina, where heavy rainfall is likely to continue overnight.
    Latest HREF guidance shows high neighborhood probabilities (greater
    than 50 percent) for additional amounts of 3 inches or more=20
    throughout the Moderate Risk area. High probabilities for=20
    additional amounts of 5 inches or more center near the Georgia-
    South Carolina border, partially overlapping an area where MRMS=20
    estimates indicate 3-7 inches have already fallen over the past=20
    several hours. Refer to WPC MPD #1133 for additional information=20
    regarding the anticipated near-term heavy rainfall/flash flooding=20
    threat across this region.

    Pereira

    1600Z Update...

    A Marginal Risk area has been added to portions of central to
    northeast LA and also a small part of southwest MS to account for
    the ongoing slow-moving areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms
    across the region that are focusing along and out ahead of a
    quasi-stationary front. Please consult MPD #1131 for more details
    on this. Convective trends across this region will continue to be
    closely monitored through the afternoon hours for additional
    convective development.

    Elsewhere, the 12Z HREF guidance and recent HRRR guidance continues
    to support the development and expansion of broken areas of heavy
    showers and thunderstorms across the interior of the Southeast
    beginning later this afternoon and heading into the overnight
    hours. However, there has been a trend to concentrate the heaviest
    convective rainfall threat a bit farther south and east and a bit
    deeper into the coastal plain of southern and eastern GA and the SC
    Lowcountry. Additionally, there are multiple HREF models that are
    quite heavy with the rainfall potential across parts of the FL
    Panhandle. Regionally, the potential exists for as much as 4 to 8
    inches of rain, with some isolated 10+ inch totals being supported
    by 12Z/Thursday. The 12Z HREF guidance shows 50 to 80 percent
    probabilities of seeing 5+ inches of rain from eastern parts of the
    FL Panhandle northeastward into the SC Lowcountry, and in a focused
    manner across parts of east-central GA and along the SC border,
    there are 60 to 80 percent probabilities of seeing 8+ inch
    rainfall totals. The heavy rains are again expected to be the
    result of increasing moisture transport poleward of Hurricane
    Rafael and interaction with an inverted surface trough, and with
    right-entrance region upper-level jet dynamics providing deeper
    layer ascent. Given the setup, which will favor rainfall rates of 2
    to 3+ inches/hour and these impressive totals, there will be a
    strong concern for areas of high-impact flash flooding. These
    latest trends have necessitated the need to adjust the Slight and
    Moderate Risk areas farther south and east.

    Related to Hurricane Rafael, there may be some potential for outer bands
    of convection to impact portions of the lower FL Keys going through
    tonight, and as a result the Marginal Risk area has been maintained
    for this area.

    Orrison


    Previous discussion...

    In coordination with CAE/Columbia, SC and FFC/Peachtree City, GA
    forecast offices, a Moderate Risk upgrade was introduced with this
    update.

    A plume of deep tropical moisture, indirectly associated with
    Hurricane Rafael will continue overspreading portions of the
    Southeast today. The moisture plume will run into a developing
    front over Georgia and South Carolina. An upper level jet streak
    will add lift to the atmosphere. Late today into this evening, the
    nocturnal low level jet's strengthening will kick the moisture
    advection into high gear. Frontogenesis occurring over Georgia and
    South Carolina will act to focus the heavy rain over the narrow
    Moderate Risk corridor. Expect training convection to develop
    during the evening which will persist through the overnight and
    while slowly weakening in the pre-dawn hours, is likely to continue
    into western South Carolina into Day 2/Thursday.

    HREF probabilities show a 20 to 25 percent chance of a 100 year
    rainfall event in the Moderate Risk area. FFGs are very high in the
    area due to recent dry conditions with only very light rain. This
    has likely made some of the clay soils quite hydrophobic. The
    hydrophobic soils will likely increase the runoff from the heavy
    rain, which will likely quickly exceed FFGs as the heavy rain
    likely persists for multiple hours.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF TEXAS PANHANDLE AND WESTERN
    OKLAHOMA...

    20z Update: Slight risk reasoning still holds over GA and SC. Only
    adjustment was to expand the risk towards the coast following
    model trends.

    Convection Thursday evening into the overnight hours should drive
    at least some flash flood risk over portions of TX and OK. Plenty
    of large scale forcing and moisture in place to drive a widespread
    convective risk...with the main uncertainty more relating to the
    degree of instability present. The inherited Slight risk was
    shifted southward with this update into more of TX. This is
    supported by the 12z HREF probabilities and the 12z GEFS based
    machine learning ERO guidance. The area encompassed by the Slight
    risk should see slightly better instability which will allow for
    the potential of higher rainfall rates.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain will be ongoing across Georgia and especially South
    Carolina at the start of the period Thursday morning. While the
    rainfall will be diminishing in intensity, it's expected after the
    much heavier rains of Wednesday night, that the lighter totals
    forecast for Thursday will still be influential since antecedent
    conditions will be radically different by then as compared to where
    they are now. The Slight Risk threat largely is for the Thursday
    morning period with lingering rainfall from Wednesday night. Expect
    the rain to continue diminishing through the day as the moisture
    plume shifts westward with Hurricane Rafael.

    ...Texas Panhandle and Western Oklahoma...

    A positively tilted longwave trough and associated upper level
    energy in the form of jet streaks and shortwave energy will support
    the development of a strong low over the southern Plains. To the
    west, a significant amount of the low's moisture will fall in the
    form of snow. Where the precipitation will remain as rain, expect
    steady heavy rain across the Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma.
    While rates are not generally expected to be notably heavy, the
    flood threat will be primarily focused on the long duration of
    steady rain, as well as the fact that much of this area was hit
    very hard with heavy rain a few days ago, so soils and rivers
    remain elevated in this region. Thus, low FFGs support the Slight
    Risk upgrade.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: The Slight risk over the Plains was adjusted a bit
    southward with this update. This aligns well with the forecast
    overlap of instability and moisture convergence. We continue to
    carry higher end Slight risk probabilities across portions of TX
    into western OK. Given the above average soil saturation already
    in place, and the forecast overlap of rainfall Thursday and Friday
    over this area, some instances of flash flooding are becoming
    increasingly likely. Still some uncertainty with exactly where the
    best overlap of convection and thus highest 2 day rainfall totals
    will be...with the favored axis currently from north central TX
    into southwest OK, where 3-5" is forecast. If confidence in this
    area increases and/or totals trend up over 5" then a MDT risk
    upgrade may eventually be needed.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest will eject into the Plains
    on Friday. There will be significant upper level energy associated
    with the low, which combined with strong frontogenesis, plentiful
    Gulf moisture advecting up the Plains on the low level jet, and a
    strengthening surface low...expect heavier rainfall amounts across
    Oklahoma and Kansas on Friday as compared with Wednesday. While
    north Kansas didn't see as much rain a few days back compared with
    areas further south...much of the rest of the Slight risk area does
    overlap with both the heavy rain from a few days ago but continued
    rainfall from Day 2/Thursday. Thus, added an internal higher-end
    Slight for western Oklahoma into south Kansas. Depending on how
    much rain the area gets on Day 2, there is some potential for a
    Moderate Risk upgrade in this area with future updates.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4U7kc6tUKTo8o-AVj0vkW6AMUlmkzl7zGtcSRkO4HEzg= P-WTubyBQE8H1Hm8I_OiHCcmLG3jSNpsvnyw-xitn5kKlVI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4U7kc6tUKTo8o-AVj0vkW6AMUlmkzl7zGtcSRkO4HEzg= P-WTubyBQE8H1Hm8I_OiHCcmLG3jSNpsvnyw-xitbfjqTEI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4U7kc6tUKTo8o-AVj0vkW6AMUlmkzl7zGtcSRkO4HEzg= P-WTubyBQE8H1Hm8I_OiHCcmLG3jSNpsvnyw-xitY7tpzSM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 070820
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    320 AM EST Thu Nov 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF WEST TEXAS AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain continues across Georgia and South Carolina this
    morning. A nearly stationary front across the region is acting as a
    focus for that rainfall, which due to an influx of tropical
    moisture moving into the front from the Atlantic remains stuck. The
    moisture running into the front is allowing for convective
    development along the front in Florida and Georgia, which then=20
    advect northeastward into South Carolina. While convective coverage
    has been slowly diminishing, along with the storms with the
    heaviest rainfall, it's likely that the rain will continue into the
    day today. The inherited Slight and Marginal risks were largely
    left unchanged with this update, as the rainfall is generally
    behaving as expected. Since there will be a very slow drift of the
    heaviest rainfall towards the South Carolina coast, which due to
    the swampy terrain is generally much better equipped to handle
    heavy rainfall rates, a Slight Risk is sufficient to cover the
    flash flooding threat, rather than a continuation of the Moderate.

    ...West Texas and Western Oklahoma...

    A strong upper level low over the Southwest will interact with an
    LLJ of Gulf moisture and a developing surface low forming ahead of
    the upper level low. A large area of rain will develop from the
    Texas and Oklahoma Panhandles south and east over portions of the
    Cap Rock of Texas and much of Oklahoma west of Oklahoma City.
    Instability will be a significant limiting factor on short-term
    rainfall rates and the strength of any convection, but the fact
    that all of those synoptic systems just described will be very slow
    moving should increase the duration of steady rainfall. Since much
    of this region was hit hard with heavy rain a few days ago, FFGs
    remain low enough that they should be overcome in widely scattered
    instances in the Slight Risk area, and in isolated instances in the
    Marginal Risk region.=20

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface=20
    low will both continue moving northeast across the Plains on
    Friday. With continued influx of Gulf moisture, the typical comma
    shaped precipitation footprint will develop from Texas to Oklahoma.
    Out west in Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be=20
    mostly in the form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest
    rain will be from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south
    central Kansas. As today, instability will remain the primary
    limiting factor for heavy rain in most areas, as MUCAPE values=20
    generally stay under 1,000 J/kg. For the Slight Risk area, there
    has been a general eastward/faster shift in the guidance, but that
    will at least be somewhat offset by the rainfall expected today
    over the Panhandles and western Oklahoma.

    The rationale for the Slight is two-fold. While somewhat lesser
    amounts of rain are expected overall for southern Oklahoma and
    Texas...greater instability there will favor at least some storms
    capable of heavy rainfall in that area. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    instantaneous rates will likely be lower than further south, it
    will be made up for by the longer duration of the rain.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The upper level low that was driving the heavy rainfall the
    previous two days will move faster towards the northeast as it=20
    continues its return to the jet stream over the northern tier of=20
    states. The area will still have plenty of moisture from the Gulf
    to work with as Rafael (or what's left of it) remains over the
    central Gulf but the plume of moisture its embedded in continues to
    be drawn north ahead of the surface low's strong cold front. The
    front will likely be the dominant forcing for storms in this
    region. As on Friday, the southern areas of Louisiana and
    Mississippi will have the greater moisture and instability, while
    further north FFGs are much lower due to recent heavy rainfall.
    Thus, once again the Slight Risk is a two-fold combination of
    factors that individually increase the flooding risk. The front
    should still be slow enough moving that training storms tracking
    north along the front could still cause flooding problems,
    especially in Louisiana.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Ksx_niN22poR5KirpCS2Ws-mJDjP0szc-pxikkrVOvs= hOiB963vFOEAQpetDb5I8ttvN3HdEU5dQ61G8qTeuugY6n4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Ksx_niN22poR5KirpCS2Ws-mJDjP0szc-pxikkrVOvs= hOiB963vFOEAQpetDb5I8ttvN3HdEU5dQ61G8qTenHhPlPE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7Ksx_niN22poR5KirpCS2Ws-mJDjP0szc-pxikkrVOvs= hOiB963vFOEAQpetDb5I8ttvN3HdEU5dQ61G8qTejHCGzWE$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 071600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1100 AM EST Thu Nov 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF WEST TEXAS AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Maintained the Slight Risk areas with few changes across the
    Southeast and across portions of West Texas and western Oklahoma.
    The latest versions of the HRRR Conest and the HRRR both depict
    enough rainfall over the Southeast US that we maintained the Slight
    risk with the expectation that the flooding risk from intense
    rainfall is confined closer to the coastal portions of Georgia and
    South Carolina but any additional rainfall farther inland would
    exacerbate on-going flooding from areas soaked overnight. Farther
    west...the Slight risk area was expanded a bit northward and
    eastward based on the footprint of heaviest rainfall shown by the
    HRRR mainly later in the evening and during the overnight hours...NAM
    and NAM Conest. With an uptick in QPF...the area of north Texas=20
    into southwest Oklahoma is probably a higher-end Slight Risk.=20

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain continues across Georgia and South Carolina this
    morning. A nearly stationary front across the region is acting as a
    focus for that rainfall, which due to an influx of tropical
    moisture moving into the front from the Atlantic remains stuck. The
    moisture running into the front is allowing for convective
    development along the front in Florida and Georgia, which then
    advect northeastward into South Carolina. While convective coverage
    has been slowly diminishing, along with the storms with the
    heaviest rainfall, it's likely that the rain will continue into the
    day today. The inherited Slight and Marginal risks were largely
    left unchanged with this update, as the rainfall is generally
    behaving as expected. Since there will be a very slow drift of the
    heaviest rainfall towards the South Carolina coast, which due to
    the swampy terrain is generally much better equipped to handle
    heavy rainfall rates, a Slight Risk is sufficient to cover the
    flash flooding threat, rather than a continuation of the Moderate.

    ...West Texas and Western Oklahoma...

    A strong upper level low over the Southwest will interact with an
    LLJ of Gulf moisture and a developing surface low forming ahead of
    the upper level low. A large area of rain will develop from the
    Texas and Oklahoma Panhandles south and east over portions of the
    Cap Rock of Texas and much of Oklahoma west of Oklahoma City.
    Instability will be a significant limiting factor on short-term
    rainfall rates and the strength of any convection, but the fact
    that all of those synoptic systems just described will be very slow
    moving should increase the duration of steady rainfall. Since much
    of this region was hit hard with heavy rain a few days ago, FFGs
    remain low enough that they should be overcome in widely scattered
    instances in the Slight Risk area, and in isolated instances in the
    Marginal Risk region.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will both continue moving northeast across the Plains on
    Friday. With continued influx of Gulf moisture, the typical comma
    shaped precipitation footprint will develop from Texas to Oklahoma.
    Out west in Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be
    mostly in the form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest
    rain will be from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south
    central Kansas. As today, instability will remain the primary
    limiting factor for heavy rain in most areas, as MUCAPE values
    generally stay under 1,000 J/kg. For the Slight Risk area, there
    has been a general eastward/faster shift in the guidance, but that
    will at least be somewhat offset by the rainfall expected today
    over the Panhandles and western Oklahoma.

    The rationale for the Slight is two-fold. While somewhat lesser
    amounts of rain are expected overall for southern Oklahoma and
    Texas...greater instability there will favor at least some storms
    capable of heavy rainfall in that area. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    instantaneous rates will likely be lower than further south, it
    will be made up for by the longer duration of the rain.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The upper level low that was driving the heavy rainfall the
    previous two days will move faster towards the northeast as it
    continues its return to the jet stream over the northern tier of
    states. The area will still have plenty of moisture from the Gulf
    to work with as Rafael (or what's left of it) remains over the
    central Gulf but the plume of moisture its embedded in continues to
    be drawn north ahead of the surface low's strong cold front. The
    front will likely be the dominant forcing for storms in this
    region. As on Friday, the southern areas of Louisiana and
    Mississippi will have the greater moisture and instability, while
    further north FFGs are much lower due to recent heavy rainfall.
    Thus, once again the Slight Risk is a two-fold combination of
    factors that individually increase the flooding risk. The front
    should still be slow enough moving that training storms tracking
    north along the front could still cause flooding problems,
    especially in Louisiana.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8PlyZuvFlYNbVoRVroilPndK6RW2rYTnUPsxwq_Ew-2S= xSDxvTsbn_7Le8qyRj7SKENGA6wCkCLHCFc096ShI52B1hA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8PlyZuvFlYNbVoRVroilPndK6RW2rYTnUPsxwq_Ew-2S= xSDxvTsbn_7Le8qyRj7SKENGA6wCkCLHCFc096ShUmDs2Ds$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8PlyZuvFlYNbVoRVroilPndK6RW2rYTnUPsxwq_Ew-2S= xSDxvTsbn_7Le8qyRj7SKENGA6wCkCLHCFc096ShFxcdFYY$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 7 20:05:12 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 072004
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    304 PM EST Thu Nov 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF WEST TEXAS AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Maintained the Slight Risk areas with few changes across the
    Southeast and across portions of West Texas and western Oklahoma.
    The latest versions of the HRRR Conest and the HRRR both depict
    enough rainfall over the Southeast US that we maintained the Slight
    risk with the expectation that the flooding risk from intense
    rainfall is confined closer to the coastal portions of Georgia and
    South Carolina but any additional rainfall farther inland would
    exacerbate on-going flooding from areas soaked overnight. Farther
    west...the Slight risk area was expanded a bit northward and
    eastward based on the footprint of heaviest rainfall shown by the
    HRRR mainly later in the evening and during the overnight hours...NAM
    and NAM Conest. With an uptick in QPF...the area of north Texas
    into southwest Oklahoma is probably a higher-end Slight Risk.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain continues across Georgia and South Carolina this
    morning. A nearly stationary front across the region is acting as a
    focus for that rainfall, which due to an influx of tropical
    moisture moving into the front from the Atlantic remains stuck. The
    moisture running into the front is allowing for convective
    development along the front in Florida and Georgia, which then
    advect northeastward into South Carolina. While convective coverage
    has been slowly diminishing, along with the storms with the
    heaviest rainfall, it's likely that the rain will continue into the
    day today. The inherited Slight and Marginal risks were largely
    left unchanged with this update, as the rainfall is generally
    behaving as expected. Since there will be a very slow drift of the
    heaviest rainfall towards the South Carolina coast, which due to
    the swampy terrain is generally much better equipped to handle
    heavy rainfall rates, a Slight Risk is sufficient to cover the
    flash flooding threat, rather than a continuation of the Moderate.

    ...West Texas and Western Oklahoma...

    A strong upper level low over the Southwest will interact with an
    LLJ of Gulf moisture and a developing surface low forming ahead of
    the upper level low. A large area of rain will develop from the
    Texas and Oklahoma Panhandles south and east over portions of the
    Cap Rock of Texas and much of Oklahoma west of Oklahoma City.
    Instability will be a significant limiting factor on short-term
    rainfall rates and the strength of any convection, but the fact
    that all of those synoptic systems just described will be very slow
    moving should increase the duration of steady rainfall. Since much
    of this region was hit hard with heavy rain a few days ago, FFGs
    remain low enough that they should be overcome in widely scattered
    instances in the Slight Risk area, and in isolated instances in the
    Marginal Risk region.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Minimal changes to the inherited Slight risk area.
    Convection is likely to be ongoing at 12z Friday across north
    central TX into central OK, and rainfall today/tonight should
    result in more saturated conditions by 12z. Thus there is likely=20
    to be some flash flood risk that continues into Friday...although
    by this time less instability and an increased easterly motion to=20
    convection should limit the magnitude of the threat. Thus a Slight=20
    risk should suffice. The convection over central TX will have more=20 instability to work with Friday afternoon and evening, but should=20
    tend to be more progressive in nature. Although some cell mergers=20
    could result in a Slight risk of flash flooding.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will both continue moving northeast across the Plains on
    Friday. With continued influx of Gulf moisture, the typical comma
    shaped precipitation footprint will develop from Texas to Oklahoma.
    Out west in Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be
    mostly in the form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest
    rain will be from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south
    central Kansas. As today, instability will remain the primary
    limiting factor for heavy rain in most areas, as MUCAPE values
    generally stay under 1,000 J/kg. For the Slight Risk area, there
    has been a general eastward/faster shift in the guidance, but that
    will at least be somewhat offset by the rainfall expected today
    over the Panhandles and western Oklahoma.

    The rationale for the Slight is two-fold. While somewhat lesser
    amounts of rain are expected overall for southern Oklahoma and
    Texas...greater instability there will favor at least some storms
    capable of heavy rainfall in that area. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    instantaneous rates will likely be lower than further south, it
    will be made up for by the longer duration of the rain.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    20z Update: Main change was a modest eastward shift to the Slight
    risk over MS, and a removal over portions of AR/MO following model
    trends. The highest threat of 3"+ rainfall totals still looks to=20
    be across portions of LA and MS where moisture streaming north of=20
    Rafael will interact with the front and upper jet. Still some=20
    uncertainty on exactly how this interaction plays out, but there is
    a growing signal for the potential of 3-5" (locally higher) of=20
    rain somewhere over the lower MS Valley.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low that was driving the heavy rainfall the
    previous two days will move faster towards the northeast as it
    continues its return to the jet stream over the northern tier of
    states. The area will still have plenty of moisture from the Gulf
    to work with as Rafael (or what's left of it) remains over the
    central Gulf but the plume of moisture its embedded in continues to
    be drawn north ahead of the surface low's strong cold front. The
    front will likely be the dominant forcing for storms in this
    region. As on Friday, the southern areas of Louisiana and
    Mississippi will have the greater moisture and instability, while
    further north FFGs are much lower due to recent heavy rainfall.
    Thus, once again the Slight Risk is a two-fold combination of
    factors that individually increase the flooding risk. The front
    should still be slow enough moving that training storms tracking
    north along the front could still cause flooding problems,
    especially in Louisiana.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6nehDMRZ75cJy76cyyEZ8c3DMdEWd4ynXxYuv52Iy9HD= yWK4VDvocoYRof8t8n-SaopyEGWsRBeyFAtt0ZmghB_WJaQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6nehDMRZ75cJy76cyyEZ8c3DMdEWd4ynXxYuv52Iy9HD= yWK4VDvocoYRof8t8n-SaopyEGWsRBeyFAtt0ZmgTqqPe5Y$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6nehDMRZ75cJy76cyyEZ8c3DMdEWd4ynXxYuv52Iy9HD= yWK4VDvocoYRof8t8n-SaopyEGWsRBeyFAtt0ZmgB288_7g$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 080119
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    819 PM EST Thu Nov 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF WEST
    TEXAS AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...


    01Z Update...
    Across Texas and Oklahoma, adjusted the Slight Risk area where=20
    recent runs of the HRRR and current radar trends supported an=20
    eastward shift of the Slight Risk area. Ongoing convection from the
    Concho Valley northward into portions of the Texas Panhandle and=20 southwestern Oklahoma is expected to continue to develop with=20
    north-south training contributing to locally heavy amounts.=20
    Neighborhood probabilities from the 18Z HREF indicate that local=20
    amounts of 2-3 inches are likely within the Slight Risk area, with=20
    some potential for amounts of 5 inches or more, especially across=20
    portions of Northwest Texas.

    Across the Southeast, removed the Slight Risk area, but maintained
    a Marginal Risk from the eastern Florida Panhandle northeastward=20
    to the South Carolina Lowcountry. For much of the area, the airmass
    has stabilized -- limiting the potential for widespread additional
    heavy rainfall rates. However, some slow-moving storms early in=20
    the period, including ongoing storms near the Florida-Georgia
    border, may pose an isolated flash flooding threat.

    Pereira=20

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Maintained the Slight Risk areas with few changes across the
    Southeast and across portions of West Texas and western Oklahoma.
    The latest versions of the HRRR Conest and the HRRR both depict
    enough rainfall over the Southeast US that we maintained the Slight
    risk with the expectation that the flooding risk from intense
    rainfall is confined closer to the coastal portions of Georgia and
    South Carolina but any additional rainfall farther inland would
    exacerbate on-going flooding from areas soaked overnight. Farther
    west...the Slight risk area was expanded a bit northward and
    eastward based on the footprint of heaviest rainfall shown by the
    HRRR mainly later in the evening and during the overnight hours...NAM
    and NAM Conest. With an uptick in QPF...the area of north Texas
    into southwest Oklahoma is probably a higher-end Slight Risk.

    Bann

    0830Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain continues across Georgia and South Carolina this
    morning. A nearly stationary front across the region is acting as a
    focus for that rainfall, which due to an influx of tropical
    moisture moving into the front from the Atlantic remains stuck. The
    moisture running into the front is allowing for convective
    development along the front in Florida and Georgia, which then
    advect northeastward into South Carolina. While convective coverage
    has been slowly diminishing, along with the storms with the
    heaviest rainfall, it's likely that the rain will continue into the
    day today. The inherited Slight and Marginal risks were largely
    left unchanged with this update, as the rainfall is generally
    behaving as expected. Since there will be a very slow drift of the
    heaviest rainfall towards the South Carolina coast, which due to
    the swampy terrain is generally much better equipped to handle
    heavy rainfall rates, a Slight Risk is sufficient to cover the
    flash flooding threat, rather than a continuation of the Moderate.

    ...West Texas and Western Oklahoma...

    A strong upper level low over the Southwest will interact with an
    LLJ of Gulf moisture and a developing surface low forming ahead of
    the upper level low. A large area of rain will develop from the
    Texas and Oklahoma Panhandles south and east over portions of the
    Cap Rock of Texas and much of Oklahoma west of Oklahoma City.
    Instability will be a significant limiting factor on short-term
    rainfall rates and the strength of any convection, but the fact
    that all of those synoptic systems just described will be very slow
    moving should increase the duration of steady rainfall. Since much
    of this region was hit hard with heavy rain a few days ago, FFGs
    remain low enough that they should be overcome in widely scattered
    instances in the Slight Risk area, and in isolated instances in the
    Marginal Risk region.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Minimal changes to the inherited Slight risk area.
    Convection is likely to be ongoing at 12z Friday across north
    central TX into central OK, and rainfall today/tonight should
    result in more saturated conditions by 12z. Thus there is likely
    to be some flash flood risk that continues into Friday...although
    by this time less instability and an increased easterly motion to
    convection should limit the magnitude of the threat. Thus a Slight
    risk should suffice. The convection over central TX will have more
    instability to work with Friday afternoon and evening, but should
    tend to be more progressive in nature. Although some cell mergers
    could result in a Slight risk of flash flooding.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will both continue moving northeast across the Plains on
    Friday. With continued influx of Gulf moisture, the typical comma
    shaped precipitation footprint will develop from Texas to Oklahoma.
    Out west in Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be
    mostly in the form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest
    rain will be from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south
    central Kansas. As today, instability will remain the primary
    limiting factor for heavy rain in most areas, as MUCAPE values
    generally stay under 1,000 J/kg. For the Slight Risk area, there
    has been a general eastward/faster shift in the guidance, but that
    will at least be somewhat offset by the rainfall expected today
    over the Panhandles and western Oklahoma.

    The rationale for the Slight is two-fold. While somewhat lesser
    amounts of rain are expected overall for southern Oklahoma and
    Texas...greater instability there will favor at least some storms
    capable of heavy rainfall in that area. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    instantaneous rates will likely be lower than further south, it
    will be made up for by the longer duration of the rain.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    20z Update: Main change was a modest eastward shift to the Slight
    risk over MS, and a removal over portions of AR/MO following model
    trends. The highest threat of 3"+ rainfall totals still looks to
    be across portions of LA and MS where moisture streaming north of
    Rafael will interact with the front and upper jet. Still some
    uncertainty on exactly how this interaction plays out, but there is
    a growing signal for the potential of 3-5" (locally higher) of
    rain somewhere over the lower MS Valley.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low that was driving the heavy rainfall the
    previous two days will move faster towards the northeast as it
    continues its return to the jet stream over the northern tier of
    states. The area will still have plenty of moisture from the Gulf
    to work with as Rafael (or what's left of it) remains over the
    central Gulf but the plume of moisture its embedded in continues to
    be drawn north ahead of the surface low's strong cold front. The
    front will likely be the dominant forcing for storms in this
    region. As on Friday, the southern areas of Louisiana and
    Mississippi will have the greater moisture and instability, while
    further north FFGs are much lower due to recent heavy rainfall.
    Thus, once again the Slight Risk is a two-fold combination of
    factors that individually increase the flooding risk. The front
    should still be slow enough moving that training storms tracking
    north along the front could still cause flooding problems,
    especially in Louisiana.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6QpVdzCGNJZel9efgSg4lDdB8oEZgBuYuMi6oRlGRpcE= 9qiPpExzPcJUVWs7cgm0OXhiRQlilN1bxLbgRE_STmahUsg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6QpVdzCGNJZel9efgSg4lDdB8oEZgBuYuMi6oRlGRpcE= 9qiPpExzPcJUVWs7cgm0OXhiRQlilN1bxLbgRE_SPj-gnFQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6QpVdzCGNJZel9efgSg4lDdB8oEZgBuYuMi6oRlGRpcE= 9qiPpExzPcJUVWs7cgm0OXhiRQlilN1bxLbgRE_Sovm9tl0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 080758
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    258 AM EST Fri Nov 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will continue moving northeast across the Plains on Friday.=20
    With a continued influx of Gulf moisture with precipitable water
    values of 1.5-2.25" expected near the cyclone's cold front, the=20
    typical comma shaped precipitation footprint will develop farther
    up the warm conveyor belt from Texas to Oklahoma which should occur
    with precipitable water values at or above an inch. Out west in=20
    Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be mostly in the=20
    form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest rain will be=20
    from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south-central Kansas.=20
    Instability should be sufficient for heavy rain-related issues.

    While somewhat lesser amounts of rain are expected overall for=20
    southern Oklahoma and Texas...greater instability there as high as
    1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will favor at least some storms capable of=20
    heavy rainfall in that area, with hourly rain totals to 2.5" and=20
    local amounts as high as 6" where cells train. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the=20
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while=20
    hourly rain totals will likely be lower than further south, perhaps
    1" where slantwise convection/frontogenesis aloft forces greater=20 precipitation efficiency, it will be made up for by the longer=20
    duration of the rain.

    Roth/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As=20
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the=20
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the=20
    dominant forcing for storms in this region. As on Friday, the=20
    southern areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater=20
    moisture. MU CAPE rises towards 1000 J/kg across parts of LA/MS/TN.
    Areas further north have soils which are more saturated/flash=20
    flood guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause=20
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.=20
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 6" appear=20
    likely. Lingering disagreement on exactly where the maxima are=20
    expected kept the risk level from being raised to Moderate, though=20
    an upgrade remains possible in future updates should this placement
    issue resolve itself and model QPF magnitudes don't back off.=20

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...=20
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP=20
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the=20
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also=20
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should=20
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the=20
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly=20
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement=20
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the=20
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight=20
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly=20
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum=20
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified=20
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6okK3HoEyj5Taqk-KxSy7N4LRrsuqtLc9vmEddZ1h7wz= 1AQoFvzaPhyYqlwRJ1lD8otIAgvDyceTzzJ6FTvAa3GGHpE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6okK3HoEyj5Taqk-KxSy7N4LRrsuqtLc9vmEddZ1h7wz= 1AQoFvzaPhyYqlwRJ1lD8otIAgvDyceTzzJ6FTvAZqbGt0o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6okK3HoEyj5Taqk-KxSy7N4LRrsuqtLc9vmEddZ1h7wz= 1AQoFvzaPhyYqlwRJ1lD8otIAgvDyceTzzJ6FTvAnK8OZQs$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 081552
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1052 AM EST Fri Nov 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...16z Update...

    Little change needed for the 16z update, as the inherited Slight
    Risk was maintained and adjusted a bit based on observational and=20
    CAM trends. Much of the Slight Risk area (particularly the western
    half) is on the lower-end of the probability spectrum, owning to
    longer duration rainfall resulting in isolated to widely scattered
    flash flooding. A good portion of the TX Hill Country has received
    impressive 4-10" totals over the past 24 hours, resulting in highly
    depressed FFGs with little additional rainfall needed to cause
    problems. Even so, localized short-term totals going forward=20
    should be capped around 1.5", greatly limiting the extent of any=20
    additional flash flooding. Farther east into the Heart of TX=20
    (mainly southeast of the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area), the Slight
    Risk is considered to be on the higher-end of the probability=20
    spectrum (25%+), as this region has the best chance of realizing=20
    the highest rainfall rates (1-2"/hr) and resultant short-term=20
    totals (20-30% odds of 5" exceedance, per 40-km neighborhood HREF=20 probabilities through 12z). Drier antecedent conditions in this=20
    region should limit the extent and intensity of flash flooding=20
    (with FFGs generally ranging from 3-4", coverage should remain=20
    scattered and below significant flash flood thresholds).=20

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will continue moving northeast across the Plains on Friday.
    With a continued influx of Gulf moisture with precipitable water
    values of 1.5-2.25" expected near the cyclone's cold front, the
    typical comma shaped precipitation footprint will develop farther
    up the warm conveyor belt from Texas to Oklahoma which should occur
    with precipitable water values at or above an inch. Out west in
    Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be mostly in the
    form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest rain will be
    from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south-central Kansas.
    Instability should be sufficient for heavy rain-related issues.

    While somewhat lesser amounts of rain are expected overall for
    southern Oklahoma and Texas...greater instability there as high as
    1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will favor at least some storms capable of
    heavy rainfall in that area, with hourly rain totals to 2.5" and
    local amounts as high as 6" where cells train. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    hourly rain totals will likely be lower than further south, perhaps
    1" where slantwise convection/frontogenesis aloft forces greater
    precipitation efficiency, it will be made up for by the longer
    duration of the rain.

    Roth/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region. As on Friday, the
    southern areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater
    moisture. MU CAPE rises towards 1000 J/kg across parts of LA/MS/TN.
    Areas further north have soils which are more saturated/flash
    flood guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 6" appear
    likely. Lingering disagreement on exactly where the maxima are
    expected kept the risk level from being raised to Moderate, though
    an upgrade remains possible in future updates should this placement
    issue resolve itself and model QPF magnitudes don't back off.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Y94yLOEn3MNhv7_LtFqaQW3Po2Y9AIvesfCL2J3ZYGq= XR_6yNL7cdyadh57h7N9EQaF__iyYY8R1LbjXc1ed2gqfs4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Y94yLOEn3MNhv7_LtFqaQW3Po2Y9AIvesfCL2J3ZYGq= XR_6yNL7cdyadh57h7N9EQaF__iyYY8R1LbjXc1e4kX4sbA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Y94yLOEn3MNhv7_LtFqaQW3Po2Y9AIvesfCL2J3ZYGq= XR_6yNL7cdyadh57h7N9EQaF__iyYY8R1LbjXc1ex8Zc2hQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 082002
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    302 PM EST Fri Nov 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...16z Update...

    Little change needed for the 16z update, as the inherited Slight
    Risk was maintained and adjusted a bit based on observational and
    CAM trends. Much of the Slight Risk area (particularly the western
    half) is on the lower-end of the probability spectrum, owning to
    longer duration rainfall resulting in isolated to widely scattered
    flash flooding. A good portion of the TX Hill Country has received
    impressive 4-10" totals over the past 24 hours, resulting in highly
    depressed FFGs with little additional rainfall needed to cause
    problems. Even so, localized short-term totals going forward
    should be capped around 1.5", greatly limiting the extent of any
    additional flash flooding. Farther east into the Heart of TX
    (mainly southeast of the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area), the Slight
    Risk is considered to be on the higher-end of the probability
    spectrum (25%+), as this region has the best chance of realizing
    the highest rainfall rates (1-2"/hr) and resultant short-term
    totals (20-30% odds of 5" exceedance, per 40-km neighborhood HREF
    probabilities through 12z). Drier antecedent conditions in this
    region should limit the extent and intensity of flash flooding
    (with FFGs generally ranging from 3-4", coverage should remain
    scattered and below significant flash flood thresholds).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will continue moving northeast across the Plains on Friday.
    With a continued influx of Gulf moisture with precipitable water
    values of 1.5-2.25" expected near the cyclone's cold front, the
    typical comma shaped precipitation footprint will develop farther
    up the warm conveyor belt from Texas to Oklahoma which should occur
    with precipitable water values at or above an inch. Out west in
    Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be mostly in the
    form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest rain will be
    from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south-central Kansas.
    Instability should be sufficient for heavy rain-related issues.

    While somewhat lesser amounts of rain are expected overall for
    southern Oklahoma and Texas...greater instability there as high as
    1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will favor at least some storms capable of
    heavy rainfall in that area, with hourly rain totals to 2.5" and
    local amounts as high as 6" where cells train. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    hourly rain totals will likely be lower than further south, perhaps
    1" where slantwise convection/frontogenesis aloft forces greater
    precipitation efficiency, it will be made up for by the longer
    duration of the rain.

    Roth/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    CENTRAL LOUISIANA...

    20z Update: MDT risk upgrade across portions of central LA with
    this update. Flash flooding is becoming increasingly likely across
    this corridor, with locally significant impacts possible.=20
    Favorable setup for heavy rainfall with moisture streaming north=20
    from Rafael into the stalling front and upper jet. Global models=20
    and HREF members are both showing a heavy rainfall threat in their
    QPF as well. There remain some differences in the location of=20
    heaviest rain, but generally seeing a consensus towards central LA.
    We've got 3-5" of rain in the forecast, but there's a reasonable=20
    possibility of localized 6-8" amounts. Some flash flooding is=20
    possible Saturday morning, but an uptick in the coverage and=20
    magnitude of impacts is expected during the afternoon and evening=20
    hours.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...=20

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region. As on Friday, the
    southern areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater
    moisture. MU CAPE rises towards 1000 J/kg across parts of LA/MS/TN.
    Areas further north have soils which are more saturated/flash
    flood guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 6" appear
    likely. Lingering disagreement on exactly where the maxima are
    expected kept the risk level from being raised to Moderate, though
    an upgrade remains possible in future updates should this placement
    issue resolve itself and model QPF magnitudes don't back off.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk areas, as
    they still look in good shape. May eventually be able to trim back
    the northern extent of the Marginal over PA/OH/WV given the dry=20
    soil conditions and lack of instability...but will maintain=20
    continuity for now with PWs forecast 2-3 SD above average and=20
    decent forcing in place.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9JMcRCb1ZG8l_gz9OQIkogXeUM24RT0ZiFIx_g8f7wPS= IExsJsgMS2zzIXXmAR2Qnc99KPb9TxNv77hBtPZ3ltWH8T8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9JMcRCb1ZG8l_gz9OQIkogXeUM24RT0ZiFIx_g8f7wPS= IExsJsgMS2zzIXXmAR2Qnc99KPb9TxNv77hBtPZ3wFi8vKo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9JMcRCb1ZG8l_gz9OQIkogXeUM24RT0ZiFIx_g8f7wPS= IExsJsgMS2zzIXXmAR2Qnc99KPb9TxNv77hBtPZ3RBj28gc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 090017
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    717 PM EST Fri Nov 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...16z Update...

    Little change needed for the 01Z update...with the biggest changes
    resulting from adjustments to better fit early evening radar and
    satellite imagery and latest CAM trends. Much of the western part
    of the Slight Risk was removed as cooler and drier air sweeps
    eastward behind a steadily progressive cold front.=20

    Early evening radar showed several lines of showers and=20
    thunderstorms were still poised to cross the Slight Risk area this=20
    evening and overnight...where a 25 to 35 kt low level jet continued
    to tap deeper moisture from the Gulf of Mexico and established an
    axis of precipitable water values exceeding 1.75 inches that
    extended across eastern Texas into portions of eastern Oklahoma and
    nearby Louisiana and Arkansas. In this area...the Slight Risk is=20
    considered to be on the higher- end of the probability spectrum=20
    (25%+), as this region has the best chance of realizing the highest
    rainfall rates (1-2"/hr) and resultant short- term totals (20-30%=20
    odds of 5" exceedance, per 40-km neighborhood HREF probabilities=20
    through 09/12Z). Drier antecedent conditions in this region should=20
    limit the extent and intensity of flash flooding (with FFGs=20
    generally ranging from 3-4", coverage should remain scattered and=20
    below significant flash flood thresholds).

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    CENTRAL LOUISIANA...

    20z Update: MDT risk upgrade across portions of central LA with
    this update. Flash flooding is becoming increasingly likely across
    this corridor, with locally significant impacts possible.
    Favorable setup for heavy rainfall with moisture streaming north
    from Rafael into the stalling front and upper jet. Global models
    and HREF members are both showing a heavy rainfall threat in their
    QPF as well. There remain some differences in the location of
    heaviest rain, but generally seeing a consensus towards central LA.
    We've got 3-5" of rain in the forecast, but there's a reasonable
    possibility of localized 6-8" amounts. Some flash flooding is
    possible Saturday morning, but an uptick in the coverage and
    magnitude of impacts is expected during the afternoon and evening
    hours.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region. As on Friday, the
    southern areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater
    moisture. MU CAPE rises towards 1000 J/kg across parts of LA/MS/TN.
    Areas further north have soils which are more saturated/flash
    flood guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 6" appear
    likely. Lingering disagreement on exactly where the maxima are
    expected kept the risk level from being raised to Moderate, though
    an upgrade remains possible in future updates should this placement
    issue resolve itself and model QPF magnitudes don't back off.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk areas, as
    they still look in good shape. May eventually be able to trim back
    the northern extent of the Marginal over PA/OH/WV given the dry
    soil conditions and lack of instability...but will maintain
    continuity for now with PWs forecast 2-3 SD above average and
    decent forcing in place.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_BmXW38OVE_2Fy8jgwwwbUplgRaVOsegIc6eSmO1bsfY= g-ai0IxCYLOwvBjkkickJgaBK1XBUpFxHSIKoLlC2AYWzqA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_BmXW38OVE_2Fy8jgwwwbUplgRaVOsegIc6eSmO1bsfY= g-ai0IxCYLOwvBjkkickJgaBK1XBUpFxHSIKoLlCUIgBNM0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_BmXW38OVE_2Fy8jgwwwbUplgRaVOsegIc6eSmO1bsfY= g-ai0IxCYLOwvBjkkickJgaBK1XBUpFxHSIKoLlCMeZSMwc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 090741
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    241 AM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As=20
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with=20 precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the=20
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the=20
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern=20
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.=20
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas=20
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood=20
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that=20
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause=20
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.=20
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" appear=20
    likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of 8" totals. There is=20
    much better agreement on the placement when compared to this time=20
    yesterday. Portions of Central LA have received 300%+ of their=20
    average seven day rainfall, so soils should have some sensitivity.=20 Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office led to
    the Local impacts more aligned with a High Risk cannot be ruled=20
    out.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk areas, as
    they still look in good shape. May eventually be able to trim back
    the northern extent of the Marginal over PA/OH/WV given the dry
    soil conditions and lack of instability...but will maintain
    continuity for now with PWs forecast 2-3 SD above average and
    decent forcing in place.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST & CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Central Gulf Coast...
    Precipitable water values north of Rafael are expected to remain in
    the 1.5-2" range in the vicinity of a slowly progressive front near
    the Central Gulf Coast. While much of the guidance keeps rainfall=20
    amounts minimal, the 00z NAM showed local amounts of 3"+, though=20
    it gets there by allowing Rafael to get much closer to the Gulf=20
    Coast than other model guidance. Considering that heavy rainfall=20
    is possible over the previous couple of days, figured a new=20
    Marginal Risk was a sensible precaution in case the NAM is close to
    correct and/or soils are saturated by that time.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values of 0.5-0.75" and MU CAPE of a few hundred
    J/kg are expected in a post-frontal environment. Inflow off the
    Pacific is expected to remain around 40 kts. Hourly rain totals=20
    exceeding 0.5" remain possible, which would be most problematic in
    burn scars. Left the inherited Marginal Risk area intact though=20
    simplified the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_q0bgt76RfSt6bPhlpK5fJYf1gR4Fm94zzW1VAjDC5ze= NipEeRN0eg1VuV8ktpUJ8bKgisdfWXvmDWaK_lJTUO3VRFo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_q0bgt76RfSt6bPhlpK5fJYf1gR4Fm94zzW1VAjDC5ze= NipEeRN0eg1VuV8ktpUJ8bKgisdfWXvmDWaK_lJTLgl3Fyw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_q0bgt76RfSt6bPhlpK5fJYf1gR4Fm94zzW1VAjDC5ze= NipEeRN0eg1VuV8ktpUJ8bKgisdfWXvmDWaK_lJTSsuTGgs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 9 07:43:58 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 090743
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    243 AM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when=20
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have=20
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA=20
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk areas, as
    they still look in good shape. May eventually be able to trim back
    the northern extent of the Marginal over PA/OH/WV given the dry
    soil conditions and lack of instability...but will maintain
    continuity for now with PWs forecast 2-3 SD above average and
    decent forcing in place.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST & CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Central Gulf Coast...
    Precipitable water values north of Rafael are expected to remain in
    the 1.5-2" range in the vicinity of a slowly progressive front near
    the Central Gulf Coast. While much of the guidance keeps rainfall
    amounts minimal, the 00z NAM showed local amounts of 3"+, though
    it gets there by allowing Rafael to get much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than other model guidance. Considering that heavy rainfall
    is possible over the previous couple of days, figured a new
    Marginal Risk was a sensible precaution in case the NAM is close to
    correct and/or soils are saturated by that time.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values of 0.5-0.75" and MU CAPE of a few hundred
    J/kg are expected in a post-frontal environment. Inflow off the
    Pacific is expected to remain around 40 kts. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" remain possible, which would be most problematic in
    burn scars. Left the inherited Marginal Risk area intact though
    simplified the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-cAIEITF4KL0agWdRoJqAUqChqAkOdPdmh9S-Jvu7-3N= h_VwwUe-U7Ew9HjgX9wWSjWyLN4Cw8D6fcXtjXh0w6GlzGA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-cAIEITF4KL0agWdRoJqAUqChqAkOdPdmh9S-Jvu7-3N= h_VwwUe-U7Ew9HjgX9wWSjWyLN4Cw8D6fcXtjXh0XWMvpvI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-cAIEITF4KL0agWdRoJqAUqChqAkOdPdmh9S-Jvu7-3N= h_VwwUe-U7Ew9HjgX9wWSjWyLN4Cw8D6fcXtjXh0FAQR_II$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 090748
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    248 AM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...


    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The guidance
    remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall gets ashore or not.
    Precipitable water values should rise above 1.5", particularly in=20
    the southern portion of the area near the coast, which should be=20
    enough for heavy rain concerns. It appears that enough instability=20
    could be available along the immediate Gulf Coast for convection=20
    with heavy rainfall. Hourly rain totals to 2" with local totals to=20
    5" appear achievable along or near the immediate Gulf coast.=20
    Whenever better agreement amongst the guidance on the future of=20
    Rafael as well as the placement any rainfall maximum near the coast
    occurs, a Slight Risk could prove useful at that later time. To=20
    the north, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear=20
    to be the maximum potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST & CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Central Gulf Coast...
    Precipitable water values north of Rafael are expected to remain in
    the 1.5-2" range in the vicinity of a slowly progressive front near
    the Central Gulf Coast. While much of the guidance keeps rainfall
    amounts minimal, the 00z NAM showed local amounts of 3"+, though
    it gets there by allowing Rafael to get much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than other model guidance. Considering that heavy rainfall
    is possible over the previous couple of days, figured a new
    Marginal Risk was a sensible precaution in case the NAM is close to
    correct and/or soils are saturated by that time.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values of 0.5-0.75" and MU CAPE of a few hundred
    J/kg are expected in a post-frontal environment. Inflow off the
    Pacific is expected to remain around 40 kts. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" remain possible, which would be most problematic in
    burn scars. Left the inherited Marginal Risk area intact though
    simplified the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6BqCTwi2BmPOduFOSKXHpd4HUbEUFdsdvm-KfDeFnzr= nhFBEJKIz16U-Ao5V_CV_kLT03yMiaTiUw0JvJaDIgt32mE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6BqCTwi2BmPOduFOSKXHpd4HUbEUFdsdvm-KfDeFnzr= nhFBEJKIz16U-Ao5V_CV_kLT03yMiaTiUw0JvJaDHEP1Ijg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-6BqCTwi2BmPOduFOSKXHpd4HUbEUFdsdvm-KfDeFnzr= nhFBEJKIz16U-Ao5V_CV_kLT03yMiaTiUw0JvJaDY1_U86w$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 9 16:00:29 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 091600
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1100 AM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    ...16z Update...

    Little changes needed for this update, as the new suite of 12z CAMs
    remain supportive of relatively small High Risk over southwestern=20
    and central portions of LA. HREF 40-km neighborhood probabilities
    for 8" exceedance remain high (between 40-80%), with 100-yr ARI
    exceedance probabilities as high as 30-40%. The deep tropical=20
    moisture ushered in as a result of Tropical Storm Rafael is more=20
    typical of late August to early September with precipitable water=20
    values near 2.2" (well above the 90th percentile and near record=20
    levels for early November, per LCH sounding climatology). See MPD=20
    #1145 (and subsequent MPDs) for more information on the near term
    threat. Only relatively minor adjustments to the Slight, Moderate,
    and High Risk contours for this update (based on the latest trends).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...


    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The guidance
    remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall gets ashore or not.
    Precipitable water values should rise above 1.5", particularly in
    the southern portion of the area near the coast, which should be
    enough for heavy rain concerns. It appears that enough instability
    could be available along the immediate Gulf Coast for convection
    with heavy rainfall. Hourly rain totals to 2" with local totals to
    5" appear achievable along or near the immediate Gulf coast.
    Whenever better agreement amongst the guidance on the future of
    Rafael as well as the placement any rainfall maximum near the coast
    occurs, a Slight Risk could prove useful at that later time. To
    the north, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear
    to be the maximum potential.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST & CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Central Gulf Coast...
    Precipitable water values north of Rafael are expected to remain in
    the 1.5-2" range in the vicinity of a slowly progressive front near
    the Central Gulf Coast. While much of the guidance keeps rainfall
    amounts minimal, the 00z NAM showed local amounts of 3"+, though
    it gets there by allowing Rafael to get much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than other model guidance. Considering that heavy rainfall
    is possible over the previous couple of days, figured a new
    Marginal Risk was a sensible precaution in case the NAM is close to
    correct and/or soils are saturated by that time.


    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values of 0.5-0.75" and MU CAPE of a few hundred
    J/kg are expected in a post-frontal environment. Inflow off the
    Pacific is expected to remain around 40 kts. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" remain possible, which would be most problematic in
    burn scars. Left the inherited Marginal Risk area intact though
    simplified the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_b3nzmtBS9-ADvwFBv0yS82zsfkPArX_KsAbUXLKW9K= a-zQW5ilFuX0HcuOj8QzzbghuS-xBFCoXVA4znAOQOiXflA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_b3nzmtBS9-ADvwFBv0yS82zsfkPArX_KsAbUXLKW9K= a-zQW5ilFuX0HcuOj8QzzbghuS-xBFCoXVA4znAOB9XQoVY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5_b3nzmtBS9-ADvwFBv0yS82zsfkPArX_KsAbUXLKW9K= a-zQW5ilFuX0HcuOj8QzzbghuS-xBFCoXVA4znAOKZNDeK4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 9 19:23:10 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 091922
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    222 PM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    ...16z Update...

    Little changes needed for this update, as the new suite of 12z CAMs
    remain supportive of relatively small High Risk over southwestern
    and central portions of LA. HREF 40-km neighborhood probabilities
    for 8" exceedance remain high (between 40-80%), with 100-yr ARI
    exceedance probabilities as high as 30-40%. The deep tropical
    moisture ushered in as a result of Tropical Storm Rafael is more
    typical of late August to early September with precipitable water
    values near 2.2" (well above the 90th percentile and near record
    levels for early November, per LCH sounding climatology). See MPD
    #1145 (and subsequent MPDs) for more information on the near term
    threat. Only relatively minor adjustments to the Slight, Moderate,
    and High Risk contours for this update (based on the latest trends).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND TENNESSEE VALLEY...

    20z Update: A Marginal risk was maintained from the central Gulf
    Coast northeastward into KY. Flash flooding may be ongoing at 12z
    Sunday across portions of LA, although guidance indicates
    convection should be on a weakening trend by late tonight into the
    morning hours. At the moment our post 12z QPF does not support=20
    anything more than a Marginal risk over LA, however given what=20
    should be saturated conditions after todays and tonight's rainfall,
    if convection is persisting longer than forecast than an upgrade=20
    in the ERO may be needed through Sunday morning. We were able to=20
    trim back the northeastern portion of the risk area over PA/OH/WV.=20
    While QPF of 1-1.5" is still forecast, limited instability should=20
    keep rainfall rates below 0.5" in an hour over these areas. Not=20
    seeing any FFG exceedance probabilities in the HREF given these=20
    weaker expected rates and dry antecedent conditions.

    The Marginal risk over the Pacific Northwest was removed with this
    update. The front Sunday night into Monday morning is expected to
    be progressive in nature limiting rainfall totals and impacts. Some
    brief 0.5" per hour rates are possible along the OR coast, but the
    quick movement should limit impacts. All the impacted WFOs were in
    agreement on dropping the risk.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The guidance
    remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall gets ashore or not.
    Precipitable water values should rise above 1.5", particularly in
    the southern portion of the area near the coast, which should be
    enough for heavy rain concerns. It appears that enough instability
    could be available along the immediate Gulf Coast for convection
    with heavy rainfall. Hourly rain totals to 2" with local totals to
    5" appear achievable along or near the immediate Gulf coast.
    Whenever better agreement amongst the guidance on the future of
    Rafael as well as the placement any rainfall maximum near the coast
    occurs, a Slight Risk could prove useful at that later time. To
    the north, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear
    to be the maximum potential.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    The Gulf Coast Marginal was dropped as rainfall intensity/coverage
    should be decreasing by this time. Still a non-zero chance of a=20
    localized flash flood near the coast, however the latest=20
    deterministic and ensemble guidance suggests FFG exceedance chances
    are too low to justify an area at this time.

    The Marginal over the Western U.S. was also dropped in coordination
    with impacted local WFOs. The first system will exit the area=20
    Monday morning, with just post frontal showery conditions expected
    behind it through Tuesday morning. While weak instability behind=20
    the front may support some briefly heavy rates, the coverage and=20
    duration of any heavier rainfall should be too short to cause=20
    impacts with antecedent soil and streamflows running either=20
    average or below average for early November. This rainfall will
    help increase saturation ahead of the day 4/5 atmospheric=20
    river...which is expected to be a stronger and more persistent=20
    system. Thus Marginal risks will continue for the day 4 and 5=20
    period.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iVlQ7pIN9j83i7AeordWIUYh5OAppk7qdCKm_lAK4jW= hfhyNiVd5g8BzlRa-yoMPnOqva09f1LabHxtYGkhfR8YcrA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iVlQ7pIN9j83i7AeordWIUYh5OAppk7qdCKm_lAK4jW= hfhyNiVd5g8BzlRa-yoMPnOqva09f1LabHxtYGkh07ao45s$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iVlQ7pIN9j83i7AeordWIUYh5OAppk7qdCKm_lAK4jW= hfhyNiVd5g8BzlRa-yoMPnOqva09f1LabHxtYGkhByp_ub0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 10 00:32:15 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 100031
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    731 PM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    ...01Z Update...
    Little change needed again for this update with on-going moderate
    to heavy rainfall still occurring over the central and=20
    southwestern Louisiana. In addition...MRMS radar QPE combined with=20
    the CAM QPF/neighborhood probabilities still remain supportive the=20
    on-going outlook. Expanded some of the lower-end outlook categories northeastward in Louisiana where rainfall earlier today led to=20
    increasingly saturated soils...and roughly corresponds to the same=20
    area as the National Water Center's Area Hydrologic Discussion 305=20
    valid through the remainder of the ERO Day 1 period. There are=20
    signals from the HREF and HRRR that rainfall rates will be tapering
    off overnight...but convergent low level flow of two moist streams
    seen on satellite and radar early this evening flowinng into
    southwesternb Louisiana point to it being too early to make any=20
    wholesale changes to the on-going Moderate or High risk.

    Bann

    ...16z Update...

    Little changes needed for this update, as the new suite of 12z CAMs
    remain supportive of relatively small High Risk over southwestern
    and central portions of LA. HREF 40-km neighborhood probabilities
    for 8" exceedance remain high (between 40-80%), with 100-yr ARI
    exceedance probabilities as high as 30-40%. The deep tropical
    moisture ushered in as a result of Tropical Storm Rafael is more
    typical of late August to early September with precipitable water
    values near 2.2" (well above the 90th percentile and near record
    levels for early November, per LCH sounding climatology). See MPD
    #1145 (and subsequent MPDs) for more information on the near term
    threat. Only relatively minor adjustments to the Slight, Moderate,
    and High Risk contours for this update (based on the latest trends).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND TENNESSEE VALLEY...

    20z Update: A Marginal risk was maintained from the central Gulf
    Coast northeastward into KY. Flash flooding may be ongoing at 12z
    Sunday across portions of LA, although guidance indicates
    convection should be on a weakening trend by late tonight into the
    morning hours. At the moment our post 12z QPF does not support
    anything more than a Marginal risk over LA, however given what
    should be saturated conditions after todays and tonight's rainfall,
    if convection is persisting longer than forecast than an upgrade
    in the ERO may be needed through Sunday morning. We were able to
    trim back the northeastern portion of the risk area over PA/OH/WV.
    While QPF of 1-1.5" is still forecast, limited instability should
    keep rainfall rates below 0.5" in an hour over these areas. Not
    seeing any FFG exceedance probabilities in the HREF given these
    weaker expected rates and dry antecedent conditions.

    The Marginal risk over the Pacific Northwest was removed with this
    update. The front Sunday night into Monday morning is expected to
    be progressive in nature limiting rainfall totals and impacts. Some
    brief 0.5" per hour rates are possible along the OR coast, but the
    quick movement should limit impacts. All the impacted WFOs were in
    agreement on dropping the risk.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The guidance
    remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall gets ashore or not.
    Precipitable water values should rise above 1.5", particularly in
    the southern portion of the area near the coast, which should be
    enough for heavy rain concerns. It appears that enough instability
    could be available along the immediate Gulf Coast for convection
    with heavy rainfall. Hourly rain totals to 2" with local totals to
    5" appear achievable along or near the immediate Gulf coast.
    Whenever better agreement amongst the guidance on the future of
    Rafael as well as the placement any rainfall maximum near the coast
    occurs, a Slight Risk could prove useful at that later time. To
    the north, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear
    to be the maximum potential.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    The Gulf Coast Marginal was dropped as rainfall intensity/coverage
    should be decreasing by this time. Still a non-zero chance of a
    localized flash flood near the coast, however the latest
    deterministic and ensemble guidance suggests FFG exceedance chances
    are too low to justify an area at this time.

    The Marginal over the Western U.S. was also dropped in coordination
    with impacted local WFOs. The first system will exit the area
    Monday morning, with just post frontal showery conditions expected
    behind it through Tuesday morning. While weak instability behind
    the front may support some briefly heavy rates, the coverage and
    duration of any heavier rainfall should be too short to cause
    impacts with antecedent soil and streamflows running either
    average or below average for early November. This rainfall will
    help increase saturation ahead of the day 4/5 atmospheric
    river...which is expected to be a stronger and more persistent
    system. Thus Marginal risks will continue for the day 4 and 5
    period.

    Chenard


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4AdaDQG-Q7xgb8eyYRQTMZ4DlsByx9m3-yz6Rl_RejxY= XEXur5XsdLFlo43UisqYuGXvVf2sEaQRt7yXTH42Ph5ipFA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4AdaDQG-Q7xgb8eyYRQTMZ4DlsByx9m3-yz6Rl_RejxY= XEXur5XsdLFlo43UisqYuGXvVf2sEaQRt7yXTH42xjei6oU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4AdaDQG-Q7xgb8eyYRQTMZ4DlsByx9m3-yz6Rl_RejxY= XEXur5XsdLFlo43UisqYuGXvVf2sEaQRt7yXTH42ETjlI6U$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 10 08:14:28 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 100814
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    314 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS CENTRAL AND
    SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...

    Southwest and Central Louisiana...=20
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the=20
    vicinity of Raphael northwest to north across portions of the=20
    Central Gulf Coast through the Tennessee Valley. A slowly=20
    advancing convective complex early this morning across southwest LA
    is drifting eastward, showing hourly rain totals to 3" and=20
    isolated totals to 13" thus far over portions of Allen Parish.=20
    There is concern that this complex could hold together past 12z,=20
    which is part of the reason for the upgrade to a Slight Risk, after coordinating with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office.=20
    Additional activity could form behind it closer to a surface=20
    boundary in TX (could be forming at the present time) which is=20
    expected to advect eastward during daytime heating. Moderate Risk=20
    level impacts cannot be ruled out should such thunderstorm activity
    persist over recently saturated soils into this afternoon.


    Southeast Louisiana...
    The guidance broadly remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall=20
    gets too far ashore southeast LA while mesoscale guidance shows the
    complex to the west fizzling as it moves into the region.=20
    Precipitable water values of 1.5-2" Sunday morning across southeast
    LA advect offshore with time, which should limit heavy rainfall=20
    concerns. Still, hourly rain totals to 2" and local totals to 4"=20
    are possible on an isolated basis should storms backbuild or train.



    Interior Southeast/Mid-South/Tennessee Valley...=20
    The forward progress of the front should keep any excessive=20
    rainfall concerns minimal in areas a bit north of the Gulf Coast=20
    -- some of the risk area from eastern AR to the east-northeast just
    south of the OH river accounts for recent rains/some soil=20
    saturation. In this more northern portion of the Marginal Risk=20
    area, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be
    the maximum potential. A decent amount of the area within the=20
    Marginal Risk would find the forecasted rainfall welcome.

    Changes to continuity were to shave off some of the northeast=20
    portion of the Marginal Risk area, using 00z HREF probabilities of=20
    0.5"+ as a guide, and include some of far southeast Texas to=20
    account for the limited QPF signal there as soils are a bit more=20
    sensitive after the past 24-36 hours of heavy rainfall. Central and
    Southeast LA remain within the Marginal Risk for similar reasons,=20
    concerns about locally heavy rains over saturated soils from recent
    heavy rain. The 00z HREF had low, but existent, probabilities of
    3"+ during the day 1/Sunday morning into early Monday time frame.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    WESTERN WASHINGTON...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front=20
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to=20
    60 kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited=20
    instability available near and behind the front. The ingredients=20
    appear to be there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be
    most problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts=20
    of 3-4" are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be=20
    most problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic=20
    Peninsula. Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited=20
    Marginal Risk area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8c-A0rdsMNZHVCH_SQet2G_MU0xkzZQqC_u6LIHna_FO= UNqMq6sJ_nc0OXQLdtHhXqhkptLrti1E36fdzEIjQq_mAkw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8c-A0rdsMNZHVCH_SQet2G_MU0xkzZQqC_u6LIHna_FO= UNqMq6sJ_nc0OXQLdtHhXqhkptLrti1E36fdzEIjByybvPg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8c-A0rdsMNZHVCH_SQet2G_MU0xkzZQqC_u6LIHna_FO= UNqMq6sJ_nc0OXQLdtHhXqhkptLrti1E36fdzEIjwGJxl7c$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 10 09:25:02 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 100924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    424 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS CENTRAL AND
    SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...

    Southwest and Central Louisiana...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northwest to north across portions of the
    Central Gulf Coast through the Tennessee Valley. A slowly
    advancing convective complex early this morning across southwest LA
    is drifting eastward, showing hourly rain totals to 3" and
    isolated totals to 13" thus far over portions of Allen Parish.
    There is concern that this complex could hold together past 12z,
    which is part of the reason for the upgrade to a Slight Risk, after coordinating with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office.
    Additional activity could form behind it closer to a surface
    boundary in TX (could be forming at the present time) which is
    expected to advect eastward during daytime heating. Moderate Risk
    level impacts cannot be ruled out should such thunderstorm activity
    persist over recently saturated soils into this afternoon.


    Southeast Louisiana...
    The guidance broadly remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall
    gets too far ashore southeast LA while mesoscale guidance shows the
    complex to the west fizzling as it moves into the region.
    Precipitable water values of 1.5-2" Sunday morning across southeast
    LA advect offshore with time, which should limit heavy rainfall
    concerns. Still, hourly rain totals to 2" and local totals to 4"
    are possible on an isolated basis should storms backbuild or train.



    Interior Southeast/Mid-South/Tennessee Valley...
    The forward progress of the front should keep any excessive
    rainfall concerns minimal in areas a bit north of the Gulf Coast
    -- some of the risk area from eastern AR to the east-northeast just
    south of the OH river accounts for recent rains/some soil
    saturation. In this more northern portion of the Marginal Risk
    area, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be
    the maximum potential. A decent amount of the area within the
    Marginal Risk would find the forecasted rainfall welcome.

    Changes to continuity were to shave off some of the northeast
    portion of the Marginal Risk area, using 00z HREF probabilities of
    0.5"+ as a guide, and include some of far southeast Texas to
    account for the limited QPF signal there as soils are a bit more
    sensitive after the past 24-36 hours of heavy rainfall.=20

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    WESTERN WASHINGTON...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to
    60 kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited
    instability available near and behind the front. The ingredients
    appear to be there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be
    most problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts
    of 3-4" are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be
    most problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic
    Peninsula. Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited
    Marginal Risk area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kvhLCkZY1IM2rNEvrY0rpvZNem0Jw81UTcCw7OkUGyM= kBNwPTKKiwad5yPzScWTJYIUWJVsnEFDMMzBA9DwhV7cQnw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kvhLCkZY1IM2rNEvrY0rpvZNem0Jw81UTcCw7OkUGyM= kBNwPTKKiwad5yPzScWTJYIUWJVsnEFDMMzBA9DwSTYkCMI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5kvhLCkZY1IM2rNEvrY0rpvZNem0Jw81UTcCw7OkUGyM= kBNwPTKKiwad5yPzScWTJYIUWJVsnEFDMMzBA9DwKOSLKMs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 10 15:20:53 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 101520
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1020 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN AND
    NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND SURROUNDINGS, AS WELL AS CENTRAL LOUISIANA...

    ...16z Update...

    A Slight Risk has been added for western/northern KY and
    surroundings, where 2-3" of rainfall over the past 3-6 hours has
    led to a reduction in FFGs to 1.0" or less locally (and to 1.5-2.5"
    for a broader surrounding area. With additional localized totals=20
    of 2-3" anticipated over this saturated terrain, scattered
    instances of flash flooding are possible (see MPD #1150 for more=20 information). The Marginal Risk area was also expanded considerably
    north and east of what was inherited, due to isentropic upglide
    having the potential to result in localized totals of 2"+ (per
    40-km neighborhood probabilities for 2" exceedance as high as 10%)
    with corresponding short-term FFGs of 1.5-2.0".=20

    Elsewhere, only minor adjustments were necessary. The Slight Risk
    for central LA and surroundings was reduced in size, confined to
    where FFGs have been depressed to 2.0" or less due to the recent
    extreme rainfall totals (as additional localized totals should
    remain below that threshold).=20

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest and Central Louisiana...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northwest to north across portions of the
    Central Gulf Coast through the Tennessee Valley. A slowly
    advancing convective complex early this morning across southwest LA
    is drifting eastward, showing hourly rain totals to 3" and
    isolated totals to 13" thus far over portions of Allen Parish.
    There is concern that this complex could hold together past 12z,
    which is part of the reason for the upgrade to a Slight Risk, after coordinating with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office.
    Additional activity could form behind it closer to a surface
    boundary in TX (could be forming at the present time) which is
    expected to advect eastward during daytime heating. Moderate Risk
    level impacts cannot be ruled out should such thunderstorm activity
    persist over recently saturated soils into this afternoon.


    Southeast Louisiana...
    The guidance broadly remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall
    gets too far ashore southeast LA while mesoscale guidance shows the
    complex to the west fizzling as it moves into the region.
    Precipitable water values of 1.5-2" Sunday morning across southeast
    LA advect offshore with time, which should limit heavy rainfall
    concerns. Still, hourly rain totals to 2" and local totals to 4"
    are possible on an isolated basis should storms backbuild or train.



    Interior Southeast/Mid-South/Tennessee Valley...
    The forward progress of the front should keep any excessive
    rainfall concerns minimal in areas a bit north of the Gulf Coast
    -- some of the risk area from eastern AR to the east-northeast just
    south of the OH river accounts for recent rains/some soil
    saturation. In this more northern portion of the Marginal Risk
    area, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be
    the maximum potential. A decent amount of the area within the
    Marginal Risk would find the forecasted rainfall welcome.

    Changes to continuity were to shave off some of the northeast
    portion of the Marginal Risk area, using 00z HREF probabilities of
    0.5"+ as a guide, and include some of far southeast Texas to
    account for the limited QPF signal there as soils are a bit more
    sensitive after the past 24-36 hours of heavy rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    WESTERN WASHINGTON...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to
    60 kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited
    instability available near and behind the front. The ingredients
    appear to be there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be
    most problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts
    of 3-4" are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be
    most problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic
    Peninsula. Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited
    Marginal Risk area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!41h9fAIpRjKHpPQpoOFVeSQ_kKJAY8CKo90Lv_Uh1U_0= mplk2sLYHiRwJS7cFA3CKu5r6PLB-PfWwDSsYXApMP2INwI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!41h9fAIpRjKHpPQpoOFVeSQ_kKJAY8CKo90Lv_Uh1U_0= mplk2sLYHiRwJS7cFA3CKu5r6PLB-PfWwDSsYXAp7MgQj_Y$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!41h9fAIpRjKHpPQpoOFVeSQ_kKJAY8CKo90Lv_Uh1U_0= mplk2sLYHiRwJS7cFA3CKu5r6PLB-PfWwDSsYXApezhWDU4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 10 19:19:45 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 101919
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    219 PM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN AND
    NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND SURROUNDINGS, AS WELL AS CENTRAL LOUISIANA...

    ...16z Update...

    A Slight Risk has been added for western/northern KY and
    surroundings, where 2-3" of rainfall over the past 3-6 hours has
    led to a reduction in FFGs to 1.0" or less locally (and to 1.5-2.5"
    for a broader surrounding area. With additional localized totals
    of 2-3" anticipated over this saturated terrain, scattered
    instances of flash flooding are possible (see MPD #1150 for more
    information). The Marginal Risk area was also expanded considerably
    north and east of what was inherited, due to isentropic upglide
    having the potential to result in localized totals of 2"+ (per
    40-km neighborhood probabilities for 2" exceedance as high as 10%)
    with corresponding short-term FFGs of 1.5-2.0".

    Elsewhere, only minor adjustments were necessary. The Slight Risk
    for central LA and surroundings was reduced in size, confined to
    where FFGs have been depressed to 2.0" or less due to the recent
    extreme rainfall totals (as additional localized totals should
    remain below that threshold).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    Southwest and Central Louisiana...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northwest to north across portions of the
    Central Gulf Coast through the Tennessee Valley. A slowly
    advancing convective complex early this morning across southwest LA
    is drifting eastward, showing hourly rain totals to 3" and
    isolated totals to 13" thus far over portions of Allen Parish.
    There is concern that this complex could hold together past 12z,
    which is part of the reason for the upgrade to a Slight Risk, after coordinating with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office.
    Additional activity could form behind it closer to a surface
    boundary in TX (could be forming at the present time) which is
    expected to advect eastward during daytime heating. Moderate Risk
    level impacts cannot be ruled out should such thunderstorm activity
    persist over recently saturated soils into this afternoon.


    Southeast Louisiana...
    The guidance broadly remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall
    gets too far ashore southeast LA while mesoscale guidance shows the
    complex to the west fizzling as it moves into the region.
    Precipitable water values of 1.5-2" Sunday morning across southeast
    LA advect offshore with time, which should limit heavy rainfall
    concerns. Still, hourly rain totals to 2" and local totals to 4"
    are possible on an isolated basis should storms backbuild or train.



    Interior Southeast/Mid-South/Tennessee Valley...
    The forward progress of the front should keep any excessive
    rainfall concerns minimal in areas a bit north of the Gulf Coast
    -- some of the risk area from eastern AR to the east-northeast just
    south of the OH river accounts for recent rains/some soil
    saturation. In this more northern portion of the Marginal Risk
    area, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be
    the maximum potential. A decent amount of the area within the
    Marginal Risk would find the forecasted rainfall welcome.

    Changes to continuity were to shave off some of the northeast
    portion of the Marginal Risk area, using 00z HREF probabilities of
    0.5"+ as a guide, and include some of far southeast Texas to
    account for the limited QPF signal there as soils are a bit more
    sensitive after the past 24-36 hours of heavy rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN=20
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk area over
    western WA/OR. Still on track for a slightly stronger atmospheric
    river to begin impacting these areas between 00z-12z Wednesday.
    Combining this system and the previous one today into=20
    Tuesday...and rainfall totals from Sunday through 12z Wed should=20
    average 3-5" across terrain areas, with as much as 5-7" over the=20
    Olympic Peninsula. Thus the uptick in rainfall rates with this AR=20
    Tuesday night should be enough to result in at least minor flood=20
    impacts given gradually saturating soil conditions and rising=20
    streamflows with time.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front=20
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern=20
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 60
    kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited instability
    available near and behind the front. The ingredients appear to be=20
    there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be most=20
    problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts of 3-4"
    are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be most=20
    problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic Peninsula.=20
    Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited Marginal Risk=20
    area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kKNh5q6m-sbtwpxrmroKCROSo2GBFP8qGk2sHthOS7E= jUHAa8oqGPvu7YXuS8Kh6A1iBNxgyGXdBgPWVJHGsd8E2Ek$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kKNh5q6m-sbtwpxrmroKCROSo2GBFP8qGk2sHthOS7E= jUHAa8oqGPvu7YXuS8Kh6A1iBNxgyGXdBgPWVJHGeRqBiEk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7kKNh5q6m-sbtwpxrmroKCROSo2GBFP8qGk2sHthOS7E= jUHAa8oqGPvu7YXuS8Kh6A1iBNxgyGXdBgPWVJHGTUE0A4A$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 11 00:27:49 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 110027
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    727 PM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS A PORTION
    OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY...

    Satellite and radar trend from the late afternoon and early=20
    evening have been for decreasing coverage of convection capable of=20
    producing locally heavy rainfall amounts and rates. The 18Z run of=20
    the HREF and its associated neighborhood probability of exceedance=20
    guidance still suggests some spotty coverage of 10 percent chance=20
    of rainfall rates exceeding 1 inch per hour through 11/05Z or=20
    11/06Z. So was able to trim much of the Slight and Marginal risk=20
    areas. Kept a small portion of the Marginal risk over the=20
    southeastern tip of Louisiana given deeper moisture still=20
    circulating around Post Tropical Cyclone Rafael and the way the 18Z
    HREF keeps some 1-inch and 2-inch per hour neighborhood=20
    probabilities lurking right near the coastline overnight. Based on=20 radar...can't entirely rule it out while having only a low-end=20
    amount of confidence that it will occur. Farther north...MRMS=20
    showed maximum rainfall amount around a quarter of an inch per 3=20
    hours over an area with dry antecedent conditions. So the Marginal
    was removed there.


    Day 2=20
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    20z Update: No changes to the inherited Marginal risk area over
    western WA/OR. Still on track for a slightly stronger atmospheric
    river to begin impacting these areas between 00z-12z Wednesday.
    Combining this system and the previous one today into
    Tuesday...and rainfall totals from Sunday through 12z Wed should
    average 3-5" across terrain areas, with as much as 5-7" over the
    Olympic Peninsula. Thus the uptick in rainfall rates with this AR
    Tuesday night should be enough to result in at least minor flood
    impacts given gradually saturating soil conditions and rising
    streamflows with time.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 60
    kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited instability
    available near and behind the front. The ingredients appear to be
    there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be most
    problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts of 3-4"
    are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be most
    problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic Peninsula.
    Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited Marginal Risk
    area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6n43e14KBmNHkwfy1tlRdtChRpHGBx9ezsqvvKb5K07Z= _9Gus_WSiHXhkvyKGqVV2EqkM1Zv-27YOINz71eRshOc-2U$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6n43e14KBmNHkwfy1tlRdtChRpHGBx9ezsqvvKb5K07Z= _9Gus_WSiHXhkvyKGqVV2EqkM1Zv-27YOINz71eR8mzgaVM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6n43e14KBmNHkwfy1tlRdtChRpHGBx9ezsqvvKb5K07Z= _9Gus_WSiHXhkvyKGqVV2EqkM1Zv-27YOINz71eRe94e0Tc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 11 07:51:37 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 110751
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    251 AM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal=20
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the=20
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned=20
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink=20
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary=20
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of=20
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.=20
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end=20
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG=20
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with=20
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but=20
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities=20
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone=20
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across=20
    both AL/MS.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture=20
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash=20
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the=20
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between=20
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second=20
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with=20
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest=20
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the=20
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within=20
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of=20
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT=20
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean=20
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash=20
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.=20
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest=20
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals=20
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on=20 Wednesday.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a=20
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the=20
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr=20
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal=20
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA=20
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an=20
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day=20
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"=20
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic=20
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized=20
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from=20 southwesterly flow.=20

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will=20
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.=20

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.=20

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62jHQCEu_FCz6R7FY7VeV2EbcD5uhGbvvmLLMUAnkrmR= jdSdUczUHy0WIpoF0MMddcGTI6_SFOl-OJIQG-2mMAQ9qJY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62jHQCEu_FCz6R7FY7VeV2EbcD5uhGbvvmLLMUAnkrmR= jdSdUczUHy0WIpoF0MMddcGTI6_SFOl-OJIQG-2mY1SjEbo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62jHQCEu_FCz6R7FY7VeV2EbcD5uhGbvvmLLMUAnkrmR= jdSdUczUHy0WIpoF0MMddcGTI6_SFOl-OJIQG-2mEYmPCS8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 11 15:48:19 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 111547
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1047 AM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...16Z update...

    A non-zero threat for flash flooding will remain across the central
    Gulf Coast through early Tuesday morning. GPS data from early this
    morning showed precipitable water values at or just above 2 inches
    in the western FL Panhandle and low level convergence near a
    boundary/front in the vicinity of the Gulf Coast will support
    locally heavy rainfall in the offshore waters which could migrate
    to coastal sections through tonight. While moisture is anomalously
    high, instability is forecast to remain limited for inland=20
    locations while ML/MUCAPE up to a few hundred J/kg remains=20
    restricted to coastal sections through Tuesday morning. The=20
    biggest change from overnight and the 12Z hires guidance is a shift
    toward the east with the highest QPF but otherwise the forecast
    reasoning in the previous discussion remains on track. A non- zero
    threat appears to exist from far southeastern LA to the western FL
    Panhandle, along coastal locations where slow moving/repeating=20
    cells could produce locally excessive rainfall.


    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across
    both AL/MS.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on
    Wednesday.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from
    southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-SPVnoIl_HZCM7alTy_xkTOKdwQvtRKZaDaphcI-lx0x= -mowGKFCXBkbFomC-rHsnvYkKEvP2rBTJSA_5DxuJ6-Rfqg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-SPVnoIl_HZCM7alTy_xkTOKdwQvtRKZaDaphcI-lx0x= -mowGKFCXBkbFomC-rHsnvYkKEvP2rBTJSA_5DxuuHjn-MA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-SPVnoIl_HZCM7alTy_xkTOKdwQvtRKZaDaphcI-lx0x= -mowGKFCXBkbFomC-rHsnvYkKEvP2rBTJSA_5DxuBPuSufI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 11 17:53:44 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 111753
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1253 PM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...16Z update...

    A non-zero threat for flash flooding will remain across the central
    Gulf Coast through early Tuesday morning. GPS data from early this
    morning showed precipitable water values at or just above 2 inches
    in the western FL Panhandle and low level convergence near a
    boundary/front in the vicinity of the Gulf Coast will support
    locally heavy rainfall in the offshore waters which could migrate
    to coastal sections through tonight. While moisture is anomalously
    high, instability is forecast to remain limited for inland
    locations while ML/MUCAPE up to a few hundred J/kg remains
    restricted to coastal sections through Tuesday morning. The
    biggest change from overnight and the 12Z hires guidance is a shift
    toward the east with the highest QPF but otherwise the forecast
    reasoning in the previous discussion remains on track. A non- zero
    threat appears to exist from far southeastern LA to the western FL
    Panhandle, along coastal locations where slow moving/repeating
    cells could produce locally excessive rainfall.


    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across
    both AL/MS.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed based on the new 12z data. Inherited Marginal
    Risk area was maintained, and the excessive rainfall threat remains
    below Marginal Risk criteria elsewhere (though is non-zero along
    the central Gulf Coast, where localized 1"+ totals are possible).=20

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on
    Wednesday.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed for this update, as both of the inherited
    Marginal Risk areas remain on track with the latest 12z data.
    Introduction of a Slight Risk area for portions of the Southeast
    CONUS remains possible with future updates (should solutions like
    the 00z ECMWF or 12z UKMET pan out), but disagreement among model
    solutions will preclude an upgrade at this time.=20

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from
    southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YkvbaOUJxh_tmkiamJ6kareNZoeo6-b65pLZYWyJWMO= 681Velerdn5COxOM_UItba7YaEkzuEKs0BAGMnKphxK0u5A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YkvbaOUJxh_tmkiamJ6kareNZoeo6-b65pLZYWyJWMO= 681Velerdn5COxOM_UItba7YaEkzuEKs0BAGMnKpzTdTcwg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6YkvbaOUJxh_tmkiamJ6kareNZoeo6-b65pLZYWyJWMO= 681Velerdn5COxOM_UItba7YaEkzuEKs0BAGMnKpXnU2SXI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 11 20:56:24 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 112056
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    356 PM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...16Z update...

    A non-zero threat for flash flooding will remain across the central
    Gulf Coast through early Tuesday morning. GPS data from early this
    morning showed precipitable water values at or just above 2 inches
    in the western FL Panhandle and low level convergence near a
    boundary/front in the vicinity of the Gulf Coast will support
    locally heavy rainfall in the offshore waters which could migrate
    to coastal sections through tonight. While moisture is anomalously
    high, instability is forecast to remain limited for inland
    locations while ML/MUCAPE up to a few hundred J/kg remains
    restricted to coastal sections through Tuesday morning. The
    biggest change from overnight and the 12Z hires guidance is a shift
    toward the east with the highest QPF but otherwise the forecast
    reasoning in the previous discussion remains on track. A non- zero
    threat appears to exist from far southeastern LA to the western FL
    Panhandle, along coastal locations where slow moving/repeating
    cells could produce locally excessive rainfall.


    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across
    both AL/MS.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed based on the new 12z data. Inherited Marginal
    Risk area was maintained, and the excessive rainfall threat remains
    below Marginal Risk criteria elsewhere (though is non-zero along
    the central Gulf Coast, where localized 1"+ totals are possible).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on
    Wednesday.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed for this update, as both of the inherited
    Marginal Risk areas remain on track with the latest 12z data.
    Introduction of a Slight Risk area for portions of the Southeast
    CONUS remains possible with future updates (should solutions like
    the 00z ECMWF or 12z UKMET pan out), but disagreement among model
    solutions will preclude an upgrade at this time.

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from
    southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-BPcQzQMiyqi8VUTow8qk0XLIE_O0A4WjuAGTmmamGOl= k3e27rJ8a33-y9TSsqEBvIhfHQbngWait-EoJIA8s-8rizY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-BPcQzQMiyqi8VUTow8qk0XLIE_O0A4WjuAGTmmamGOl= k3e27rJ8a33-y9TSsqEBvIhfHQbngWait-EoJIA8UuxmEDI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-BPcQzQMiyqi8VUTow8qk0XLIE_O0A4WjuAGTmmamGOl= k3e27rJ8a33-y9TSsqEBvIhfHQbngWait-EoJIA8XYC_DuQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 12 00:22:50 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 120022
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    722 PM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...01Z update...

    A non-zero threat for flash flooding lingers into the overnight
    hours across the central Gulf Coast. GPS data continued to show=20
    precipitable water values at or just above 2 inches lingering
    immediately off of the western FL Panhandle and low level=20
    convergent flow near a boundary/front in the vicinity of the Gulf=20
    Coast which will support locally heavy rainfall in the offshore=20
    waters. This combination could ease towards the coastal sections=20
    during the night. While moisture is anomalously high, instability=20
    is forecast to remain limited for inland locations while ML/MUCAPE=20
    up to a few hundred J/kg remains restricted to coastal sections=20
    through Tuesday morning. For that reason...it still appears that=20
    there is a non- zero threat of excessive rainfall from far=20
    southeastern Louisiana to the western Florida Panhandle, confined=20
    to coastal locations, where slow moving/repeating cells could=20
    produce locally excessive rainfall.

    Otto/Bann

    ...previous discussion follows...


    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across
    both AL/MS.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed based on the new 12z data. Inherited Marginal
    Risk area was maintained, and the excessive rainfall threat remains
    below Marginal Risk criteria elsewhere (though is non-zero along
    the central Gulf Coast, where localized 1"+ totals are possible).

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on
    Wednesday.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...2030z Update...

    No changes needed for this update, as both of the inherited
    Marginal Risk areas remain on track with the latest 12z data.
    Introduction of a Slight Risk area for portions of the Southeast
    CONUS remains possible with future updates (should solutions like
    the 00z ECMWF or 12z UKMET pan out), but disagreement among model
    solutions will preclude an upgrade at this time.

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from
    southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_zPhlteoYR3MVUkFRmkUOtB08v5DPET_ScY42Bthq8Xx= tSQZvy8xQHTH7_p37PJMuoqfSHEiqGaKqhyTo0aZVLD0JlQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_zPhlteoYR3MVUkFRmkUOtB08v5DPET_ScY42Bthq8Xx= tSQZvy8xQHTH7_p37PJMuoqfSHEiqGaKqhyTo0aZTpPVZ60$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_zPhlteoYR3MVUkFRmkUOtB08v5DPET_ScY42Bthq8Xx= tSQZvy8xQHTH7_p37PJMuoqfSHEiqGaKqhyTo0aZhd4Vq68$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 120751
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    251 AM EST Tue Nov 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    The previous forecast remains steadfast with the expected totals
    and evolution of our next disturbance progged to enter the PAC
    Northwest. The next Atmospheric River is currently maneuvering
    through the Northeast Pacific with a well-defined IVT pulse located
    around the base of a strong, closed upper low and associated
    surface cyclone churning over the North Pacific as indicated via
    the latest CIMSS MIMIC-TPW satellite derived product. PWAT=20
    anomalies between 1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the=20
    region by the second half of the period with the heaviest precip=20
    likely coinciding with the initial moisture surge into the coastal=20
    plain, forecast between 21-03z Wednesday (Late-afternoon and early
    evening PST). Some modest instability will be focused along the=20
    immediate coast as defined by the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE
    output within the ensemble blend (HREF/NBM). Rates will be=20
    generally ~0.5"/hr within the heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr
    rates are plausible within the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as=20
    well the immediate coast of WA down into Northwest OR. This is the=20
    primary axis of the IVT pulse with a distinct west to southwest=20
    orientation of the mean flow. This initial surge will be more of a=20
    primer for the following day as the pattern spills beyond Wednesday
    morning, but some isolated flash flood concerns are plausible=20
    within the initial surge of the AR. The previously inherited MRGL=20
    risk was maintained coinciding with the higher (>50%) 12-hr=20
    probabilities of exceeding 2". Totals will be generally between=20
    1-3" with isolated to 5" into the Olympic Peninsula.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND OHIO VALLEY ...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Minimal changes were necessary from the previous forecast issuance
    as guidance maintains relevant continuity. Atmospheric River from=20
    the D1 period continues through much of the D2 time frame with a=20
    waning signal towards Wednesday night into Thursday. IVT core will=20
    come ashore between Astoria down through the King Range of=20
    Northwest CA with a signal for an additional 2-4" of rainfall with
    locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic enhancement in- of=20
    the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a steady- state of=20
    0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the primary core of the
    IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr with some 1-1.5"/hr=20
    rates plausible across those elevated coastal areas of OR and=20
    Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA state with the=20
    heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an additional 3-5"=20
    likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Multi-day totals over the=20
    coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6" with a max of 8"=20
    confined to both the Klamath- Siskiyou and Olympic Ranges thanks to
    some orographic enhancement providing localized QPF maxima that is
    customary from AR orientations extending from southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    There has been a growing consensus on the expansion of convective
    activity across the Deep South into the Ohio Valley with a
    formidable heavy rain signature located across the Gulf coast where
    the best instability footprint is located, and across the Southern
    Ohio Valley where ascent will be maximized within the diffluent
    area of the upstream shortwave trough in tandem with the
    approaching cold front. QPF off the recent 00z HREF blended mean=20
    in the final 12-hrs signifies some potential for significant totals
    2" with a few CAMs depicting as much as 6" across portions of LA
    and MS with more of a 2-4" plateau across the Ohio Valley. Ensemble
    means are generally stable at 1-2" across a large area, but might
    be smoothing out the higher totals as is the bias of the ensemble
    blend. In any case, the pattern is certainly favorable for at least
    isolated prospects for flash flooding, especially in South-Central
    LA where recent QPE from 48 hrs prior sat at 5-10" with locally
    higher, so the threat in this locale is greatly enhanced just due
    to the antecedent soil moisture anomalies within the past few days.
    Further north is not nearly as robust in the soil moisture
    anomalies, however some areas within TN and Western KY do have=20
    some lingering top-layer soil moisture from the same event that=20
    occurred in LA. The previous MRGL risk was maintained with a minor=20 adjustment north into Southern IN as reflected within the latest=20
    QPF trends and expected northern edge of the heaviest precip=20
    Wednesday night into Thursday. Discrepancy in the exact placement=20
    of heavier convection across the Gulf states deterred an additional
    upgrade over the region, however the threat for at least one risk=20
    category higher is in play as we move closer to the event. For now,
    a blanket MRGL risk was sufficient with the potential for an=20
    upgrade plausible in the next few forecast updates.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7yhZL-ZHGB7TxCOfDP3rymw1G3S19BRnrXQTndP_w2jO= pjrjD-kIy3PvlqLKxE9pStC-F3ysYpqQe4nkHKxlxXzoaow$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7yhZL-ZHGB7TxCOfDP3rymw1G3S19BRnrXQTndP_w2jO= pjrjD-kIy3PvlqLKxE9pStC-F3ysYpqQe4nkHKxlDWzZmtw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7yhZL-ZHGB7TxCOfDP3rymw1G3S19BRnrXQTndP_w2jO= pjrjD-kIy3PvlqLKxE9pStC-F3ysYpqQe4nkHKxly0xzWFE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 12 15:25:15 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 121524
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1024 AM EST Tue Nov 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...16Z update...

    Did not see a need to make any changes to the overnight Marginal
    Risk area. Heavy rain with potential for occasional rainfall rates
    in excess of 0.5 in/hr should begin after 00Z tonight for the=20
    Olympics, Coastal Ranges and Washington Cascades, and continue
    through much of the night. 12Z hires guidance is in good agreement
    with the thinking discussed in the previous outlook.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    The previous forecast remains steadfast with the expected totals
    and evolution of our next disturbance progged to enter the PAC
    Northwest. The next Atmospheric River is currently maneuvering
    through the Northeast Pacific with a well-defined IVT pulse located
    around the base of a strong, closed upper low and associated
    surface cyclone churning over the North Pacific as indicated via
    the latest CIMSS MIMIC-TPW satellite derived product. PWAT
    anomalies between 1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the
    region by the second half of the period with the heaviest precip
    likely coinciding with the initial moisture surge into the coastal
    plain, forecast between 21-03z Wednesday (Late-afternoon and early
    evening PST). Some modest instability will be focused along the
    immediate coast as defined by the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE
    output within the ensemble blend (HREF/NBM). Rates will be
    generally ~0.5"/hr within the heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr
    rates are plausible within the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as
    well the immediate coast of WA down into Northwest OR. This is the
    primary axis of the IVT pulse with a distinct west to southwest
    orientation of the mean flow. This initial surge will be more of a
    primer for the following day as the pattern spills beyond Wednesday
    morning, but some isolated flash flood concerns are plausible
    within the initial surge of the AR. The previously inherited MRGL
    risk was maintained coinciding with the higher (>50%) 12-hr
    probabilities of exceeding 2". Totals will be generally between
    1-3" with isolated to 5" into the Olympic Peninsula.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND OHIO VALLEY ...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Minimal changes were necessary from the previous forecast issuance
    as guidance maintains relevant continuity. Atmospheric River from
    the D1 period continues through much of the D2 time frame with a
    waning signal towards Wednesday night into Thursday. IVT core will
    come ashore between Astoria down through the King Range of
    Northwest CA with a signal for an additional 2-4" of rainfall with
    locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic enhancement in- of
    the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a steady- state of
    0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the primary core of the
    IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr with some 1-1.5"/hr
    rates plausible across those elevated coastal areas of OR and
    Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA state with the
    heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an additional 3-5"
    likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Multi-day totals over the
    coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6" with a max of 8"
    confined to both the Klamath- Siskiyou and Olympic Ranges thanks to
    some orographic enhancement providing localized QPF maxima that is
    customary from AR orientations extending from southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    There has been a growing consensus on the expansion of convective
    activity across the Deep South into the Ohio Valley with a
    formidable heavy rain signature located across the Gulf coast where
    the best instability footprint is located, and across the Southern
    Ohio Valley where ascent will be maximized within the diffluent
    area of the upstream shortwave trough in tandem with the
    approaching cold front. QPF off the recent 00z HREF blended mean
    in the final 12-hrs signifies some potential for significant totals
    2" with a few CAMs depicting as much as 6" across portions of LA
    and MS with more of a 2-4" plateau across the Ohio Valley. Ensemble
    means are generally stable at 1-2" across a large area, but might
    be smoothing out the higher totals as is the bias of the ensemble
    blend. In any case, the pattern is certainly favorable for at least
    isolated prospects for flash flooding, especially in South-Central
    LA where recent QPE from 48 hrs prior sat at 5-10" with locally
    higher, so the threat in this locale is greatly enhanced just due
    to the antecedent soil moisture anomalies within the past few days.
    Further north is not nearly as robust in the soil moisture
    anomalies, however some areas within TN and Western KY do have
    some lingering top-layer soil moisture from the same event that
    occurred in LA. The previous MRGL risk was maintained with a minor
    adjustment north into Southern IN as reflected within the latest
    QPF trends and expected northern edge of the heaviest precip
    Wednesday night into Thursday. Discrepancy in the exact placement
    of heavier convection across the Gulf states deterred an additional
    upgrade over the region, however the threat for at least one risk
    category higher is in play as we move closer to the event. For now,
    a blanket MRGL risk was sufficient with the potential for an
    upgrade plausible in the next few forecast updates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-O4jdxDvkKYqRu_8SA1C7D1NoC04yj5zVd49FycD4kGu= qmm4TyEfiYWBPkT4uy5POd9yFUsVvfuUu-U7KSLiboI5By0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-O4jdxDvkKYqRu_8SA1C7D1NoC04yj5zVd49FycD4kGu= qmm4TyEfiYWBPkT4uy5POd9yFUsVvfuUu-U7KSLixVTVJ-w$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-O4jdxDvkKYqRu_8SA1C7D1NoC04yj5zVd49FycD4kGu= qmm4TyEfiYWBPkT4uy5POd9yFUsVvfuUu-U7KSLiLGTbbAg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 12 18:02:15 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 121802
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    102 PM EST Tue Nov 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...16Z update...

    Did not see a need to make any changes to the overnight Marginal
    Risk area. Heavy rain with potential for occasional rainfall rates
    in excess of 0.5 in/hr should begin after 00Z tonight for the
    Olympics, Coastal Ranges and Washington Cascades, and continue
    through much of the night. 12Z hires guidance is in good agreement
    with the thinking discussed in the previous outlook.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    The previous forecast remains steadfast with the expected totals
    and evolution of our next disturbance progged to enter the PAC
    Northwest. The next Atmospheric River is currently maneuvering
    through the Northeast Pacific with a well-defined IVT pulse located
    around the base of a strong, closed upper low and associated
    surface cyclone churning over the North Pacific as indicated via
    the latest CIMSS MIMIC-TPW satellite derived product. PWAT
    anomalies between 1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the
    region by the second half of the period with the heaviest precip
    likely coinciding with the initial moisture surge into the coastal
    plain, forecast between 21-03z Wednesday (Late-afternoon and early
    evening PST). Some modest instability will be focused along the
    immediate coast as defined by the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE
    output within the ensemble blend (HREF/NBM). Rates will be
    generally ~0.5"/hr within the heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr
    rates are plausible within the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as
    well the immediate coast of WA down into Northwest OR. This is the
    primary axis of the IVT pulse with a distinct west to southwest
    orientation of the mean flow. This initial surge will be more of a
    primer for the following day as the pattern spills beyond Wednesday
    morning, but some isolated flash flood concerns are plausible
    within the initial surge of the AR. The previously inherited MRGL
    risk was maintained coinciding with the higher (>50%) 12-hr
    probabilities of exceeding 2". Totals will be generally between
    1-3" with isolated to 5" into the Olympic Peninsula.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND OHIO VALLEY ...

    ...2030z Update...

    Little change needed from what was inherited, as both Marginal Risk
    areas remain on track with the updated QPF. A targeted upgrade to a
    Slight Risk remains possible over portions of the Southeast, mainly
    for southern MS and surroundings where the risk for 3-5" amounts is
    greatest (per 40-km HREF neighborhood probabilities). That said,
    not all CAMs suggest these amounts will occur, including the HRRR
    (which remains one of the weaker solutions with localized totals
    remaining under 3"). Given that this same region has some of the
    driest antecedent conditions (FFGs generally ranging from 3-4"),
    the Marginal Risk remains sufficient at this time.=20

    Churchill


    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Minimal changes were necessary from the previous forecast issuance
    as guidance maintains relevant continuity. Atmospheric River from
    the D1 period continues through much of the D2 time frame with a
    waning signal towards Wednesday night into Thursday. IVT core will
    come ashore between Astoria down through the King Range of
    Northwest CA with a signal for an additional 2-4" of rainfall with
    locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic enhancement in- of
    the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a steady- state of
    0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the primary core of the
    IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr with some 1-1.5"/hr
    rates plausible across those elevated coastal areas of OR and
    Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA state with the
    heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an additional 3-5"
    likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Multi-day totals over the
    coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6" with a max of 8"
    confined to both the Klamath- Siskiyou and Olympic Ranges thanks to
    some orographic enhancement providing localized QPF maxima that is
    customary from AR orientations extending from southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    There has been a growing consensus on the expansion of convective
    activity across the Deep South into the Ohio Valley with a
    formidable heavy rain signature located across the Gulf coast where
    the best instability footprint is located, and across the Southern
    Ohio Valley where ascent will be maximized within the diffluent
    area of the upstream shortwave trough in tandem with the
    approaching cold front. QPF off the recent 00z HREF blended mean
    in the final 12-hrs signifies some potential for significant totals
    2" with a few CAMs depicting as much as 6" across portions of LA
    and MS with more of a 2-4" plateau across the Ohio Valley. Ensemble
    means are generally stable at 1-2" across a large area, but might
    be smoothing out the higher totals as is the bias of the ensemble
    blend. In any case, the pattern is certainly favorable for at least
    isolated prospects for flash flooding, especially in South-Central
    LA where recent QPE from 48 hrs prior sat at 5-10" with locally
    higher, so the threat in this locale is greatly enhanced just due
    to the antecedent soil moisture anomalies within the past few days.
    Further north is not nearly as robust in the soil moisture
    anomalies, however some areas within TN and Western KY do have
    some lingering top-layer soil moisture from the same event that
    occurred in LA. The previous MRGL risk was maintained with a minor
    adjustment north into Southern IN as reflected within the latest
    QPF trends and expected northern edge of the heaviest precip
    Wednesday night into Thursday. Discrepancy in the exact placement
    of heavier convection across the Gulf states deterred an additional
    upgrade over the region, however the threat for at least one risk
    category higher is in play as we move closer to the event. For now,
    a blanket MRGL risk was sufficient with the potential for an
    upgrade plausible in the next few forecast updates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill/Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-eu9hLmc8h2Gy7rhIksMjqp193ZcDJbpkQqXYBvx_Dxi= 0TOshv7OsgPKhF1UHwtwAYP0xc-4SoE_2iWyKHQyhIxdt7g$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-eu9hLmc8h2Gy7rhIksMjqp193ZcDJbpkQqXYBvx_Dxi= 0TOshv7OsgPKhF1UHwtwAYP0xc-4SoE_2iWyKHQyOMK0XlQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-eu9hLmc8h2Gy7rhIksMjqp193ZcDJbpkQqXYBvx_Dxi= 0TOshv7OsgPKhF1UHwtwAYP0xc-4SoE_2iWyKHQyd7cv8wI$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 122340=20
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    640 PM EST Tue Nov 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    ...01Z update...

    The main focus for any excessive rainfall through 12Z Wednesday
    remains in parts of the coastal Pacific Northwest U.S. with
    expected rainfall amounts and rainfall rates to be fairly modest.=20
    Occasional rainfall rates in excess of 0.5 in/hr are possible later
    this evening for the Olympics, Coastal Ranges and Washington=20
    Cascades, and continue through much of the overnight with amounts
    generally in the 2 to 4 inch range. 12Z hires guidance is in good=20
    agreement with the thinking discussed in the previous outlook.

    Otto/Bann


    ...previous discussion follows...

    The previous forecast remains steadfast with the expected totals
    and evolution of our next disturbance progged to enter the PAC
    Northwest. The next Atmospheric River is currently maneuvering
    through the Northeast Pacific with a well-defined IVT pulse located
    around the base of a strong, closed upper low and associated
    surface cyclone churning over the North Pacific as indicated via
    the latest CIMSS MIMIC-TPW satellite derived product. PWAT
    anomalies between 1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the
    region by the second half of the period with the heaviest precip
    likely coinciding with the initial moisture surge into the coastal
    plain, forecast between 21-03z Wednesday (Late-afternoon and early
    evening PST). Some modest instability will be focused along the
    immediate coast as defined by the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE
    output within the ensemble blend (HREF/NBM). Rates will be
    generally ~0.5"/hr within the heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr
    rates are plausible within the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as
    well the immediate coast of WA down into Northwest OR. This is the
    primary axis of the IVT pulse with a distinct west to southwest
    orientation of the mean flow. This initial surge will be more of a
    primer for the following day as the pattern spills beyond Wednesday
    morning, but some isolated flash flood concerns are plausible
    within the initial surge of the AR. The previously inherited MRGL
    risk was maintained coinciding with the higher (>50%) 12-hr
    probabilities of exceeding 2". Totals will be generally between
    1-3" with isolated to 5" into the Olympic Peninsula.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND OHIO VALLEY ...

    ...2030Z Update...
    Little change needed from what was inherited, as both Marginal Risk
    areas remain on track with the updated QPF. A targeted upgrade to a
    Slight Risk remains possible over portions of the Southeast, mainly
    for southern MS and surroundings where the risk for 3-5" amounts is
    greatest (per 40-km HREF neighborhood probabilities). That said,
    not all CAMs suggest these amounts will occur, including the HRRR
    (which remains one of the weaker solutions with localized totals
    remaining under 3"). Given that this same region has some of the
    driest antecedent conditions (FFGs generally ranging from 3-4"),
    the Marginal Risk remains sufficient at this time.

    Churchill

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Minimal changes were necessary from the previous forecast issuance
    as guidance maintains relevant continuity. Atmospheric River from
    the D1 period continues through much of the D2 time frame with a
    waning signal towards Wednesday night into Thursday. IVT core will
    come ashore between Astoria down through the King Range of
    Northwest CA with a signal for an additional 2-4" of rainfall with
    locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic enhancement in- of
    the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a steady- state of
    0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the primary core of the
    IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr with some 1-1.5"/hr
    rates plausible across those elevated coastal areas of OR and
    Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA state with the
    heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an additional 3-5"
    likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Multi-day totals over the
    coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6" with a max of 8"
    confined to both the Klamath- Siskiyou and Olympic Ranges thanks to
    some orographic enhancement providing localized QPF maxima that is
    customary from AR orientations extending from southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    There has been a growing consensus on the expansion of convective
    activity across the Deep South into the Ohio Valley with a
    formidable heavy rain signature located across the Gulf coast where
    the best instability footprint is located, and across the Southern
    Ohio Valley where ascent will be maximized within the diffluent
    area of the upstream shortwave trough in tandem with the
    approaching cold front. QPF off the recent 00z HREF blended mean
    in the final 12-hrs signifies some potential for significant totals
    2" with a few CAMs depicting as much as 6" across portions of LA
    and MS with more of a 2-4" plateau across the Ohio Valley. Ensemble
    means are generally stable at 1-2" across a large area, but might
    be smoothing out the higher totals as is the bias of the ensemble
    blend. In any case, the pattern is certainly favorable for at least
    isolated prospects for flash flooding, especially in South-Central
    LA where recent QPE from 48 hrs prior sat at 5-10" with locally
    higher, so the threat in this locale is greatly enhanced just due
    to the antecedent soil moisture anomalies within the past few days.
    Further north is not nearly as robust in the soil moisture
    anomalies, however some areas within TN and Western KY do have
    some lingering top-layer soil moisture from the same event that
    occurred in LA. The previous MRGL risk was maintained with a minor
    adjustment north into Southern IN as reflected within the latest
    QPF trends and expected northern edge of the heaviest precip
    Wednesday night into Thursday. Discrepancy in the exact placement
    of heavier convection across the Gulf states deterred an additional
    upgrade over the region, however the threat for at least one risk
    category higher is in play as we move closer to the event. For now,
    a blanket MRGL risk was sufficient with the potential for an
    upgrade plausible in the next few forecast updates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill/Kleebauer


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    FOUS30 KWBC 130749
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    249 AM EST Wed Nov 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE DEEP SOUTH...

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A 1034mb surface ridge is currently analyzed over the Great Lakes=20
    and adjacent Ontario Province with an expected translation eastward
    over the next 24 hrs leading to an increasing return flow pattern=20
    over the Southeastern U.S. Current v-vector anomalies pinpoint the=20
    strongest return flow between sfc-850mb bisecting areas from LA=20
    into MS and Western AL leading to ample moisture being pulled=20
    poleward as far north as the Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies on the=20
    order of +2 to +3 deviations will be co-located with the strongest=20
    v-vector component leading to a broadening area of elevated
    moisture and accompanying theta-E's indicative of greater
    instability, especially the closer you are to the Gulf. Across the
    Plains, a potent shortwave trough will shift eastward with
    increasing mid and upper level ascent across areas downstream
    within the Low to Mid-Mississippi Valley area. The combination of
    the pattern evolution will aid in increased convective development
    and coverage, especially as we work through the late-morning time
    frame and beyond during the period.=20

    Heavy rain potential will be on the rise with the introduction of
    the thunderstorm risk with rainfall totals from the latest HREF
    blended mean now sufficiently into the 1.5"+ territory with
    associated CAMs signaling isolated totals >4" during the time frame
    of convective impact. This has ramped up probabilistic signals with
    the neighborhood probs now upwards of 40-70% across portions of
    South-Central LA through much of MS with the highest probs located
    over the MS Delta over to Jackson. Organized convective pattern is
    most likely to occur over this area thanks to the approach of a
    cold front upstream stemming from surface low development over the
    Southern Plains, moving northeast through the Mississippi Valley
    after nightfall. Hourly rates within the heaviest convection across
    the Deep South is likely to range from 1-2"/hr on average, but some
    non-zero prospects for 2.5-3"/hr persists within the CAMs and
    expressed through the probability fields on the 00z HREF output.
    Typically these signals would warrant a MRGL risk for excessive
    rainfall, but considering the soils across parts of LA and MS still
    recovering from the onslaught of heavy precip from a few days
    prior, the antecedent environment is a bit more conducive for flash
    flood prospects. In coordination with the local WFOs within LA and
    MS, a Slight Risk was added to encompass areas where heavier
    convection is most likely considering the pattern evolution, as
    well as covering the areas where top layer soil moisture anomalies
    lie above the 70th percentile as reported by the updated NASA SPoRT
    data.

    The remainder of the Southeast and points up into the Ohio Valley
    will maintain the previous MRGL risk forecast with only a minor
    expansion to the north and east to account for some of the trends
    of increasing heavy rainfall potential through Northern KY as the=20
    system remains fairly progressive in its forward propagation.=20
    Limited instability will also cap the risk for significant rainfall
    rates, but instances of >1"/hr are certainly plausible considering
    the prime mid-level evolution and approaching cold front providing
    surface based forcing. Totals will be closer to the 1-2" range for
    most, but 2-3" is within reason in the heaviest rain cores.=20

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from this evening will continue to unfold across
    the Pacific Northwest with the IVT pulse orienting further south
    through the morning and early afternoon with heavy rain impacting
    areas of Southwest OR through much of Northwestern CA with the
    heaviest rain focused at the immediate coast into the interior
    terrain aligning from the Klamath Mountains down towards the King
    Range south of Eureka. The forecast has been very consistent on the
    threat the past several days with little deviation in the expected
    outcome with totals ranging from 2-4" at the immediate coast from
    WA down through Northern CA with 3-6", local maxima of 8" during
    the 48-hr period of impact over places like the Olympic Range in WA
    state and the Klamath Range down in Southwestern OR. The premise of
    the MRGL risk was mainly for 3 or 6 hour FFG exceedance intervals,
    along with some 24 hour FFG potential, mainly located over the
    Olympics for the latter index. Hourly rates will be majority sub-=20
    FFG exceedance, however some 1-1.5"/hr rates during the height of=20
    the IVT surge Wednesday morning over the coastal mountain ranges=20
    could be sufficient for isolated flooding prospects before becoming
    more of an accumulative rainfall concern over time. The one area=20
    where the heavier precip is not anticipated but still a relative=20
    concern remains in the area located south of Mount Shasta and=20
    points west where remnant burn scars maintain locally lower FFG=20
    indices leading to a heightened threat for flash flooding where the
    scarring is located. This is the reason for the inland extent=20
    across Northern CA and to maintain consistent messaging with the=20
    local WFO for the threat.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 13 15:53:53 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 131553
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1053 AM EST Wed Nov 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE DEEP SOUTH...

    ...16Z update...

    Across The lower Mississippi Valley, an axis of low level
    convergence extending northward from a surface low located just
    south of the Louisiana coast has resulted in training and=20
    repeating of heavy rain this morning near I-10/I-49 in the vicinity
    of Lafayette. While some of the hires models (including the HRRR)=20
    have been underdone with the localized higher rainfall totals=20
    through 15Z this morning, there is good agreement that the flash=20
    flood threat will shift northward through Mississippi during the=20
    afternoon with the highest instability focusing potentially the=20
    greatest rainfall totals across Louisiana and Mississippi into the=20
    early overnight, prior to the rainfall shifting eastward. The=20
    Marginal and Slight Risks were trimmed a bit on the west side to=20
    account for the latest radar/short-term model trends but the
    outlook was otherwise left the same as earlier.

    For the West Coast, the maximum IVT axis was moving across northern
    California this morning with locally heavy rain embedded within.
    While the axis of IVT will weaken and shift south ahead of the cold
    front moving through the region today, weak instability in the=20
    post-frontal environment will continue to support=20
    showers/thunderstorms with high short-term rainfall rate potential
    from northern California into western Washington. Due to this=20
    consideration and various burn scars across the region, the=20
    Marginal Risk was left in place for this update.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A 1034mb surface ridge is currently analyzed over the Great Lakes
    and adjacent Ontario Province with an expected translation eastward
    over the next 24 hrs leading to an increasing return flow pattern
    over the Southeastern U.S. Current v-vector anomalies pinpoint the
    strongest return flow between sfc-850mb bisecting areas from LA
    into MS and Western AL leading to ample moisture being pulled
    poleward as far north as the Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies on the
    order of +2 to +3 deviations will be co-located with the strongest
    v-vector component leading to a broadening area of elevated
    moisture and accompanying theta-E's indicative of greater
    instability, especially the closer you are to the Gulf. Across the
    Plains, a potent shortwave trough will shift eastward with
    increasing mid and upper level ascent across areas downstream
    within the Low to Mid-Mississippi Valley area. The combination of
    the pattern evolution will aid in increased convective development
    and coverage, especially as we work through the late-morning time
    frame and beyond during the period.

    Heavy rain potential will be on the rise with the introduction of
    the thunderstorm risk with rainfall totals from the latest HREF
    blended mean now sufficiently into the 1.5"+ territory with
    associated CAMs signaling isolated totals >4" during the time frame
    of convective impact. This has ramped up probabilistic signals with
    the neighborhood probs now upwards of 40-70% across portions of
    South-Central LA through much of MS with the highest probs located
    over the MS Delta over to Jackson. Organized convective pattern is
    most likely to occur over this area thanks to the approach of a
    cold front upstream stemming from surface low development over the
    Southern Plains, moving northeast through the Mississippi Valley
    after nightfall. Hourly rates within the heaviest convection across
    the Deep South is likely to range from 1-2"/hr on average, but some
    non-zero prospects for 2.5-3"/hr persists within the CAMs and
    expressed through the probability fields on the 00z HREF output.
    Typically these signals would warrant a MRGL risk for excessive
    rainfall, but considering the soils across parts of LA and MS still
    recovering from the onslaught of heavy precip from a few days
    prior, the antecedent environment is a bit more conducive for flash
    flood prospects. In coordination with the local WFOs within LA and
    MS, a Slight Risk was added to encompass areas where heavier
    convection is most likely considering the pattern evolution, as
    well as covering the areas where top layer soil moisture anomalies
    lie above the 70th percentile as reported by the updated NASA SPoRT
    data.

    The remainder of the Southeast and points up into the Ohio Valley
    will maintain the previous MRGL risk forecast with only a minor
    expansion to the north and east to account for some of the trends
    of increasing heavy rainfall potential through Northern KY as the
    system remains fairly progressive in its forward propagation.
    Limited instability will also cap the risk for significant rainfall
    rates, but instances of >1"/hr are certainly plausible considering
    the prime mid-level evolution and approaching cold front providing
    surface based forcing. Totals will be closer to the 1-2" range for
    most, but 2-3" is within reason in the heaviest rain cores.

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from this evening will continue to unfold across
    the Pacific Northwest with the IVT pulse orienting further south
    through the morning and early afternoon with heavy rain impacting
    areas of Southwest OR through much of Northwestern CA with the
    heaviest rain focused at the immediate coast into the interior
    terrain aligning from the Klamath Mountains down towards the King
    Range south of Eureka. The forecast has been very consistent on the
    threat the past several days with little deviation in the expected
    outcome with totals ranging from 2-4" at the immediate coast from
    WA down through Northern CA with 3-6", local maxima of 8" during
    the 48-hr period of impact over places like the Olympic Range in WA
    state and the Klamath Range down in Southwestern OR. The premise of
    the MRGL risk was mainly for 3 or 6 hour FFG exceedance intervals,
    along with some 24 hour FFG potential, mainly located over the
    Olympics for the latter index. Hourly rates will be majority sub-
    FFG exceedance, however some 1-1.5"/hr rates during the height of
    the IVT surge Wednesday morning over the coastal mountain ranges
    could be sufficient for isolated flooding prospects before becoming
    more of an accumulative rainfall concern over time. The one area
    where the heavier precip is not anticipated but still a relative
    concern remains in the area located south of Mount Shasta and
    points west where remnant burn scars maintain locally lower FFG
    indices leading to a heightened threat for flash flooding where the
    scarring is located. This is the reason for the inland extent
    across Northern CA and to maintain consistent messaging with the
    local WFO for the threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8VsI0I55aVXzMI0Yd9ga4nYb43QSrJXoYdRk4-uhdoky= KYKzsYCoMChKarB7SEB7SEVoB5SsNvK-PfnDBgUY_iZNWSc$=20
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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 13 19:10:29 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 131910
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    210 PM EST Wed Nov 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE DEEP SOUTH...

    ...16Z update...

    Across The lower Mississippi Valley, an axis of low level
    convergence extending northward from a surface low located just
    south of the Louisiana coast has resulted in training and
    repeating of heavy rain this morning near I-10/I-49 in the vicinity
    of Lafayette. While some of the hires models (including the HRRR)
    have been underdone with the localized higher rainfall totals
    through 15Z this morning, there is good agreement that the flash
    flood threat will shift northward through Mississippi during the
    afternoon with the highest instability focusing potentially the
    greatest rainfall totals across Louisiana and Mississippi into the
    early overnight, prior to the rainfall shifting eastward. The
    Marginal and Slight Risks were trimmed a bit on the west side to
    account for the latest radar/short-term model trends but the
    outlook was otherwise left the same as earlier.

    For the West Coast, the maximum IVT axis was moving across northern
    California this morning with locally heavy rain embedded within.
    While the axis of IVT will weaken and shift south ahead of the cold
    front moving through the region today, weak instability in the
    post-frontal environment will continue to support
    showers/thunderstorms with high short-term rainfall rate potential
    from northern California into western Washington. Due to this
    consideration and various burn scars across the region, the
    Marginal Risk was left in place for this update.

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A 1034mb surface ridge is currently analyzed over the Great Lakes
    and adjacent Ontario Province with an expected translation eastward
    over the next 24 hrs leading to an increasing return flow pattern
    over the Southeastern U.S. Current v-vector anomalies pinpoint the
    strongest return flow between sfc-850mb bisecting areas from LA
    into MS and Western AL leading to ample moisture being pulled
    poleward as far north as the Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies on the
    order of +2 to +3 deviations will be co-located with the strongest
    v-vector component leading to a broadening area of elevated
    moisture and accompanying theta-E's indicative of greater
    instability, especially the closer you are to the Gulf. Across the
    Plains, a potent shortwave trough will shift eastward with
    increasing mid and upper level ascent across areas downstream
    within the Low to Mid-Mississippi Valley area. The combination of
    the pattern evolution will aid in increased convective development
    and coverage, especially as we work through the late-morning time
    frame and beyond during the period.

    Heavy rain potential will be on the rise with the introduction of
    the thunderstorm risk with rainfall totals from the latest HREF
    blended mean now sufficiently into the 1.5"+ territory with
    associated CAMs signaling isolated totals >4" during the time frame
    of convective impact. This has ramped up probabilistic signals with
    the neighborhood probs now upwards of 40-70% across portions of
    South-Central LA through much of MS with the highest probs located
    over the MS Delta over to Jackson. Organized convective pattern is
    most likely to occur over this area thanks to the approach of a
    cold front upstream stemming from surface low development over the
    Southern Plains, moving northeast through the Mississippi Valley
    after nightfall. Hourly rates within the heaviest convection across
    the Deep South is likely to range from 1-2"/hr on average, but some
    non-zero prospects for 2.5-3"/hr persists within the CAMs and
    expressed through the probability fields on the 00z HREF output.
    Typically these signals would warrant a MRGL risk for excessive
    rainfall, but considering the soils across parts of LA and MS still
    recovering from the onslaught of heavy precip from a few days
    prior, the antecedent environment is a bit more conducive for flash
    flood prospects. In coordination with the local WFOs within LA and
    MS, a Slight Risk was added to encompass areas where heavier
    convection is most likely considering the pattern evolution, as
    well as covering the areas where top layer soil moisture anomalies
    lie above the 70th percentile as reported by the updated NASA SPoRT
    data.

    The remainder of the Southeast and points up into the Ohio Valley
    will maintain the previous MRGL risk forecast with only a minor
    expansion to the north and east to account for some of the trends
    of increasing heavy rainfall potential through Northern KY as the
    system remains fairly progressive in its forward propagation.
    Limited instability will also cap the risk for significant rainfall
    rates, but instances of >1"/hr are certainly plausible considering
    the prime mid-level evolution and approaching cold front providing
    surface based forcing. Totals will be closer to the 1-2" range for
    most, but 2-3" is within reason in the heaviest rain cores.

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from this evening will continue to unfold across
    the Pacific Northwest with the IVT pulse orienting further south
    through the morning and early afternoon with heavy rain impacting
    areas of Southwest OR through much of Northwestern CA with the
    heaviest rain focused at the immediate coast into the interior
    terrain aligning from the Klamath Mountains down towards the King
    Range south of Eureka. The forecast has been very consistent on the
    threat the past several days with little deviation in the expected
    outcome with totals ranging from 2-4" at the immediate coast from
    WA down through Northern CA with 3-6", local maxima of 8" during
    the 48-hr period of impact over places like the Olympic Range in WA
    state and the Klamath Range down in Southwestern OR. The premise of
    the MRGL risk was mainly for 3 or 6 hour FFG exceedance intervals,
    along with some 24 hour FFG potential, mainly located over the
    Olympics for the latter index. Hourly rates will be majority sub-
    FFG exceedance, however some 1-1.5"/hr rates during the height of
    the IVT surge Wednesday morning over the coastal mountain ranges
    could be sufficient for isolated flooding prospects before becoming
    more of an accumulative rainfall concern over time. The one area
    where the heavier precip is not anticipated but still a relative
    concern remains in the area located south of Mount Shasta and
    points west where remnant burn scars maintain locally lower FFG
    indices leading to a heightened threat for flash flooding where the
    scarring is located. This is the reason for the inland extent
    across Northern CA and to maintain consistent messaging with the
    local WFO for the threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9Lo3GQBe25OoLv5jxQfHH930CugJNq_mbKBRm_EWxsp4= e5z7UFaDksY0qYQ2SoBJ_NHYZZZYLkHBfVYZyki1_lpVgic$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9Lo3GQBe25OoLv5jxQfHH930CugJNq_mbKBRm_EWxsp4= e5z7UFaDksY0qYQ2SoBJ_NHYZZZYLkHBfVYZyki1-F7AhtE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9Lo3GQBe25OoLv5jxQfHH930CugJNq_mbKBRm_EWxsp4= e5z7UFaDksY0qYQ2SoBJ_NHYZZZYLkHBfVYZyki1aQJ81Sw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 14 00:57:43 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 140057
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    757 PM EST Wed Nov 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI AND ALABAMA INTO FAR WESTERN PARTS OF THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE...

    ...0100 UTC Update...
    Based on the latest observational and mesoanalysis trends, have
    pared the western periphery of the Marginal Risk area across the
    central and southern MS Valley, while also shifting the Slight Risk
    region to parts of southeast MS into southern AL and far western
    FL. This was based on the latest HREF and HRRR output, along with
    the fact that the FFG values in and around the MOB area are lower comparatively.=20

    Hurley


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!57dUM93DJD57Ob65bi5dEwkUDfXwOwilZZSXg9b2vp1y= lRLD4hAf85cPRzthqhQ3KzaQyiCN-XsxJSz2T07BAOjDn1c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!57dUM93DJD57Ob65bi5dEwkUDfXwOwilZZSXg9b2vp1y= lRLD4hAf85cPRzthqhQ3KzaQyiCN-XsxJSz2T07BPPa2YDY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!57dUM93DJD57Ob65bi5dEwkUDfXwOwilZZSXg9b2vp1y= lRLD4hAf85cPRzthqhQ3KzaQyiCN-XsxJSz2T07BLzKTI_0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 14 07:54:54 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 140754
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    254 AM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Maturing surface cyclone off the VA/NC coast will amplify
    rainfall prospects over the VA Tidewater into Eastern NC late this
    afternoon and evening with a developing axis of deformation driving
    elevated convective concerns in the aforementioned areas. Totals
    between 1.5-3" are forecast within these zones with some minor
    flooding possible over urban zones and the immediate coast,
    coinciding with coastal flooding likely occurring. Rainfall rates
    will fall short of the necessary criteria to meet FFG exceedance,
    however a non-zero threat will exist for flash flood concerns
    across Northern NC into Southern and Southeast VA in urban zones
    that are more prone to flooding prospects. This is still below the
    5% threshold necessary for flash flooding leading to a continued
    nil ERO, but non-zero threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Itm-Q56MnehL1s-R3SqoAx91M_0jc9BID1Xj2FxpL_J= 5FnTcT-gSRK_TJ_4x_-scGuMYW7WXzz-HZ52xwhEmwb7zaI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Itm-Q56MnehL1s-R3SqoAx91M_0jc9BID1Xj2FxpL_J= 5FnTcT-gSRK_TJ_4x_-scGuMYW7WXzz-HZ52xwhEiuFBBw4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Itm-Q56MnehL1s-R3SqoAx91M_0jc9BID1Xj2FxpL_J= 5FnTcT-gSRK_TJ_4x_-scGuMYW7WXzz-HZ52xwhElYjQelg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 14 15:58:54 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 141558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1058 AM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...16Z update...

    Similar thinking to the previous outlook applies, where in a
    worst-case scenario, localized flash flooding could develop in the
    vicinity of the Outer Banks/eastern NC/southeastern VA. However,
    the 12Z hires guidance has trended down from last night with any
    appreciable instability remaining limited to the barrier islands.=20

    There is good consensus for 3+ inches from the 12Z HREF to fall=20
    through 12Z in/around Cape Hatteras, but potential for high=20
    rainfall rates remains below the FFG thresholds. See additional=20
    forecast details below...

    Otto

    ...previous discussion follows...


    Maturing surface cyclone off the VA/NC coast will amplify
    rainfall prospects over the VA Tidewater into Eastern NC late this
    afternoon and evening with a developing axis of deformation driving
    elevated convective concerns in the aforementioned areas. Totals
    between 1.5-3" are forecast within these zones with some minor
    flooding possible over urban zones and the immediate coast,
    coinciding with coastal flooding likely occurring. Rainfall rates
    will fall short of the necessary criteria to meet FFG exceedance,
    however a non-zero threat will exist for flash flood concerns
    across Northern NC into Southern and Southeast VA in urban zones
    that are more prone to flooding prospects. This is still below the
    5% threshold necessary for flash flooding leading to a continued
    nil ERO, but non-zero threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vkUq2N8P0dxR3ezW8fyZiQlUS6d4neAXYv78X6dVMAT= lc8GEFns9ob_pvQKlk4C9kJlygkF0Y-m0Zi8u9N1BG_myuE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vkUq2N8P0dxR3ezW8fyZiQlUS6d4neAXYv78X6dVMAT= lc8GEFns9ob_pvQKlk4C9kJlygkF0Y-m0Zi8u9N1Z71LC3o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5vkUq2N8P0dxR3ezW8fyZiQlUS6d4neAXYv78X6dVMAT= lc8GEFns9ob_pvQKlk4C9kJlygkF0Y-m0Zi8u9N1wHuKWfo$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 14 17:45:51 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 141745
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1245 PM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...16Z update...

    Similar thinking to the previous outlook applies, where in a
    worst-case scenario, localized flash flooding could develop in the
    vicinity of the Outer Banks/eastern NC/southeastern VA. However,
    the 12Z hires guidance has trended down from last night with any
    appreciable instability remaining limited to the barrier islands.

    There is good consensus for 3+ inches from the 12Z HREF to fall
    through 12Z in/around Cape Hatteras, but potential for high
    rainfall rates remains below the FFG thresholds. See additional
    forecast details below...

    Otto

    ...Previous discussion follows...


    Maturing surface cyclone off the VA/NC coast will amplify
    rainfall prospects over the VA Tidewater into Eastern NC late this
    afternoon and evening with a developing axis of deformation driving
    elevated convective concerns in the aforementioned areas. Totals
    between 1.5-3" are forecast within these zones with some minor
    flooding possible over urban zones and the immediate coast,
    coinciding with coastal flooding likely occurring. Rainfall rates
    will fall short of the necessary criteria to meet FFG exceedance,
    however a non-zero threat will exist for flash flood concerns
    across Northern NC into Southern and Southeast VA in urban zones
    that are more prone to flooding prospects. This is still below the
    5% threshold necessary for flash flooding leading to a continued
    nil ERO, but non-zero threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6GUvNbXW1LFZCyO_NvfhsFhpzC3qe-5g9z2Gf85Xx4k3= 5iQy8kSn59OEs2roFofRzKIeO28zgzU7uH85qUwzg5kL9Vs$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6GUvNbXW1LFZCyO_NvfhsFhpzC3qe-5g9z2Gf85Xx4k3= 5iQy8kSn59OEs2roFofRzKIeO28zgzU7uH85qUwzUvK9IJI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6GUvNbXW1LFZCyO_NvfhsFhpzC3qe-5g9z2Gf85Xx4k3= 5iQy8kSn59OEs2roFofRzKIeO28zgzU7uH85qUwzQodsMYw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 15 00:43:46 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 150043
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    743 PM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    ...01Z update...
    Similar thinking to the previous outlook applies, where in a=20
    worst-case scenario, localized flash flooding could develop in the=20
    vicinity of the Outer Banks/eastern NC/southeastern VA. There is=20
    good consensus for 3+ inches from the 18Z HREF to fall through 12Z=20
    in/around Cape Hatteras, but potential for high rainfall rates=20
    remains below the FFG thresholds. 18Z HREF does snow high
    probabilities (70+ percent) of >1"/hr rainfall rates across the NC
    OBX, including Cape Hatteras, between 06-10Z. Probabilities of 2+=20
    in/hr rates peak between 40-50% between 08-10Z, while peak 3hr=20
    probs of 3+ in/hr rates top out between 50-60%. Latest 3 hourly FFG
    across the NC OBX is 4+ inches, so again even with the latest=20
    ensemble guidance, it does continue to appear these rainfall rates=20
    will fall short of the latest FFG thresholds. This as the greater=20
    deep-layer instability (MUCAPEs over 500 J/Kg) remains offshore.=20

    Hurley/Otto

    ...Previous discussion...
    Maturing surface cyclone off the VA/NC coast will amplify rainfall
    prospects over the VA Tidewater into Eastern NC late this afternoon
    and evening with a developing axis of deformation driving elevated
    convective concerns in the aforementioned areas. Totals between=20
    1.5-3" are forecast within these zones with some minor flooding=20
    possible over urban zones and the immediate coast, coinciding with=20
    coastal flooding likely occurring. Rainfall rates will fall short=20
    of the necessary criteria to meet FFG exceedance, however a non-
    zero threat will exist for flash flood concerns across Northern NC=20
    into Southern and Southeast VA in urban zones that are more prone=20
    to flooding prospects. This is still below the 5% threshold=20
    necessary for flash flooding leading to a continued nil ERO, but=20
    non-zero threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Pereira


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Wt07jkfTguuNanmuSfAergUGPgB4uSKDvvPPnXMSaEY= jMKz9d5ukwGbOwsIMNlLLEC5NZ1JV2YoY9NSgavjHRUInAM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Wt07jkfTguuNanmuSfAergUGPgB4uSKDvvPPnXMSaEY= jMKz9d5ukwGbOwsIMNlLLEC5NZ1JV2YoY9NSgavjPesaROs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Wt07jkfTguuNanmuSfAergUGPgB4uSKDvvPPnXMSaEY= jMKz9d5ukwGbOwsIMNlLLEC5NZ1JV2YoY9NSgavjYgm5bZk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 15 07:55:52 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 150755
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    255 AM EST Fri Nov 15 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    An upper trough traversing through the West this weekend is
    expected to split which will send energy in the Northern
    Plains/Upper Midwest along with a strong southern stream cutoff low=20
    into the Four Corner that will exit into the Central/Southern=20
    Plains for the start of the week. A surface low pressure system
    will forecast to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and deepen as it
    tracks from the Plains through the Midwest. Scattered to widespread
    moderate to heavy rainfall will be supported by this setup across
    portions of the Southern Rockies and the adjacent Southern/Central
    Plains.

    Guidance is suggesting 1 to 2 inches of rain for central and
    eastern portions of New Mexico, particularly over some of the same
    areas that had several inches of snow last week. With rain on top=20
    of snow expected some locations will have an increased risk for=20
    flooding concerns. The Marginal Risk area that was already in=20
    effect was expanded westward to now cover central and eastern=20
    portions of New Mexico. The highest concentration of rainfall will
    likely focus across parts of northern Texas/panhandle into western
    Oklahoma. Consensus suggests areal average of 3 to 4.5 inches with
    locally higher amounts possible. Therefore, a Slight Risk was
    introduced with this issuance.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GzARLZY2UN_CgINDqQEv4KbsiSFvXFg4xcKlp9MZZny= 8emC2i_2IIhNM6QzAEMdf0e7JtEHIvYb-b1kQ_3I_6F3spI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GzARLZY2UN_CgINDqQEv4KbsiSFvXFg4xcKlp9MZZny= 8emC2i_2IIhNM6QzAEMdf0e7JtEHIvYb-b1kQ_3IckYVzOE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GzARLZY2UN_CgINDqQEv4KbsiSFvXFg4xcKlp9MZZny= 8emC2i_2IIhNM6QzAEMdf0e7JtEHIvYb-b1kQ_3ImXNzLjk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 15 15:35:55 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 151535
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1035 AM EST Fri Nov 15 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    An upper trough traversing through the West this weekend is
    expected to split which will send energy in the Northern
    Plains/Upper Midwest along with a strong southern stream cutoff low
    into the Four Corner that will exit into the Central/Southern
    Plains for the start of the week. A surface low pressure system
    will forecast to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and deepen as it
    tracks from the Plains through the Midwest. Scattered to widespread
    moderate to heavy rainfall will be supported by this setup across
    portions of the Southern Rockies and the adjacent Southern/Central
    Plains.

    Guidance is suggesting 1 to 2 inches of rain for central and
    eastern portions of New Mexico, particularly over some of the same
    areas that had several inches of snow last week. With rain on top
    of snow expected some locations will have an increased risk for
    flooding concerns. The Marginal Risk area that was already in
    effect was expanded westward to now cover central and eastern
    portions of New Mexico. The highest concentration of rainfall will
    likely focus across parts of northern Texas/panhandle into western
    Oklahoma. Consensus suggests areal average of 3 to 4.5 inches with
    locally higher amounts possible. Therefore, a Slight Risk was
    introduced with this issuance.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6u3Gwnsk1QL3t_o3SGsGHV8M0aulpxxxLSDbLJ3D-0d3= A8Sfff6MIelpatIFsVCun7VdxZ_epMw6I3ax3zZ1iEqp0aI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6u3Gwnsk1QL3t_o3SGsGHV8M0aulpxxxLSDbLJ3D-0d3= A8Sfff6MIelpatIFsVCun7VdxZ_epMw6I3ax3zZ19RJKKYI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6u3Gwnsk1QL3t_o3SGsGHV8M0aulpxxxLSDbLJ3D-0d3= A8Sfff6MIelpatIFsVCun7VdxZ_epMw6I3ax3zZ1HnhTbMY$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri Nov 15 19:22:36 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 151922
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    222 PM EST Fri Nov 15 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Only made minor changes to the inherited Marginal and
    Slight risk area over TX into OK as the forecast looks on track.
    Very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing will move across TX/OK by
    Sunday evening into the overnight hours. This should be enough to
    overcome the limited forecast instability and result in deep=20
    convection and heavy rainfall rates. The latest model consensus is=20
    for 2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"=20
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall=20
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture=20
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely.

    The Marginal risk over western OR also remains. This risk is pretty
    borderline, as the AR is only weak to moderate and is fairly
    progressive. However event total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)=20
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a=20
    narrow southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding=20
    issues could arise along coastal areas/mountains.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper trough traversing through the West this weekend is
    expected to split which will send energy in the Northern
    Plains/Upper Midwest along with a strong southern stream cutoff low
    into the Four Corner that will exit into the Central/Southern
    Plains for the start of the week. A surface low pressure system
    will forecast to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and deepen as it
    tracks from the Plains through the Midwest. Scattered to widespread
    moderate to heavy rainfall will be supported by this setup across
    portions of the Southern Rockies and the adjacent Southern/Central
    Plains.

    Guidance is suggesting 1 to 2 inches of rain for central and
    eastern portions of New Mexico, particularly over some of the same
    areas that had several inches of snow last week. With rain on top
    of snow expected some locations will have an increased risk for
    flooding concerns. The Marginal Risk area that was already in
    effect was expanded westward to now cover central and eastern
    portions of New Mexico. The highest concentration of rainfall will
    likely focus across parts of northern Texas/panhandle into western
    Oklahoma. Consensus suggests areal average of 3 to 4.5 inches with
    locally higher amounts possible. Therefore, a Slight Risk was
    introduced with this issuance.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_3Qd1HcRt3bYMP67Buz5lfQ8V953VRHxv0rqGxj4qxh3= 0Uh1lDZFUEqIjHDzr99HfF5tuMnxq_e0yUsJVp0hF2Ve3S4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_3Qd1HcRt3bYMP67Buz5lfQ8V953VRHxv0rqGxj4qxh3= 0Uh1lDZFUEqIjHDzr99HfF5tuMnxq_e0yUsJVp0h6byOL-c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_3Qd1HcRt3bYMP67Buz5lfQ8V953VRHxv0rqGxj4qxh3= 0Uh1lDZFUEqIjHDzr99HfF5tuMnxq_e0yUsJVp0h5YavseU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 16 00:12:35 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 160012
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    712 PM EST Fri Nov 15 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Only made minor changes to the inherited Marginal and
    Slight risk area over TX into OK as the forecast looks on track.
    Very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing will move across TX/OK by
    Sunday evening into the overnight hours. This should be enough to
    overcome the limited forecast instability and result in deep
    convection and heavy rainfall rates. The latest model consensus is
    for 2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely.

    The Marginal risk over western OR also remains. This risk is pretty
    borderline, as the AR is only weak to moderate and is fairly
    progressive. However event total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a
    narrow southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding
    issues could arise along coastal areas/mountains.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    An upper trough traversing through the West this weekend is
    expected to split which will send energy in the Northern
    Plains/Upper Midwest along with a strong southern stream cutoff low
    into the Four Corner that will exit into the Central/Southern
    Plains for the start of the week. A surface low pressure system
    will forecast to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and deepen as it
    tracks from the Plains through the Midwest. Scattered to widespread
    moderate to heavy rainfall will be supported by this setup across
    portions of the Southern Rockies and the adjacent Southern/Central
    Plains.

    Guidance is suggesting 1 to 2 inches of rain for central and
    eastern portions of New Mexico, particularly over some of the same
    areas that had several inches of snow last week. With rain on top
    of snow expected some locations will have an increased risk for
    flooding concerns. The Marginal Risk area that was already in
    effect was expanded westward to now cover central and eastern
    portions of New Mexico. The highest concentration of rainfall will
    likely focus across parts of northern Texas/panhandle into western
    Oklahoma. Consensus suggests areal average of 3 to 4.5 inches with
    locally higher amounts possible. Therefore, a Slight Risk was
    introduced with this issuance.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ZowWT_yxhDum2kYxtWu3mXf5hDfVeFWFGRaHluzNO5W= q1ZS-5rGGpX2pTq-pDnlogEOE9xyGBxBTV1Dzg9V7U-1t2Q$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ZowWT_yxhDum2kYxtWu3mXf5hDfVeFWFGRaHluzNO5W= q1ZS-5rGGpX2pTq-pDnlogEOE9xyGBxBTV1Dzg9VfmcBhnU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ZowWT_yxhDum2kYxtWu3mXf5hDfVeFWFGRaHluzNO5W= q1ZS-5rGGpX2pTq-pDnlogEOE9xyGBxBTV1Dzg9VnPlpmP8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 16 08:21:19 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 160821
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    321 AM EST Sat Nov 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    and be accompanied with very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing as it
    moves across Texas and Oklahoma by Sunday evening into the=20
    overnight hours. This should be enough to overcome the limited=20
    forecast instability and result in deep convection and heavy=20
    rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and the=20
    adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"=20
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall=20
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture=20
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw a minor expansion to reflect the latest trends
    and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to western
    Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)=20
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues=20
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front=20
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely=20
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained with minor adjustments for this issuance.=20

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone=20
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ktYQzgBTrwpOexHPtJ1HfNupWWTmjrNfGrDnoQ1SzV3= olWiM2_Pu8Nk6iBYi0TrORfPYbAevL4T6vc0vA3gctr8ffg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ktYQzgBTrwpOexHPtJ1HfNupWWTmjrNfGrDnoQ1SzV3= olWiM2_Pu8Nk6iBYi0TrORfPYbAevL4T6vc0vA3gAzu1cqU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6ktYQzgBTrwpOexHPtJ1HfNupWWTmjrNfGrDnoQ1SzV3= olWiM2_Pu8Nk6iBYi0TrORfPYbAevL4T6vc0vA3gPQD24cU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 16 15:58:52 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 161558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1058 AM EST Sat Nov 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE COASTAL
    RANGES OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST...

    Conventional GOES satellite imagery along with ALPW data shows an
    offshore atmospheric river beginning to gradually impinge on the
    Pacific Northwest. An offshore warm front will gradually begin to
    overspread the region by this evening which will coincide with
    strong warm air advection and moisture transport. The latest 12Z=20
    HREF guidance suggests a 40 to 50+ kt low-level jet arriving with=20
    an orientation gradually becoming more orthognal to the coastal
    terrain of western WA including the Olympic Peninsula and extending
    southward down into northwest OR. A cold front will then begin to
    approach and gradually cross western WA by 12Z/Sunday. This
    atmospheric river event will be progressive, but there will be a
    corridor of IVT values locally exceeding 500 kg/m/s tonight across
    these coastal ranges based off the 06Z GFS which seems reasonable=20 considering the elevated CIRA-LVT parameters offshore. Some=20
    rainfall rates associated with the combination of strong warm air=20
    advection and orographic forcing should reach into the 0.25" to=20
    0.50"/hour range between 00Z and 12Z, and this will help facilitate
    some rainfall totals of 2 to 3 inches by 12Z for the windward=20
    slopes of the coastal ranges. Given the expected rates and totals=20
    by early Sunday morning, and thus earlier arrival of this event, a=20
    Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has introduced for this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    and be accompanied with very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing as it
    moves across Texas and Oklahoma by Sunday evening into the
    overnight hours. This should be enough to overcome the limited
    forecast instability and result in deep convection and heavy
    rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and the
    adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw a minor expansion to reflect the latest trends
    and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to western
    Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained with minor adjustments for this
    issuance.

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7A6L4Y0v2GeAjXNdzwDuWqPrejMbPM3OUWswVsZ0pgVa= 6wigMoiwPG3mCzM8Ibku1ryEwtagLevaqOAQ571mXr1j-ck$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7A6L4Y0v2GeAjXNdzwDuWqPrejMbPM3OUWswVsZ0pgVa= 6wigMoiwPG3mCzM8Ibku1ryEwtagLevaqOAQ571m7FSlGPY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7A6L4Y0v2GeAjXNdzwDuWqPrejMbPM3OUWswVsZ0pgVa= 6wigMoiwPG3mCzM8Ibku1ryEwtagLevaqOAQ571mSu2Drkc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat Nov 16 19:31:45 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 161931
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    231 PM EST Sat Nov 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE COASTAL
    RANGES OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST...

    Conventional GOES satellite imagery along with ALPW data shows an
    offshore atmospheric river beginning to gradually impinge on the
    Pacific Northwest. An offshore warm front will gradually begin to
    overspread the region by this evening which will coincide with
    strong warm air advection and moisture transport. The latest 12Z
    HREF guidance suggests a 40 to 50+ kt low-level jet arriving with
    an orientation gradually becoming more orthognal to the coastal
    terrain of western WA including the Olympic Peninsula and extending
    southward down into northwest OR. A cold front will then begin to
    approach and gradually cross western WA by 12Z/Sunday. This
    atmospheric river event will be progressive, but there will be a
    corridor of IVT values locally exceeding 500 kg/m/s tonight across
    these coastal ranges based off the 06Z GFS which seems reasonable
    considering the elevated CIRA-LVT parameters offshore. Some
    rainfall rates associated with the combination of strong warm air
    advection and orographic forcing should reach into the 0.25" to
    0.50"/hour range between 00Z and 12Z, and this will help facilitate
    some rainfall totals of 2 to 3 inches by 12Z for the windward
    slopes of the coastal ranges. Given the expected rates and totals
    by early Sunday morning, and thus earlier arrival of this event, a
    Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has introduced for this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Main change with this update was a minor east and=20
    southeast expansion of the Slight risk over north central TX into=20
    central OK. Model agreement is pretty good on the large scale, but
    as is typically the case, smaller scale convective processes will=20
    likely drive where the heaviest rainfall axis ends up. This is=20
    less predictable and warrants a slightly larger Slight risk area.=20
    If there is a model error with convective QPF placement, more=20
    often than not the heavier QPF is south and east of the forecast.=20
    This is why we were a bit more generous on the east and southeast=20
    side with the Slight area...with the 12z HREF guidance also=20
    supporting the southward expansion.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    and be accompanied with very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing as it
    moves across Texas and Oklahoma by Sunday evening into the
    overnight hours. This should be enough to overcome the limited
    forecast instability and result in deep convection and heavy
    rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and the
    adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw a minor expansion to reflect the latest trends
    and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to western
    Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    20z Update: Only minor changes to the inherited Marginal risk
    areas. We tightened up the Plains Marginal to try to keep it
    focused along/ahead of the low track where weak instability may=20
    briefly enhance rainfall rates. There is some chance we'll need a=20
    Slight risk over portions of OK into south central KS, as a flash=20
    flood threat may be ongoing at 12z Monday (a continuation of the=20
    day 1 Slight risk). However for now will maintain the Marginal and=20
    allow for a look at the overnight HREF guidance.

    There is also a chance we'll need a Slight risk over portions of
    the central Gulf Coast for Monday night. Convection should develop
    and grow upscale during this time, although the stronger model=20
    signal is after 12z Tuesday (and we do have a day 4 Slight risk=20
    covering that threat). Certainly plenty of moisture moving in with
    a deep connection to tropical moisture from the remnants of=20
    Sara...just a question with regards to how quickly we see a more=20
    robust uptick in forcing and convective organization. This is more=20
    likely by Tuesday (day 4), thus will keep this day 3 risk at=20
    Marginal for now and continue to monitor.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained with minor adjustments for this
    issuance.

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5ObbgveIoPJkmw1DtI_DwVoqJnBtuGlSCBXGhNYGeq9V= 4IGmEwSeswDP0XOS4Qbz7QEVkWD2t8Uw8v602G35fAkIlOA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5ObbgveIoPJkmw1DtI_DwVoqJnBtuGlSCBXGhNYGeq9V= 4IGmEwSeswDP0XOS4Qbz7QEVkWD2t8Uw8v602G35eIYGMAw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5ObbgveIoPJkmw1DtI_DwVoqJnBtuGlSCBXGhNYGeq9V= 4IGmEwSeswDP0XOS4Qbz7QEVkWD2t8Uw8v602G35BbmZwEc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 170011
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    711 PM EST Sat Nov 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE COASTAL
    RANGES OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST...

    01Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
    Generally light rain has developed and become more widespread over
    portions of western Washington throughout the afternoon. An
    increase in rainfall rates at or above a quarter of an inch per
    hour is still expected later this evening...probably after 17/03Z
    or so...as the area of rain builds southwards along the coast.
    Thinking is that the better rates...approaching half an inch per
    hour...develop later tonight over central and southern Washington
    into portions of coastal Oregon. Total rainfall amounts still look
    to be on the order of 2 to 3 inches by 17/12Z over portions of the
    coastal ranges with rain persisting beyond 17/12Z.

    Bann


    Previous Excessive Rainfall Discussion...

    Conventional GOES satellite imagery along with ALPW data shows an
    offshore atmospheric river beginning to gradually impinge on the
    Pacific Northwest. An offshore warm front will gradually begin to
    overspread the region by this evening which will coincide with
    strong warm air advection and moisture transport. The latest 12Z
    HREF guidance suggests a 40 to 50+ kt low-level jet arriving with
    an orientation gradually becoming more orthogonal to the coastal
    terrain of western WA including the Olympic Peninsula and extending
    southward down into northwest OR. A cold front will then begin to
    approach and gradually cross western WA by 12Z/Sunday. This
    atmospheric river event will be progressive, but there will be a
    corridor of IVT values locally exceeding 500 kg/m/s tonight across
    these coastal ranges based off the 06Z GFS which seems reasonable
    considering the elevated CIRA-LVT parameters offshore. Some
    rainfall rates associated with the combination of strong warm air
    advection and orographic forcing should reach into the 0.25" to
    0.50"/hour range between 00Z and 12Z, and this will help facilitate
    some rainfall totals of 2 to 3 inches by 12Z for the windward
    slopes of the coastal ranges. Given the expected rates and totals
    by early Sunday morning, and thus earlier arrival of this event, a
    Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has introduced for this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    20z Update: Main change with this update was a minor east and
    southeast expansion of the Slight risk over north central TX into
    central OK. Model agreement is pretty good on the large scale, but
    as is typically the case, smaller scale convective processes will
    likely drive where the heaviest rainfall axis ends up. This is
    less predictable and warrants a slightly larger Slight risk area.
    If there is a model error with convective QPF placement, more
    often than not the heavier QPF is south and east of the forecast.
    This is why we were a bit more generous on the east and southeast
    side with the Slight area...with the 12z HREF guidance also
    supporting the southward expansion.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    and be accompanied with very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing as it
    moves across Texas and Oklahoma by Sunday evening into the
    overnight hours. This should be enough to overcome the limited
    forecast instability and result in deep convection and heavy
    rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and the
    adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw a minor expansion to reflect the latest trends
    and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to western
    Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    20z Update: Only minor changes to the inherited Marginal risk
    areas. We tightened up the Plains Marginal to try to keep it
    focused along/ahead of the low track where weak instability may
    briefly enhance rainfall rates. There is some chance we'll need a
    Slight risk over portions of OK into south central KS, as a flash
    flood threat may be ongoing at 12z Monday (a continuation of the
    day 1 Slight risk). However for now will maintain the Marginal and
    allow for a look at the overnight HREF guidance.

    There is also a chance we'll need a Slight risk over portions of
    the central Gulf Coast for Monday night. Convection should develop
    and grow upscale during this time, although the stronger model
    signal is after 12z Tuesday (and we do have a day 4 Slight risk
    covering that threat). Certainly plenty of moisture moving in with
    a deep connection to tropical moisture from the remnants of
    Sara...just a question with regards to how quickly we see a more
    robust uptick in forcing and convective organization. This is more
    likely by Tuesday (day 4), thus will keep this day 3 risk at
    Marginal for now and continue to monitor.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained with minor adjustments for this
    issuance.

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi.

    Campbell


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iwhldFj_xDAR7ld2KuWKSs2axacavXaMzyqFZrwffu2= m6y2kvXsON55yVwglhIs1STJPkYEqHG4EC-F8rm3JwrP0z8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iwhldFj_xDAR7ld2KuWKSs2axacavXaMzyqFZrwffu2= m6y2kvXsON55yVwglhIs1STJPkYEqHG4EC-F8rm3wsfz2bI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7iwhldFj_xDAR7ld2KuWKSs2axacavXaMzyqFZrwffu2= m6y2kvXsON55yVwglhIs1STJPkYEqHG4EC-F8rm34hiTJYg$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 170929
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 AM EST Sun Nov 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    today with very impressive IVT and accompanying anomalous PWs and=20
    forcing as it moves across Texas and Oklahoma by this evening into
    the overnight hours. This looks to be enough to overcome the=20
    limited forecast instability and result in deep convection and=20
    heavy rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and=20
    the adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain (per latest HREF and WPC QPF), but would expect=20
    isolated swaths as high as 4-6" within this setup (indicated by
    some of the heaviest CAMs). The overall progressive nature of the=20
    system and limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals, but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture=20
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal=20
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,=20
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw only minor adjustments to reflect the latest=20
    trends and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to=20
    western Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained once again with only minor=20
    adjustments for this issuance (not enough confidence for 2"+ totals
    to introduce a Slight Risk).=20

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi (changed very little from inherited with 3" localized
    totals possible).=20

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast and Southeast...

    By Tuesday significantly more tropical moisture will likely advect
    northward through the Gulf of Mexico in association with the
    remnants of Tropical Storm Sara; which will increase the potential
    for heavy rain and localized flooding concerns along portions of=20
    the Gulf Coast. An inherited Slight Risk area was maintained for
    southern AL and surrounding portions of FL/GA/MS/LA, given the
    potential for localized 3-5" totals (per ensemble guidance and WPC
    QPF).

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon, and northwest California...

    Another weak/moderate atmospheric river is expected for region for
    Day 3. Total rain of 2-4" (similar to Day 1) are expected with=20=20
    hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" once again suggest=20
    that some minor flooding issues could arise along coastal=20
    areas/mountains. An inherited Marginal Risk area remains in effect=20
    along the coastline.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5xVLAJdPoq5hCPp_60MXp-4oA6G1fvItQ6G8e7siqgNj= mQkS4pRfX3U_2eBsb2Dh5zwdgdkpBUpXcBXOhPX6X_hpAhg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5xVLAJdPoq5hCPp_60MXp-4oA6G1fvItQ6G8e7siqgNj= mQkS4pRfX3U_2eBsb2Dh5zwdgdkpBUpXcBXOhPX6IhFdSqM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5xVLAJdPoq5hCPp_60MXp-4oA6G1fvItQ6G8e7siqgNj= mQkS4pRfX3U_2eBsb2Dh5zwdgdkpBUpXcBXOhPX6G_bEf2E$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 171556
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1056 AM EST Sun Nov 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    1600Z Update...

    The 12Z HREF guidance along with 06Z RRFS/REFS output continues to
    support a locally heavy rainfall event across areas of the southern
    Plains by this evening and extending into the overnight period. There
    has been some shift farther west with some of the swaths of heavy=20
    rainfall potential across west TX as some of the individual CAMs
    are supporting the heavier rainfall/convection along the immediate
    cold front and in close proximity to the deepening surface low=20
    that will be evolving across the TX High Plains tonight. However, a complication to the rainfall forecast is the downstream evolution=20
    of convection along the front ahead of the surface low involving=20
    areas of northwest TX through southwest to central OK. This is=20
    where strong moisture convergence and forcing may foster a threat=20
    for some training areas of convection that become aligned in a=20
    southwest to northeast fashion. Overall, still expecting some=20
    swaths of 2 to 4 inch rainfall totals, with isolated potential for=20
    heavier amounts and especially across northwest TX into southwest=20
    OK where the better convective training threat will exist. Given=20
    the latest CAM guidance, the Slight Risk area has been expanded
    somewhat to account for the varying modes of convective evolution=20
    that are expected this evening and overnight.

    Elsewhere, no changes have been made to the previous D1 outlook
    including the Marginal Risk area across western OR where there
    continues to be some lingering, but modest atmospheric river
    activity.

    Orrison

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    today with very impressive IVT and accompanying anomalous PWs and
    forcing as it moves across Texas and Oklahoma by this evening into
    the overnight hours. This looks to be enough to overcome the
    limited forecast instability and result in deep convection and
    heavy rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and
    the adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain (per latest HREF and WPC QPF), but would expect
    isolated swaths as high as 4-6" within this setup (indicated by
    some of the heaviest CAMs). The overall progressive nature of the
    system and limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals, but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw only minor adjustments to reflect the latest
    trends and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to
    western Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained once again with only minor
    adjustments for this issuance (not enough confidence for 2"+ totals
    to introduce a Slight Risk).

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi (changed very little from inherited with 3" localized
    totals possible).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast and Southeast...

    By Tuesday significantly more tropical moisture will likely advect
    northward through the Gulf of Mexico in association with the
    remnants of Tropical Storm Sara; which will increase the potential
    for heavy rain and localized flooding concerns along portions of
    the Gulf Coast. An inherited Slight Risk area was maintained for
    southern AL and surrounding portions of FL/GA/MS/LA, given the
    potential for localized 3-5" totals (per ensemble guidance and WPC
    QPF).

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon, and northwest California...

    Another weak/moderate atmospheric river is expected for region for
    Day 3. Total rain of 2-4" (similar to Day 1) are expected with
    hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" once again suggest
    that some minor flooding issues could arise along coastal
    areas/mountains. An inherited Marginal Risk area remains in effect
    along the coastline.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fg0IcSyxWvkmsp1RVgi0rLBNJ3g2p4taCg-0KrkIFAG= XmuOBYV-wmRR2CwsblsNsr26_cstpjE4SRhRFf1Wjl_WvV4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fg0IcSyxWvkmsp1RVgi0rLBNJ3g2p4taCg-0KrkIFAG= XmuOBYV-wmRR2CwsblsNsr26_cstpjE4SRhRFf1W8JzOc0k$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-fg0IcSyxWvkmsp1RVgi0rLBNJ3g2p4taCg-0KrkIFAG= XmuOBYV-wmRR2CwsblsNsr26_cstpjE4SRhRFf1WA2YlxYM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun Nov 17 19:37:20 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 171937
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    237 PM EST Sun Nov 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    1600Z Update...

    The 12Z HREF guidance along with 06Z RRFS/REFS output continues to
    support a locally heavy rainfall event across areas of the southern
    Plains by this evening and extending into the overnight period. There
    has been some shift farther west with some of the swaths of heavy
    rainfall potential across west TX as some of the individual CAMs
    are supporting the heavier rainfall/convection along the immediate
    cold front and in close proximity to the deepening surface low
    that will be evolving across the TX High Plains tonight. However, a complication to the rainfall forecast is the downstream evolution
    of convection along the front ahead of the surface low involving
    areas of northwest TX through southwest to central OK. This is
    where strong moisture convergence and forcing may foster a threat
    for some training areas of convection that become aligned in a
    southwest to northeast fashion. Overall, still expecting some
    swaths of 2 to 4 inch rainfall totals, with isolated potential for
    heavier amounts and especially across northwest TX into southwest
    OK where the better convective training threat will exist. Given
    the latest CAM guidance, the Slight Risk area has been expanded
    somewhat to account for the varying modes of convective evolution
    that are expected this evening and overnight.

    Elsewhere, no changes have been made to the previous D1 outlook
    including the Marginal Risk area across western OR where there
    continues to be some lingering, but modest atmospheric river
    activity.

    Orrison

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    today with very impressive IVT and accompanying anomalous PWs and
    forcing as it moves across Texas and Oklahoma by this evening into
    the overnight hours. This looks to be enough to overcome the
    limited forecast instability and result in deep convection and
    heavy rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and
    the adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain (per latest HREF and WPC QPF), but would expect
    isolated swaths as high as 4-6" within this setup (indicated by
    some of the heaviest CAMs). The overall progressive nature of the
    system and limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals, but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw only minor adjustments to reflect the latest
    trends and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to
    western Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    20z Update: A Slight risk was added across portions of southeast
    Louisiana into coastal Mississippi including New Orleans and=20
    Biloxi. The higher QPF with this event is still forecast to fall on
    day 3 over areas further east. However, while heavy QPF coverage=20
    may not be as high on day 2, the ingredients will still be there=20
    for intense rainfall rates over southeast LA. The 12z HREF is not=20
    overly aggressive, but given the setup and ingredients would not be
    surprised to see an upward trend with the 00z guidance. Overall,=20
    the environment in place is conducive for a conditional flash flood
    threat over urban locations within the Slight risk. A slower=20
    evolution (as indicated by the ECMWF and AIFS) would bring Baton=20
    Rouge more into play, but will let the Marginal risk cover that for
    now and keep the Slight focused over the corridor from New Orleans
    to Biloxi where the probability of some training convection is
    higher Monday night.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained once again with only minor
    adjustments for this issuance (not enough confidence for 2"+ totals
    to introduce a Slight Risk).

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi (changed very little from inherited with 3" localized
    totals possible).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    20z Update: Only minor changes to the inherited risk areas, as the
    forecast generally looks on track. Expecting a backbuilding=20
    convective complex to push eastward across the central Gulf Coast=20
    Tuesday. Anticipate rainfall rates with this complex will be=20
    intense enough to overcome the high FFG on an isolated to scattered
    basis. 3 to 5" totals remain most likely, although localized=20
    swaths exceeding that are probable. The progressive nature of the=20
    system will put a cap on the upper bound of rainfall=20
    magnitudes...although still think locally significant flooding is a
    possibility given the intense rates and potential for backbuilding
    into the strong southerly low level inflow.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast and Southeast...

    By Tuesday significantly more tropical moisture will likely advect
    northward through the Gulf of Mexico in association with the
    remnants of Tropical Storm Sara; which will increase the potential
    for heavy rain and localized flooding concerns along portions of
    the Gulf Coast. An inherited Slight Risk area was maintained for
    southern AL and surrounding portions of FL/GA/MS/LA, given the
    potential for localized 3-5" totals (per ensemble guidance and WPC
    QPF).

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon, and northwest California...

    Another weak/moderate atmospheric river is expected for region for
    Day 3. Total rain of 2-4" (similar to Day 1) are expected with
    hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" once again suggest
    that some minor flooding issues could arise along coastal
    areas/mountains. An inherited Marginal Risk area remains in effect
    along the coastline.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5O-DO2dOxLckVMvkwFsmgNTHTy7eBGuxpxxuevCQfcBw= 5myiNJ-hneHl08sn4LQYANgg9I2uGcxtJ7DrbpJTYmDMswE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5O-DO2dOxLckVMvkwFsmgNTHTy7eBGuxpxxuevCQfcBw= 5myiNJ-hneHl08sn4LQYANgg9I2uGcxtJ7DrbpJT42E0bZg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5O-DO2dOxLckVMvkwFsmgNTHTy7eBGuxpxxuevCQfcBw= 5myiNJ-hneHl08sn4LQYANgg9I2uGcxtJ7DrbpJTXK2gSIs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 18 00:05:29 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 180005
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    705 PM EST Sun Nov 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    0100Z Update..
    Maintained the high-end Slight risk area in place with few minor
    modifications as the 18Z HREF and 12Z RRFS/REFS continues to
    support a locally heavy rainfall event overnight. Rainfall rates
    so far have been modest although some enhanced rates were starting
    to appear on radar as of late afternoon. Signals still point to=20
    increasing rates becoming more widespread during the mid- to late-
    evening hours as instability increases in proximity to a deepening
    surface low and associated cold front across the Texas High=20
    Plains. In addition to the increasing instability with time...the=20
    potential for training of cells/repeat convection will also be=20
    increasing. That sets the stage for swaths of 2 to 4 inch rainfall=20
    amounts with the associated risk of flash flooding tonight and into
    the early morning hours on Monday.

    Bann

    1600Z Update...

    The 12Z HREF guidance along with 06Z RRFS/REFS output continues to
    support a locally heavy rainfall event across areas of the southern
    Plains by this evening and extending into the overnight period. There
    has been some shift farther west with some of the swaths of heavy
    rainfall potential across west TX as some of the individual CAMs
    are supporting the heavier rainfall/convection along the immediate
    cold front and in close proximity to the deepening surface low
    that will be evolving across the TX High Plains tonight. However, a complication to the rainfall forecast is the downstream evolution
    of convection along the front ahead of the surface low involving
    areas of northwest TX through southwest to central OK. This is
    where strong moisture convergence and forcing may foster a threat
    for some training areas of convection that become aligned in a
    southwest to northeast fashion. Overall, still expecting some
    swaths of 2 to 4 inch rainfall totals, with isolated potential for
    heavier amounts and especially across northwest TX into southwest
    OK where the better convective training threat will exist. Given
    the latest CAM guidance, the Slight Risk area has been expanded
    somewhat to account for the varying modes of convective evolution
    that are expected this evening and overnight.

    Elsewhere, no changes have been made to the previous D1 outlook
    including the Marginal Risk area across western OR where there
    continues to be some lingering, but modest atmospheric river
    activity.

    Orrison

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    today with very impressive IVT and accompanying anomalous PWs and
    forcing as it moves across Texas and Oklahoma by this evening into
    the overnight hours. This looks to be enough to overcome the
    limited forecast instability and result in deep convection and
    heavy rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and
    the adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain (per latest HREF and WPC QPF), but would expect
    isolated swaths as high as 4-6" within this setup (indicated by
    some of the heaviest CAMs). The overall progressive nature of the
    system and limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals, but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw only minor adjustments to reflect the latest
    trends and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to
    western Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    20z Update: A Slight risk was added across portions of southeast
    Louisiana into coastal Mississippi including New Orleans and
    Biloxi. The higher QPF with this event is still forecast to fall on
    day 3 over areas further east. However, while heavy QPF coverage
    may not be as high on day 2, the ingredients will still be there
    for intense rainfall rates over southeast LA. The 12z HREF is not
    overly aggressive, but given the setup and ingredients would not be
    surprised to see an upward trend with the 00z guidance. Overall,
    the environment in place is conducive for a conditional flash flood
    threat over urban locations within the Slight risk. A slower
    evolution (as indicated by the ECMWF and AIFS) would bring Baton
    Rouge more into play, but will let the Marginal risk cover that for
    now and keep the Slight focused over the corridor from New Orleans
    to Biloxi where the probability of some training convection is
    higher Monday night.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained once again with only minor
    adjustments for this issuance (not enough confidence for 2"+ totals
    to introduce a Slight Risk).

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi (changed very little from inherited with 3" localized
    totals possible).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    20z Update: Only minor changes to the inherited risk areas, as the
    forecast generally looks on track. Expecting a backbuilding
    convective complex to push eastward across the central Gulf Coast
    Tuesday. Anticipate rainfall rates with this complex will be
    intense enough to overcome the high FFG on an isolated to scattered
    basis. 3 to 5" totals remain most likely, although localized
    swaths exceeding that are probable. The progressive nature of the
    system will put a cap on the upper bound of rainfall
    magnitudes...although still think locally significant flooding is a
    possibility given the intense rates and potential for backbuilding
    into the strong southerly low level inflow.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast and Southeast...

    By Tuesday significantly more tropical moisture will likely advect
    northward through the Gulf of Mexico in association with the
    remnants of Tropical Storm Sara; which will increase the potential
    for heavy rain and localized flooding concerns along portions of
    the Gulf Coast. An inherited Slight Risk area was maintained for
    southern AL and surrounding portions of FL/GA/MS/LA, given the
    potential for localized 3-5" totals (per ensemble guidance and WPC
    QPF).

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon, and northwest California...

    Another weak/moderate atmospheric river is expected for region for
    Day 3. Total rain of 2-4" (similar to Day 1) are expected with
    hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" once again suggest
    that some minor flooding issues could arise along coastal
    areas/mountains. An inherited Marginal Risk area remains in effect
    along the coastline.

    Churchill


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62lEdMHwnE96Cm0kU3YiHu58H0Gs-gcTa0klBnEw4whu= TXPS_wTumNa_ZZiuapx5kI_erPbzLh3AiOOtX2DRm5CY47o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62lEdMHwnE96Cm0kU3YiHu58H0Gs-gcTa0klBnEw4whu= TXPS_wTumNa_ZZiuapx5kI_erPbzLh3AiOOtX2DR9EXZrLs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!62lEdMHwnE96Cm0kU3YiHu58H0Gs-gcTa0klBnEw4whu= TXPS_wTumNa_ZZiuapx5kI_erPbzLh3AiOOtX2DRe6On2qg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon Nov 18 07:56:35 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 180756
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    256 AM EST Mon Nov 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI...


    An axis of much above average tropical PW values expected to be
    drawn rapidly northeastward from the remnants of Sara, across the
    central Gulf of Mexico and into the Central Gulf coast ahead of=20
    the negatively tilted closed low ejecting northeastward from the=20
    Southern Plains into the Upper Mississippi Valley day 1. These=20
    anomalous tropical PW values, 3 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean will enhance convection along and ahead of the cold front=20
    pushing eastward across the Gulf coast, primarily during the second
    half of day 1 from southeast Louisiana into southern Mississippi.=20
    A slight risk area was maintained where the latest HREF=20
    neighborhood probabilities are highest for 2 and 3"+ amounts. The=20
    simulated hi res radars are in good agreement in showing potential=20
    for a period of training of cells in this anomalous PW axis in the=20
    0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time period across the slight risk area of=20
    southeast LA into southern MS. In areas of training, hourly=20
    rainfall amounts of 1-2"+ possible, resulting in flash flooding,=20
    especially in the urbanized areas of New Orleans.=20

    Across the Southern to Central Plains toward the Upper MS Valley...there
    is fairly good agreement on an axis of heavy rain from northern=20
    OK, across much of KS, eastern NE, northwest MO, southeast SD, much
    of IA, southern MN into southwest WI in a region of strong
    isentropic lift ahead of the deepening surface low moving quickly
    northeastward across these areas. While widespread heavy amounts
    are likely, hourly rates will are mostly depicted as .25-50"+ in
    the latest hi res guidance. This should keep the threat of any
    runoff issues at marginal. The previous marginal risk area was
    trimmed on the eastern end, taking out much of IA, MO and eastern
    OK. The current marginal risk coincides well with the axis of the
    highest HREF 2"+ day 1 probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA, ACROSS FAR SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI, FAR SOUTHERN ALABAMA
    INTO THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE...

    The convection that is expected to enhance along the Central Gulf=20
    coast late day 1, will continue into day 2 as the surface front=20
    continues to push east along the Gulf Coast. The tropical PW=20
    values entrained ahead of this front day 1, will continue to push=20
    across central to eastern Gulf coast day 2. Training of cells in a=20
    southwest to northeasterly direction likely to continue Tuesday=20
    morning from southeast LA into far southern MS, far southern AL and
    the western FL Panhandle. There is some timing differences as to=20
    whether heavy rains will continue in the vicinity of New Orleans=20
    early Tuesday, or have pressed just to the east. The New Orleans=20
    metro area was kept in the slight risk given potential for an=20
    overlap of day 1 and day 2 heavy rain areas. The latest HREF 12=20
    hour neighborhood probabilities ending 00Z Wed show the highest=20 probabilities for 2 and 3"+ amounts remaining across far southeast=20
    LA, far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL Panhandle.=20
    This was the region depicted in a slight risk for day 2, with the=20
    previous risk area trimmed on the northern end across south central
    AL after collaboration with WFO MOB. The slight risk area=20
    corresponds with the hi res consensus for the greatest hourly=20
    totals of 1-2"+ in regions of training.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Models are in good agreement with the rapid cyclogenesis event
    across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific Northwest coast. The
    low level southerly flow along and ahead of the associated cold
    front will become very anomalous Tuesday night into early
    Wednesday, with 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard
    deviations above the mean impacting the Pac NW/far northwest CA
    coast. A well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland
    across coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC. Hourly
    rainfall rates in the .25-50"+ range possible, especially across
    southwest Oregon into far northwest CA where the strong southerly
    low level flow will have a better upslope component. For areas of
    northwest California into far southwest Oregon, this will be the
    beginning of a multi day Atmospheric River event. No changes made=20
    to the marginal risk area from the previous issuance.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FAR=20
    Southwest OREGON INTO NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 2 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 3. The
    rapidly deepening day 2 low over the northeast Pacific will anchor
    a nearly stationary upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 3. Strong
    persistent deep layered west southwest flow on the south side of
    this vortex will impact northwest California into far southwest
    Oregon day 3. with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2-4 standard deviations above the mean.
    There is fairly good model agreement with heavy precip totals of=20
    3-5" primarily over northwest California, with isolated totals of=20
    6-8" possible. No significant changes made to the previous slight=20
    risk area.=20

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-XNsork0DIbYZs58iHXBzM6Kc8o17U_0ThO5EseLEln= GqRIptFvHW5kkZ0bdmE8CnmCA_5vBJJRIkYWilcGRVHmP74$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-XNsork0DIbYZs58iHXBzM6Kc8o17U_0ThO5EseLEln= GqRIptFvHW5kkZ0bdmE8CnmCA_5vBJJRIkYWilcGllv5EA8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-XNsork0DIbYZs58iHXBzM6Kc8o17U_0ThO5EseLEln= GqRIptFvHW5kkZ0bdmE8CnmCA_5vBJJRIkYWilcGGr_GqQo$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 181542
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1042 AM EST Mon Nov 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    16Z Update...

    Only changes of note for this update were to trim back the Marginal
    Risk area across the central Plains to account for where the
    rainfall has ended or is about to come to an end. Elsewhere, only
    minor adjustments were made to the Marginal and Slight Risk areas
    near the central Gulf Coast where the latest hires model guidance
    continues to support a heavy and locally excessive rainfall threat.

    Orrison


    Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An axis of much above average tropical PW values expected to be
    drawn rapidly northeastward from the remnants of Sara, across the=20
    central Gulf of Mexico and into the Central Gulf coast ahead of the
    negatively tilted closed low ejecting northeastward from the=20
    Southern Plains into the Upper Mississippi Valley day 1. These=20
    anomalous tropical PW values, 3 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean will enhance convection along and ahead of the cold front=20
    pushing eastward across the Gulf coast, primarily during the second
    half of day 1 from southeast Louisiana into southern Mississippi.=20
    A slight risk area was maintained where the latest HREF=20
    neighborhood probabilities are highest for 2 and 3"+ amounts. The=20
    simulated hi res radars are in good agreement in showing potential=20
    for a period of training of cells in this anomalous PW axis in the=20
    0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time period across the slight risk area of=20
    southeast LA into southern MS. In areas of training, hourly=20
    rainfall amounts of 1-2"+ possible, resulting in flash flooding,=20
    especially in the urbanized areas of New Orleans.

    ...Central Plains...

    Across the Southern to Central Plains toward the Upper MS Valley...there
    is fairly good agreement on an axis of heavy rain from northern
    OK, across much of KS, eastern NE, northwest MO, southeast SD, much
    of IA, southern MN into southwest WI in a region of strong
    isentropic lift ahead of the deepening surface low moving quickly
    northeastward across these areas. While widespread heavy amounts
    are likely, hourly rates will are mostly depicted as .25-50"+ in
    the latest hi res guidance. This should keep the threat of any
    runoff issues at marginal. The previous marginal risk area was
    trimmed on the eastern end, taking out much of IA, MO and eastern
    OK. The current marginal risk coincides well with the axis of the
    highest HREF 2"+ day 1 probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA, ACROSS FAR SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI, FAR SOUTHERN ALABAMA
    INTO THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE...

    The convection that is expected to enhance along the Central Gulf
    coast late day 1, will continue into day 2 as the surface front
    continues to push east along the Gulf Coast. The tropical PW
    values entrained ahead of this front day 1, will continue to push
    across central to eastern Gulf coast day 2. Training of cells in a
    southwest to northeasterly direction likely to continue Tuesday
    morning from southeast LA into far southern MS, far southern AL and
    the western FL Panhandle. There is some timing differences as to
    whether heavy rains will continue in the vicinity of New Orleans
    early Tuesday, or have pressed just to the east. The New Orleans
    metro area was kept in the slight risk given potential for an
    overlap of day 1 and day 2 heavy rain areas. The latest HREF 12
    hour neighborhood probabilities ending 00Z Wed show the highest
    probabilities for 2 and 3"+ amounts remaining across far southeast
    LA, far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL Panhandle.
    This was the region depicted in a slight risk for day 2, with the
    previous risk area trimmed on the northern end across south central
    AL after collaboration with WFO MOB. The slight risk area
    corresponds with the hi res consensus for the greatest hourly
    totals of 1-2"+ in regions of training.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Models are in good agreement with the rapid cyclogenesis event
    across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific Northwest coast. The
    low level southerly flow along and ahead of the associated cold
    front will become very anomalous Tuesday night into early
    Wednesday, with 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard
    deviations above the mean impacting the Pac NW/far northwest CA
    coast. A well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland
    across coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC. Hourly
    rainfall rates in the .25-50"+ range possible, especially across
    southwest Oregon into far northwest CA where the strong southerly
    low level flow will have a better upslope component. For areas of
    northwest California into far southwest Oregon, this will be the
    beginning of a multi day Atmospheric River event. No changes made
    to the marginal risk area from the previous issuance.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FAR
    Southwest OREGON INTO NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 2 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 3. The
    rapidly deepening day 2 low over the northeast Pacific will anchor
    a nearly stationary upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 3. Strong
    persistent deep layered west southwest flow on the south side of
    this vortex will impact northwest California into far southwest
    Oregon day 3. with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2-4 standard deviations above the mean.
    There is fairly good model agreement with heavy precip totals of
    3-5" primarily over northwest California, with isolated totals of
    6-8" possible. No significant changes made to the previous slight
    risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4ABMDAC1NqfhtpEwAEoKsX1LnYmCIkCBifjaNBQMRn8V= 80dJWCP9h3Oh5MdNLAwe1IE5c-hukHtNSbnUETFb_jOwVgU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4ABMDAC1NqfhtpEwAEoKsX1LnYmCIkCBifjaNBQMRn8V= 80dJWCP9h3Oh5MdNLAwe1IE5c-hukHtNSbnUETFbIDGbfMQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4ABMDAC1NqfhtpEwAEoKsX1LnYmCIkCBifjaNBQMRn8V= 80dJWCP9h3Oh5MdNLAwe1IE5c-hukHtNSbnUETFbykEGcT8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 182006
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    306 PM EST Mon Nov 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    16Z Update...

    Only changes of note for this update were to trim back the Marginal
    Risk area across the central Plains to account for where the
    rainfall has ended or is about to come to an end. Elsewhere, only
    minor adjustments were made to the Marginal and Slight Risk areas
    near the central Gulf Coast where the latest hires model guidance
    continues to support a heavy and locally excessive rainfall threat.

    Orrison


    Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An axis of much above average tropical PW values expected to be
    drawn rapidly northeastward from the remnants of Sara, across the
    central Gulf of Mexico and into the Central Gulf coast ahead of the
    negatively tilted closed low ejecting northeastward from the
    Southern Plains into the Upper Mississippi Valley day 1. These
    anomalous tropical PW values, 3 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean will enhance convection along and ahead of the cold front
    pushing eastward across the Gulf coast, primarily during the second
    half of day 1 from southeast Louisiana into southern Mississippi.
    A slight risk area was maintained where the latest HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are highest for 2 and 3"+ amounts. The
    simulated hi res radars are in good agreement in showing potential
    for a period of training of cells in this anomalous PW axis in the
    0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time period across the slight risk area of
    southeast LA into southern MS. In areas of training, hourly
    rainfall amounts of 1-2"+ possible, resulting in flash flooding,
    especially in the urbanized areas of New Orleans.

    ...Central Plains...

    Across the Southern to Central Plains toward the Upper MS Valley...there
    is fairly good agreement on an axis of heavy rain from northern
    OK, across much of KS, eastern NE, northwest MO, southeast SD, much
    of IA, southern MN into southwest WI in a region of strong
    isentropic lift ahead of the deepening surface low moving quickly
    northeastward across these areas. While widespread heavy amounts
    are likely, hourly rates will are mostly depicted as .25-50"+ in
    the latest hi res guidance. This should keep the threat of any
    runoff issues at marginal. The previous marginal risk area was
    trimmed on the eastern end, taking out much of IA, MO and eastern
    OK. The current marginal risk coincides well with the axis of the
    highest HREF 2"+ day 1 probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    20z Update: A Slight risk was added to coastal northwest CA into
    southwest OR. An Atmospheric River will begin impacting this area
    Tuesday night, and we should see the potential for some intense
    rainfall rates as the cold front moves ashore. Several 12z HREF
    members indicate a well defined narrow band of low topped=20
    convection along this front that will be capable of producing=20
    heavy rainfall rates along coastal areas. Both the HREF and REFS=20
    show a high probability of 0.5" per hour rainfall as the front=20
    moves inland. The convective intensity should weaken as it moves=20
    inland, however some of that will be offset by orographic=20
    enhancement...so while 1" per hour probabilities drop off over=20
    land compared to over water, there are still some low end=20
    probabilities. Rainfall through 12z Wed will generally be in the=20
    2-5" range over the Slight risk, which combined with the high rate
    potential suggests a Slight risk upgrade is warranted as some=20
    flooding concerns could arise Tuesday night.

    Only minor changes made to the Slight risk over the central Gulf=20
    Coast as that looks on track.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The convection that is expected to enhance along the Central Gulf
    coast late day 1, will continue into day 2 as the surface front
    continues to push east along the Gulf Coast. The tropical PW
    values entrained ahead of this front day 1, will continue to push
    across central to eastern Gulf coast day 2. Training of cells in a
    southwest to northeasterly direction likely to continue Tuesday
    morning from southeast LA into far southern MS, far southern AL and
    the western FL Panhandle. There is some timing differences as to
    whether heavy rains will continue in the vicinity of New Orleans
    early Tuesday, or have pressed just to the east. The New Orleans
    metro area was kept in the slight risk given potential for an
    overlap of day 1 and day 2 heavy rain areas. The latest HREF 12
    hour neighborhood probabilities ending 00Z Wed show the highest
    probabilities for 2 and 3"+ amounts remaining across far southeast
    LA, far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL Panhandle.
    This was the region depicted in a slight risk for day 2, with the
    previous risk area trimmed on the northern end across south central
    AL after collaboration with WFO MOB. The slight risk area
    corresponds with the hi res consensus for the greatest hourly
    totals of 1-2"+ in regions of training.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Models are in good agreement with the rapid cyclogenesis event
    across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific Northwest coast. The
    low level southerly flow along and ahead of the associated cold
    front will become very anomalous Tuesday night into early
    Wednesday, with 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard
    deviations above the mean impacting the Pac NW/far northwest CA
    coast. A well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland
    across coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC. Hourly
    rainfall rates in the .25-50"+ range possible, especially across
    southwest Oregon into far northwest CA where the strong southerly
    low level flow will have a better upslope component. For areas of
    northwest California into far southwest Oregon, this will be the
    beginning of a multi day Atmospheric River event. No changes made
    to the marginal risk area from the previous issuance.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    20z Update: Upgraded portions of northwest CA to a MDT risk with
    this update. This is generally for the same area that was already
    under a day 4 MDT risk. The stalled Atmospheric River will result
    in prolonged moderate to at times heavy rainfall across the area
    Wednesday into Wednesday night. Most of the MDT risk area will see
    4-8" of rain from the event through 12z Thursday, with some of the
    more orographically favored peaks around 10". While not persistent
    through the entire period, rainfall rates will likely periodically
    exceed 0.5" in an hour. The flooding threat will increase through=20
    the period as conditions become saturated and stream/river levels=20
    rise. Locally significant impacts will be possible, with the event
    continuing into day 4 (Thursday and Thursday night) as well.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 2 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 3. The
    rapidly deepening day 2 low over the northeast Pacific will anchor
    a nearly stationary upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 3. Strong
    persistent deep layered west southwest flow on the south side of
    this vortex will impact northwest California into far southwest
    Oregon day 3. with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2-4 standard deviations above the mean.
    There is fairly good model agreement with heavy precip totals of
    3-5" primarily over northwest California, with isolated totals of
    6-8" possible. No significant changes made to the previous slight
    risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!457bTluHyvd6iKvEa6pNaQJ1vu4h9sJdBxA8cudbUgVl= s7CWqu5ER8ABT0Yl5jgCD2n92euj85BFKee9yZxLwjRSipM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!457bTluHyvd6iKvEa6pNaQJ1vu4h9sJdBxA8cudbUgVl= s7CWqu5ER8ABT0Yl5jgCD2n92euj85BFKee9yZxLiXDmo7A$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!457bTluHyvd6iKvEa6pNaQJ1vu4h9sJdBxA8cudbUgVl= s7CWqu5ER8ABT0Yl5jgCD2n92euj85BFKee9yZxLz2H0ZBs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 19 00:09:43 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 190009
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    709 PM EST Mon Nov 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

    01Z Update...
    Only change in this update was the removal of the Marginal risk
    area across the central Plains now that the higher rainfall rates
    have ended or moved out of the area. The on-going Slight risk and
    Marginal risk areas across parts of Louisiana and Mississippi=20
    still looks to be on- track with convection approaching the western
    boundary of the Marginal risk area. The 18Z RRFS ensemble depicts=20
    heaviest rainfall amounts and rainfall rates in the 19/06Z to=20
    19/12Z period and supports the forecast of 2 to 4 inch amounts.=20
    Only minor adjustments were needed in terms of placement. A
    localized and mostly urban flash flood threat will exist with the
    bands of heaviest rainfall this evening. Reference Mesoscale=20
    Precipitation Discussion 1157 for additional details.=20

    Bann

    16Z Update...

    Only changes of note for this update were to trim back the Marginal
    Risk area across the central Plains to account for where the
    rainfall has ended or is about to come to an end. Elsewhere, only
    minor adjustments were made to the Marginal and Slight Risk areas
    near the central Gulf Coast where the latest hires model guidance
    continues to support a heavy and locally excessive rainfall threat.

    Orrison


    Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    An axis of much above average tropical PW values expected to be
    drawn rapidly northeastward from the remnants of Sara, across the
    central Gulf of Mexico and into the Central Gulf coast ahead of the
    negatively tilted closed low ejecting northeastward from the
    Southern Plains into the Upper Mississippi Valley day 1. These
    anomalous tropical PW values, 3 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean will enhance convection along and ahead of the cold front
    pushing eastward across the Gulf coast, primarily during the second
    half of day 1 from southeast Louisiana into southern Mississippi.
    A slight risk area was maintained where the latest HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are highest for 2 and 3"+ amounts. The
    simulated hi res radars are in good agreement in showing potential
    for a period of training of cells in this anomalous PW axis in the
    0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time period across the slight risk area of
    southeast LA into southern MS. In areas of training, hourly
    rainfall amounts of 1-2"+ possible, resulting in flash flooding,
    especially in the urbanized areas of New Orleans.

    ...Central Plains...

    Across the Southern to Central Plains toward the Upper MS Valley...there
    is fairly good agreement on an axis of heavy rain from northern
    OK, across much of KS, eastern NE, northwest MO, southeast SD, much
    of IA, southern MN into southwest WI in a region of strong
    isentropic lift ahead of the deepening surface low moving quickly
    northeastward across these areas. While widespread heavy amounts
    are likely, hourly rates will are mostly depicted as .25-50"+ in
    the latest hi res guidance. This should keep the threat of any
    runoff issues at marginal. The previous marginal risk area was
    trimmed on the eastern end, taking out much of IA, MO and eastern
    OK. The current marginal risk coincides well with the axis of the
    highest HREF 2"+ day 1 probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    20z Update: A Slight risk was added to coastal northwest CA into
    southwest OR. An Atmospheric River will begin impacting this area
    Tuesday night, and we should see the potential for some intense
    rainfall rates as the cold front moves ashore. Several 12z HREF
    members indicate a well defined narrow band of low topped
    convection along this front that will be capable of producing
    heavy rainfall rates along coastal areas. Both the HREF and REFS
    show a high probability of 0.5" per hour rainfall as the front
    moves inland. The convective intensity should weaken as it moves
    inland, however some of that will be offset by orographic
    enhancement...so while 1" per hour probabilities drop off over
    land compared to over water, there are still some low end
    probabilities. Rainfall through 12z Wed will generally be in the
    2-5" range over the Slight risk, which combined with the high rate
    potential suggests a Slight risk upgrade is warranted as some
    flooding concerns could arise Tuesday night.

    Only minor changes made to the Slight risk over the central Gulf
    Coast as that looks on track.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The convection that is expected to enhance along the Central Gulf
    coast late day 1, will continue into day 2 as the surface front
    continues to push east along the Gulf Coast. The tropical PW
    values entrained ahead of this front day 1, will continue to push
    across central to eastern Gulf coast day 2. Training of cells in a
    southwest to northeasterly direction likely to continue Tuesday
    morning from southeast LA into far southern MS, far southern AL and
    the western FL Panhandle. There is some timing differences as to
    whether heavy rains will continue in the vicinity of New Orleans
    early Tuesday, or have pressed just to the east. The New Orleans
    metro area was kept in the slight risk given potential for an
    overlap of day 1 and day 2 heavy rain areas. The latest HREF 12
    hour neighborhood probabilities ending 00Z Wed show the highest
    probabilities for 2 and 3"+ amounts remaining across far southeast
    LA, far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL Panhandle.
    This was the region depicted in a slight risk for day 2, with the
    previous risk area trimmed on the northern end across south central
    AL after collaboration with WFO MOB. The slight risk area
    corresponds with the hi res consensus for the greatest hourly
    totals of 1-2"+ in regions of training.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Models are in good agreement with the rapid cyclogenesis event
    across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific Northwest coast. The
    low level southerly flow along and ahead of the associated cold
    front will become very anomalous Tuesday night into early
    Wednesday, with 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard
    deviations above the mean impacting the Pac NW/far northwest CA
    coast. A well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland
    across coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC. Hourly
    rainfall rates in the .25-50"+ range possible, especially across
    southwest Oregon into far northwest CA where the strong southerly
    low level flow will have a better upslope component. For areas of
    northwest California into far southwest Oregon, this will be the
    beginning of a multi day Atmospheric River event. No changes made
    to the marginal risk area from the previous issuance.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    20z Update: Upgraded portions of northwest CA to a MDT risk with
    this update. This is generally for the same area that was already
    under a day 4 MDT risk. The stalled Atmospheric River will result
    in prolonged moderate to at times heavy rainfall across the area
    Wednesday into Wednesday night. Most of the MDT risk area will see
    4-8" of rain from the event through 12z Thursday, with some of the
    more orographically favored peaks around 10". While not persistent
    through the entire period, rainfall rates will likely periodically
    exceed 0.5" in an hour. The flooding threat will increase through
    the period as conditions become saturated and stream/river levels
    rise. Locally significant impacts will be possible, with the event
    continuing into day 4 (Thursday and Thursday night) as well.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 2 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 3. The
    rapidly deepening day 2 low over the northeast Pacific will anchor
    a nearly stationary upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 3. Strong
    persistent deep layered west southwest flow on the south side of
    this vortex will impact northwest California into far southwest
    Oregon day 3. with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2-4 standard deviations above the mean.
    There is fairly good model agreement with heavy precip totals of
    3-5" primarily over northwest California, with isolated totals of
    6-8" possible. No significant changes made to the previous slight
    risk area.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55QIgfswcgDtrFRCcvROnO_rAhmdutVGNER8pt1hecUO= anzEP3oYWrwkJ7HGd2HalZk7Ue8YBl6EYimmMN61S83k4Os$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55QIgfswcgDtrFRCcvROnO_rAhmdutVGNER8pt1hecUO= anzEP3oYWrwkJ7HGd2HalZk7Ue8YBl6EYimmMN61m8s4SWg$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55QIgfswcgDtrFRCcvROnO_rAhmdutVGNER8pt1hecUO= anzEP3oYWrwkJ7HGd2HalZk7Ue8YBl6EYimmMN61Ar4ZWdw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 19 08:29:17 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 190828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    328 AM EST Tue Nov 19 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Latest satellite imagery is showing enhancing convection to the=20
    south of southeast LA associated with the anomalous tropical=20
    moisture surge ahead of the cold front moving east across the=20
    Central Gulf Coast. Trends in the latest hi res guidance suggest=20
    this offshore enhancing convection will become the heaviest=20 frontal/pre-frontal rains as organized convection currently along=20
    the front farther to the north begin to weaken after 1200 UTC. Hi=20
    res guidance is in fairly good agreement that the heaviest rains=20
    with the offshore enhancing convection will remain just to the=20
    south of far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL=20
    Panhandle, but still affecting far southeast LA. HREF neighborhood=20 probabilities show that the axis of the highest probabilities for 2
    and 3"+ amounts will remain offshore with the northern edge of=20
    these higher probabilities affecting areas from far southeast LA=20
    and along the immediate far southern MS, far southern AL and=20
    western FL Panhandle. Changes to the previous outlook were to trim=20
    the northern extent of the slight risk area by approximately 20 nm
    and to trim the western extent of the slight risk by=20
    approximately 40nm to account for the hi res trends. At the=20
    moment, the consensus on timing of convection supports removing the
    New Orleans metro area from the slight risk, with the heaviest=20
    rains likely to the east and southeast prior to 1200 UTC Tuesday.=20

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Latest models continue to be in good agreement on the rapid=20
    cyclogenesis event across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific=20
    Northwest coast, signaling the beginning of a multi day Atmospheric
    River event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous low=20
    level southerly flow expected along and ahead of the associated=20
    cold front Tuesday night into early Wednesday, with 850-700 mb=20
    moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard deviations above the mean=20
    impacting the coastal Pac NW, south into far northwest CA coast. A
    well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland across=20
    coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC Wednesday. The=20
    strong southerly low level flow will be mostly parallel to the=20
    terrain along the Pac NW coast, limiting hourly rainfall rates to=20
    .10-.25"+. Greater hourly rates likely across far southwest Oregon=20
    into coastal NW CA where a more significant upslope component to=20
    the low level flow is likely. Hi res guidance is fairly similar in=20
    showing hourly rates of .25-.50"+ in the 0600 to 1200 UTC Wednesday
    period across far southwest OR into far NW CA. HREF .50"/hr=20
    probabilities subsequently are high across this area, with 1"/hr=20 probabilities much lower and primarily offshore. No changes made to
    the previous slight risk area, which corresponds well to the above
    mentioned axis of high .50"+/hr HREF neighborhood probabilities.=20

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...


    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 1 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 2,
    primarily across northwest California. The rapidly deepening low=20
    over the northeast Pacific day 1 will anchor a nearly stationary=20
    upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 2. Strong persistent deep=20
    layered west southwest flow on the south side of this vortex will=20
    impact northwest California day 2, with IVT values of 500-800=20
    km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+=20
    standard deviations above the mean. There is fairly good model=20
    agreement with heavy precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest
    California, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. The previous=20
    moderate risk area was adjusted slightly southward by approximately
    10-40 nm to account for model max axis consensus. Hourly rainfall=20
    amounts of .25-.50"+ likely through the day 2 time period across=20
    northwest CA with increasing flooding risks with time as soils=20
    become saturated and streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for .50"+ totals for the first half of day 2 when=20
    the data is available, remain high across northwest CA.=20


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 221 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The deep northeast Pacific Vortex remains nearly stationary day 3
    off the Pacific Northwest coast, supporting the continuation of the
    multi day Atmospheric River event for northwest CA into far
    southwest OR. Anomalous deep layered southwesterly flow will
    continue on the south side of this vortex. 850 to 700 mb moisture=20
    flux anomalies will continue to be 2 to 4+ standard deviations=20
    above the mean with IVT values also maintained in the 500 to 800 km/m-1
    s-2 range across northwest CA into far southwest OR. There is a=20
    likelihood of very heavy rains again falling day 3 over similar=20
    regions from the day 2 period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to=20
    continue at times supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts=20
    of 3 to 6 inches and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8"=20
    across northwest CA into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to
    16+ inches possible across portions of northwest California. Given
    this day 2-3 heavy rain overlap potential, a small high risk area=20
    was introduced over northwest CA, across the west central portions=20
    of the EKA's CWA. Flood risks will continue to increase day 3 along
    with rock and land slides as soils become saturated and streams=20
    and rivers continue to rise and overflow. There will be a=20
    northward shift back into far southwest Oregon day 3 for the heavy=20
    rain potential as the upper flow back and heights rise. The rising=20
    heights will also keep much of the day 3 precip as rain, increasing
    overall runoff.=20


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h5DkI82aJocLKvhBHJEpu_oO8Rmzm6eCiDdriOaHfGF= __FC2I5iXO6QxbRIQ78-bEhHxZWvZI1swe3twP-VRONgph8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h5DkI82aJocLKvhBHJEpu_oO8Rmzm6eCiDdriOaHfGF= __FC2I5iXO6QxbRIQ78-bEhHxZWvZI1swe3twP-VrQRvBoc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7h5DkI82aJocLKvhBHJEpu_oO8Rmzm6eCiDdriOaHfGF= __FC2I5iXO6QxbRIQ78-bEhHxZWvZI1swe3twP-V84MTJnE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 19 15:46:24 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 191546
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1046 AM EST Tue Nov 19 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    16z update:

    For the central Gulf coast, surface wave along the cold front is
    lifting east-northeast slowly under response of strengthening
    130kt jet across the central MS Valley and is expected to slow a
    bit. Progressive pre-frontal trough leaving eastern LA into the
    northern Gulf is likely to intersect best moisture flux and may
    limit northward expansion of unstable air north into S MS/S AL/W=20
    FL, but if it can, stronger, slower moving thunderstorms will
    retain ample risk of producing localized streets of 3-5" across the
    area potentially into SW GA to maintain risk areas with erosion of
    the western side of the risk areas as the front has passed in
    central LA.=20

    For the West Coast, rapid cyclogenesis is already occurring based
    on GOES-W satellite suite. Showers and perhaps an occasional
    sallow-topped thunderstorm will progress eastward into the WA/OR=20
    and N CA coast into this evening/overnight. Placement and risk=20
    categories remain solid that only cosmetic changes were made.=20

    Gallina

    ----Prior Discussion----
    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Latest satellite imagery is showing enhancing convection to the=20
    south of southeast LA associated with the anomalous tropical=20
    moisture surge ahead of the cold front moving east across the=20
    Central Gulf Coast. Trends in the latest hi res guidance suggest=20
    this offshore enhancing convection will become the heaviest=20 frontal/pre-frontal rains as organized convection currently along=20
    the front farther to the north begin to weaken after 1200 UTC. Hi=20
    res guidance is in fairly good agreement that the heaviest rains=20
    with the offshore enhancing convection will remain just to the=20
    south of far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL=20
    Panhandle, but still affecting far southeast LA. HREF neighborhood=20 probabilities show that the axis of the highest probabilities for 2
    and 3"+ amounts will remain offshore with the northern edge of=20
    these higher probabilities affecting areas from far southeast LA=20
    and along the immediate far southern MS, far southern AL and=20
    western FL Panhandle. Changes to the previous outlook were to trim=20
    the northern extent of the slight risk area by approximately 20 nm=20
    and to trim the western extent of the slight risk by approximately=20
    40nm to account for the hi res trends. At the moment, the consensus
    on timing of convection supports removing the New Orleans metro=20
    area from the slight risk, with the heaviest rains likely to the=20
    east and southeast prior to 1200 UTC Tuesday.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...
    Latest models continue to be in good agreement on the rapid=20
    cyclogenesis event across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific=20
    Northwest coast, signaling the beginning of a multi day Atmospheric
    River event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous low=20
    level southerly flow expected along and ahead of the associated=20
    cold front Tuesday night into early Wednesday, with 850-700 mb=20
    moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard deviations above the mean=20
    impacting the coastal Pac NW, south into far northwest CA coast. A=20
    well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland across=20
    coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC Wednesday. The=20
    strong southerly low level flow will be mostly parallel to the=20
    terrain along the Pac NW coast, limiting hourly rainfall rates to=20
    .10-.25"+. Greater hourly rates likely across far southwest Oregon=20
    into coastal NW CA where a more significant upslope component to=20
    the low level flow is likely. Hi res guidance is fairly similar in=20
    showing hourly rates of .25-.50"+ in the 0600 to 1200 UTC Wednesday
    period across far southwest OR into far NW CA. HREF .50"/hr=20
    probabilities subsequently are high across this area, with 1"/hr=20 probabilities much lower and primarily offshore. No changes made to
    the previous slight risk area, which corresponds well to the above
    mentioned axis of high .50"+/hr HREF neighborhood probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...


    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 1 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 2,
    primarily across northwest California. The rapidly deepening low
    over the northeast Pacific day 1 will anchor a nearly stationary
    upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 2. Strong persistent deep
    layered west southwest flow on the south side of this vortex will
    impact northwest California day 2, with IVT values of 500-800
    km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+
    standard deviations above the mean. There is fairly good model
    agreement with heavy precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest
    California, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. The previous
    moderate risk area was adjusted slightly southward by approximately
    10-40 nm to account for model max axis consensus. Hourly rainfall
    amounts of .25-.50"+ likely through the day 2 time period across
    northwest CA with increasing flooding risks with time as soils
    become saturated and streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for .50"+ totals for the first half of day 2 when
    the data is available, remain high across northwest CA.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The deep northeast Pacific Vortex remains nearly stationary day 3
    off the Pacific Northwest coast, supporting the continuation of the
    multi day Atmospheric River event for northwest CA into far
    southwest OR. Anomalous deep layered southwesterly flow will
    continue on the south side of this vortex. 850 to 700 mb moisture
    flux anomalies will continue to be 2 to 4+ standard deviations
    above the mean with IVT values also maintained in the 500 to 800 km/m-1
    s-2 range across northwest CA into far southwest OR. There is a
    likelihood of very heavy rains again falling day 3 over similar
    regions from the day 2 period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to
    continue at times supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts
    of 3 to 6 inches and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8"
    across northwest CA into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to
    16+ inches possible across portions of northwest California. Given
    this day 2-3 heavy rain overlap potential, a small high risk area
    was introduced over northwest CA, across the west central portions
    of the EKA's CWA. Flood risks will continue to increase day 3 along
    with rock and land slides as soils become saturated and streams
    and rivers continue to rise and overflow. There will be a
    northward shift back into far southwest Oregon day 3 for the heavy
    rain potential as the upper flow back and heights rise. The rising
    heights will also keep much of the day 3 precip as rain, increasing
    overall runoff.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7mXCBMmwIkyci95skAeilOyVl_noLA8fiyIEuqghdgw6= NoxYhviGuUCdFctNy_vQYfibUBXlcapf7gQ927BFP-9t6GU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7mXCBMmwIkyci95skAeilOyVl_noLA8fiyIEuqghdgw6= NoxYhviGuUCdFctNy_vQYfibUBXlcapf7gQ927BFiYJRTk0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7mXCBMmwIkyci95skAeilOyVl_noLA8fiyIEuqghdgw6= NoxYhviGuUCdFctNy_vQYfibUBXlcapf7gQ927BFT_CPHxM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Nov 19 19:51:22 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 191951
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    251 PM EST Tue Nov 19 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    16z update:

    For the central Gulf coast, surface wave along the cold front is
    lifting east-northeast slowly under response of strengthening
    130kt jet across the central MS Valley and is expected to slow a
    bit. Progressive pre-frontal trough leaving eastern LA into the
    northern Gulf is likely to intersect best moisture flux and may
    limit northward expansion of unstable air north into S MS/S AL/W
    FL, but if it can, stronger, slower moving thunderstorms will
    retain ample risk of producing localized streets of 3-5" across the
    area potentially into SW GA to maintain risk areas with erosion of
    the western side of the risk areas as the front has passed in
    central LA.

    For the West Coast, rapid cyclogenesis is already occurring based
    on GOES-W satellite suite. Showers and perhaps an occasional
    sallow-topped thunderstorm will progress eastward into the WA/OR
    and N CA coast into this evening/overnight. Placement and risk
    categories remain solid that only cosmetic changes were made.

    Gallina

    ----Prior Discussion----
    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Latest satellite imagery is showing enhancing convection to the
    south of southeast LA associated with the anomalous tropical
    moisture surge ahead of the cold front moving east across the
    Central Gulf Coast. Trends in the latest hi res guidance suggest
    this offshore enhancing convection will become the heaviest
    frontal/pre-frontal rains as organized convection currently along
    the front farther to the north begin to weaken after 1200 UTC. Hi
    res guidance is in fairly good agreement that the heaviest rains
    with the offshore enhancing convection will remain just to the
    south of far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL
    Panhandle, but still affecting far southeast LA. HREF neighborhood probabilities show that the axis of the highest probabilities for 2
    and 3"+ amounts will remain offshore with the northern edge of
    these higher probabilities affecting areas from far southeast LA
    and along the immediate far southern MS, far southern AL and
    western FL Panhandle. Changes to the previous outlook were to trim
    the northern extent of the slight risk area by approximately 20 nm
    and to trim the western extent of the slight risk by approximately
    40nm to account for the hi res trends. At the moment, the consensus
    on timing of convection supports removing the New Orleans metro
    area from the slight risk, with the heaviest rains likely to the
    east and southeast prior to 1200 UTC Tuesday.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...
    Latest models continue to be in good agreement on the rapid
    cyclogenesis event across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific
    Northwest coast, signaling the beginning of a multi day Atmospheric
    River event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous low
    level southerly flow expected along and ahead of the associated
    cold front Tuesday night into early Wednesday, with 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard deviations above the mean
    impacting the coastal Pac NW, south into far northwest CA coast. A
    well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland across
    coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC Wednesday. The
    strong southerly low level flow will be mostly parallel to the
    terrain along the Pac NW coast, limiting hourly rainfall rates to
    .10-.25"+. Greater hourly rates likely across far southwest Oregon
    into coastal NW CA where a more significant upslope component to
    the low level flow is likely. Hi res guidance is fairly similar in
    showing hourly rates of .25-.50"+ in the 0600 to 1200 UTC Wednesday
    period across far southwest OR into far NW CA. HREF .50"/hr
    probabilities subsequently are high across this area, with 1"/hr
    probabilities much lower and primarily offshore. No changes made to
    the previous slight risk area, which corresponds well to the above
    mentioned axis of high .50"+/hr HREF neighborhood probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...1930 UTC Update...
    Slight changes were made to the Day 2 ERO out in CA and far=20
    southwest OR -- mainly to trim the northern portion of the Moderate
    Risk, while also pulling the southern peripheries of the=20 Moderate/Slight/Marginal Risk areas slightly southward based on the
    latest guidance trends. The Moderate is now closer (though still=20
    north of) the Bay area, where the latest (12Z) HREF 24=20
    probabilities of >8" in 24hrs is now 60-80+ percent.

    Hurley

    ...Previous discussion...
    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 1 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 2,=20
    primarily across northwest California. The rapidly deepening low=20
    over the northeast Pacific day 1 will anchor a nearly stationary=20
    upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 2. Strong persistent deep=20
    layered west southwest flow on the south side of this vortex will=20
    impact northwest California day 2, with IVT values of 500-800=20
    km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard
    deviations above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement=20
    with heavy precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest=20
    California, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. The previous=20
    moderate risk area was adjusted slightly southward by approximately
    10-40 nm to account for model max axis consensus. Hourly rainfall=20
    amounts of .25-.50"+ likely through the day 2 time period across=20
    northwest CA with increasing flooding risks with time as soils=20
    become saturated and streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for .50"+ totals for the first half of day 2 when=20
    the data is available, remain high across northwest CA.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...1930 UTC Update...
    Not too many changes made to the Day 3 ERO, especially with
    respect to the well-collaborated High Risk issued overnight. Latest
    trends in the guidance do support nudging the High a little farther
    south, perhaps even south of EKA. For now, have begun that shift,
    but not drastically so. Will evaluate further with the overnight
    package to see if more adjustments are necessary (including moving
    the High Risk south of EKA).=20

    ...Previous Discussion Below...The deep northeast Pacific Vortex=20
    remains nearly stationary day 3 off the Pacific Northwest coast,=20
    supporting the continuation of the multi day Atmospheric River=20
    event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous deep=20
    layered southwesterly flow will continue on the south side of this=20
    vortex. 850 to 700 mb moisture flux anomalies will continue to be 2
    to 4+ standard deviations above the mean with IVT values also=20
    maintained in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across northwest CA=20
    into far southwest OR. There is a likelihood of very heavy rains=20
    again falling day 3 over similar regions from the day 2 period.=20
    Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to continue at times supporting=20
    additional 24 hour rainfall amounts of 3 to 6 inches and isolated=20
    additional 24 hour totals of 6-8" across northwest CA into=20
    southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to 16+ inches possible=20
    across portions of northwest California. Given this day 2-3 heavy=20
    rain overlap potential, a small high risk area was introduced over=20
    northwest CA, across the west central portions of the EKA's CWA.=20
    Flood risks will continue to increase day 3 along with rock and=20
    land slides as soils become saturated and streams and rivers=20
    continue to rise and overflow. There will be a northward shift back
    into far southwest Oregon day 3 for the heavy rain potential as=20
    the upper flow back and heights rise. The rising heights will also=20
    keep much of the day 3 precip as rain, increasing overall runoff.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5j5PJDjEtm1FB7ZjaAfs1EET_482-w1ap8U9SQ6IHq3w= IrR7MUQ-1hdcGac1Gmjk3icJV0I6l3GK1Od95De2tHAskSY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5j5PJDjEtm1FB7ZjaAfs1EET_482-w1ap8U9SQ6IHq3w= IrR7MUQ-1hdcGac1Gmjk3icJV0I6l3GK1Od95De23t6qaAY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5j5PJDjEtm1FB7ZjaAfs1EET_482-w1ap8U9SQ6IHq3w= IrR7MUQ-1hdcGac1Gmjk3icJV0I6l3GK1Od95De23Lim8Zk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 20 00:32:22 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 200032
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    732 PM EST Tue Nov 19 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    ...01Z Update...

    The Slight Risk along the Gulf coast was downgraded as the heaviest
    rain for most has shifted off to the east. In coordination with TAE/Tallahassee, FL forecast office, the Marginal Risk was
    maintained along and south of I-10 east of Panama City for any
    potential isolated flash flooding with the slow moving area of
    heavy rain pushing east across the area. Any flooding concerns are
    relegated mostly to urban and flood-prone areas of the eastern
    Florida Panhandle.

    No changes were made to the Slight and Marginal Risks along the
    West Coast. The multi-day rain event for much of the Washington and
    Oregon coasts is just getting started as the parent low a couple hundred
    miles off the coast of Washington deepens at an astonishing rate.=20
    The last estimate was the low deepened 67 mb in the last 24 hours.
    This is a pressure fall only matched by a very select few storms=20
    in the records, and is more than any north Pacific low in at least=20
    the last 50 years!

    Wegman

    16z update:

    For the central Gulf coast, surface wave along the cold front is
    lifting east-northeast slowly under response of strengthening
    130kt jet across the central MS Valley and is expected to slow a
    bit. Progressive pre-frontal trough leaving eastern LA into the
    northern Gulf is likely to intersect best moisture flux and may
    limit northward expansion of unstable air north into S MS/S AL/W
    FL, but if it can, stronger, slower moving thunderstorms will
    retain ample risk of producing localized streets of 3-5" across the
    area potentially into SW GA to maintain risk areas with erosion of
    the western side of the risk areas as the front has passed in
    central LA.

    For the West Coast, rapid cyclogenesis is already occurring based
    on GOES-W satellite suite. Showers and perhaps an occasional
    sallow-topped thunderstorm will progress eastward into the WA/OR
    and N CA coast into this evening/overnight. Placement and risk
    categories remain solid that only cosmetic changes were made.

    Gallina

    ----Prior Discussion----
    ...Central Gulf Coast...
    Latest satellite imagery is showing enhancing convection to the
    south of southeast LA associated with the anomalous tropical
    moisture surge ahead of the cold front moving east across the
    Central Gulf Coast. Trends in the latest hi res guidance suggest
    this offshore enhancing convection will become the heaviest
    frontal/pre-frontal rains as organized convection currently along
    the front farther to the north begin to weaken after 1200 UTC. Hi
    res guidance is in fairly good agreement that the heaviest rains
    with the offshore enhancing convection will remain just to the
    south of far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL
    Panhandle, but still affecting far southeast LA. HREF neighborhood probabilities show that the axis of the highest probabilities for 2
    and 3"+ amounts will remain offshore with the northern edge of
    these higher probabilities affecting areas from far southeast LA
    and along the immediate far southern MS, far southern AL and
    western FL Panhandle. Changes to the previous outlook were to trim
    the northern extent of the slight risk area by approximately 20 nm
    and to trim the western extent of the slight risk by approximately
    40nm to account for the hi res trends. At the moment, the consensus
    on timing of convection supports removing the New Orleans metro
    area from the slight risk, with the heaviest rains likely to the
    east and southeast prior to 1200 UTC Tuesday.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...
    Latest models continue to be in good agreement on the rapid
    cyclogenesis event across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific
    Northwest coast, signaling the beginning of a multi day Atmospheric
    River event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous low
    level southerly flow expected along and ahead of the associated
    cold front Tuesday night into early Wednesday, with 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard deviations above the mean
    impacting the coastal Pac NW, south into far northwest CA coast. A
    well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland across
    coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC Wednesday. The
    strong southerly low level flow will be mostly parallel to the
    terrain along the Pac NW coast, limiting hourly rainfall rates to
    .10-.25"+. Greater hourly rates likely across far southwest Oregon
    into coastal NW CA where a more significant upslope component to
    the low level flow is likely. Hi res guidance is fairly similar in
    showing hourly rates of .25-.50"+ in the 0600 to 1200 UTC Wednesday
    period across far southwest OR into far NW CA. HREF .50"/hr
    probabilities subsequently are high across this area, with 1"/hr
    probabilities much lower and primarily offshore. No changes made to
    the previous slight risk area, which corresponds well to the above
    mentioned axis of high .50"+/hr HREF neighborhood probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...1930 UTC Update...
    Slight changes were made to the Day 2 ERO out in CA and far
    southwest OR -- mainly to trim the northern portion of the Moderate
    Risk, while also pulling the southern peripheries of the Moderate/Slight/Marginal Risk areas slightly southward based on the
    latest guidance trends. The Moderate is now closer (though still
    north of) the Bay area, where the latest (12Z) HREF 24
    probabilities of >8" in 24hrs is now 60-80+ percent.

    Hurley

    ...Previous discussion...
    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 1 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 2,
    primarily across northwest California. The rapidly deepening low
    over the northeast Pacific day 1 will anchor a nearly stationary
    upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 2. Strong persistent deep
    layered west southwest flow on the south side of this vortex will
    impact northwest California day 2, with IVT values of 500-800
    km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard
    deviations above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement
    with heavy precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest
    California, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. The previous
    moderate risk area was adjusted slightly southward by approximately
    10-40 nm to account for model max axis consensus. Hourly rainfall
    amounts of .25-.50"+ likely through the day 2 time period across
    northwest CA with increasing flooding risks with time as soils
    become saturated and streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for .50"+ totals for the first half of day 2 when
    the data is available, remain high across northwest CA.


    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...1930 UTC Update...
    Not too many changes made to the Day 3 ERO, especially with
    respect to the well-collaborated High Risk issued overnight. Latest
    trends in the guidance do support nudging the High a little farther
    south, perhaps even south of EKA. For now, have begun that shift,
    but not drastically so. Will evaluate further with the overnight
    package to see if more adjustments are necessary (including moving
    the High Risk south of EKA).

    ...Previous Discussion Below...The deep northeast Pacific Vortex
    remains nearly stationary day 3 off the Pacific Northwest coast,
    supporting the continuation of the multi day Atmospheric River
    event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous deep
    layered southwesterly flow will continue on the south side of this
    vortex. 850 to 700 mb moisture flux anomalies will continue to be 2
    to 4+ standard deviations above the mean with IVT values also
    maintained in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across northwest CA
    into far southwest OR. There is a likelihood of very heavy rains
    again falling day 3 over similar regions from the day 2 period.
    Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to continue at times supporting
    additional 24 hour rainfall amounts of 3 to 6 inches and isolated
    additional 24 hour totals of 6-8" across northwest CA into
    southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to 16+ inches possible
    across portions of northwest California. Given this day 2-3 heavy
    rain overlap potential, a small high risk area was introduced over
    northwest CA, across the west central portions of the EKA's CWA.
    Flood risks will continue to increase day 3 along with rock and
    land slides as soils become saturated and streams and rivers
    continue to rise and overflow. There will be a northward shift back
    into far southwest Oregon day 3 for the heavy rain potential as
    the upper flow back and heights rise. The rising heights will also
    keep much of the day 3 precip as rain, increasing overall runoff.


    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5hZQUjGL-90aQFMnIlY48vs1FZd-FGp4-AcgyIKRYvJz= M4is3TRJGp0H2kjrvrAH0ATCv-6zZjyoDCFKjO-2Yo0H3R8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5hZQUjGL-90aQFMnIlY48vs1FZd-FGp4-AcgyIKRYvJz= M4is3TRJGp0H2kjrvrAH0ATCv-6zZjyoDCFKjO-2c_5N85I$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5hZQUjGL-90aQFMnIlY48vs1FZd-FGp4-AcgyIKRYvJz= M4is3TRJGp0H2kjrvrAH0ATCv-6zZjyoDCFKjO-2OuwFwHk$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 20 08:09:26 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 200809
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    309 AM EST Wed Nov 20 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The latest model guidance remains consistent with the overall
    evolution of the strong multi day atmospheric river event into
    northwest California. The low that deepened rapidly over the
    northeast Pacific Tuesday, will continue to anchor deep layered=20=20
    west southwest flow on the south side of this system, impacting=20=20
    northwest California day 1 with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2.=20
    and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard deviations=20
    above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement with heavy=20
    precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest California and the
    northern Sierra, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are very high for 5"+ amounts across
    northern California, with most areas showing 80-90%+, while 8"+
    probabilities are 40-80% along the northwest CA coast and 40-60%+
    over the northern Sierra. Hourly rainfall amounts of .25-.50"+=20
    likely through the day 1 time period across northwest CA with=20
    increasing flooding risks with time as soils become saturated and=20
    streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for=20
    .50"+ totals remain high in the max inflow band across northwest=20
    CA for all of day 1. This band does continue to sink south for the
    first few hours of day 1, but then become nearly stationary for the
    remainder of the day 1 time period. No significant change to the
    previous outlook. The slight risk was extended approximately 75
    miles farther south in the lee of the northern Sierra where 2-4"
    rainfall totals are possible.


    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The strong Atmospheric river event into northwest California will
    continue into day 2 as deep layered southwesterly flow continues=20
    to the south of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous=20
    deep layered southwesterly flow will continue to support 850 to 700
    mb moisture flux anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above=20
    the mean and IVT values in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across=20
    northwest CA. During the second half of day 2, a strong vort=20
    rotating around the base of the northeast Pacific vortex will=20
    support another rapidly deepening low moving northeast=20
    approximately 200 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast. While this
    second rapid cyclogenesis event will not be as strong as the=20
    Tuesday event, it will help to begin to push the best onshore flow=20
    axis back to the north during the second half of day 2, returning=20
    heavy precip into southwest Oregon. There is a likelihood of very=20
    heavy rains again falling day 2 over similar regions from the day 1
    period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to continue at times=20
    supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts of 3 to 6 inches and
    isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8" across northwest CA=20
    into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to 16+ inches possible
    across portions of northwest California. Given the 2 days of very=20
    heavy totals in the same region, no significant changes were made=20
    to the previous high risk area. Significant flood risks will=20
    continue to increase day 2 along with rock and land slides as soils
    become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise and=20
    overflow. Ahead of the next deepening low, rising heights over=20
    northern California will keep much of the precipitation in the form
    of rain. This will increase the runoff threats for areas in the=20
    lee of the northern Sierra. Across this region, the risk area was=20
    increased from slight to moderate from the previous issuance.

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...


    The multi day atmospheric rive event will begin to weaken on day 3
    as the onshore southwesterly flow weakens and the best onshore flow
    axis shifts southward. The heaviest totals day 3 likely into the
    upslope of the northern Sierra where high heights will again favor
    a majority of the precip falling as rain. A moderate risk was added
    for this region where additional totals day 3 of 2-4 inches
    possible across areas that received 5-8+ inches days 1 and 2. Along
    the northwest California coast, additional heavy preip totals=20
    likely day 3, but amounts will be much less than the day 1 and day
    2 amounts, generally 1 to 1.50"+, with localized 2"+ totals. A=20
    slight risk was maintained here given the effects from the day 1=20
    and 2 amounts, which will support additional runoff issues for=20
    lesser than normal amounts to produce runoff concerns.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5N821XfX5NC8TDN8OXgdxHpLY8uJp14FpLPBtC6fShe0= 8Qfb_e0obBmnRUFjb8XzVD5vd9aKc2DYH0OpgMvF5JCWEAE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5N821XfX5NC8TDN8OXgdxHpLY8uJp14FpLPBtC6fShe0= 8Qfb_e0obBmnRUFjb8XzVD5vd9aKc2DYH0OpgMvFLG-EwWw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5N821XfX5NC8TDN8OXgdxHpLY8uJp14FpLPBtC6fShe0= 8Qfb_e0obBmnRUFjb8XzVD5vd9aKc2DYH0OpgMvFT902amw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 20 15:29:20 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 201529
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1029 AM EST Wed Nov 20 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    16z update:
    GOES-W and CIRA LPW satellite trends depict a tad slightly faster
    trend toward southward intersection to the coast and southwest
    facing orographic in Northern California this morning. 12z Hi-Res
    guidance shows some small adjustments southward to mimic this trend
    with the 12z ARW most aggressively so. The principle
    dynamics/thermodynamics remain solid in placement/magnitude of the
    AR plume with 500-800 kg/m/s expected throughout the remainder of
    the forecast period. Guidance also suggests further eastward push
    of the warm front and rising freezing levels across all but the
    highest peaks of the Trinity and northern Sierra Nevada Ranges

    As such, adjustments to the Marginal and Slight Risk areas were
    made to increase toward the interior/middle slopes of southwest
    facing ranges, as well as southeast expansion in central CA to
    account for recent trends.=20

    Gallina

    ----Prior Discussion----
    The latest model guidance remains consistent with the overall
    evolution of the strong multi day atmospheric river event into
    northwest California. The low that deepened rapidly over the
    northeast Pacific Tuesday, will continue to anchor deep layered
    west southwest flow on the south side of this system, impacting
    northwest California day 1 with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2.
    and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard deviations
    above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement with heavy
    precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest California and the
    northern Sierra, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are very high for 5"+ amounts across
    northern California, with most areas showing 80-90%+, while 8"+
    probabilities are 40-80% along the northwest CA coast and 40-60%+
    over the northern Sierra. Hourly rainfall amounts of .25-.50"+
    likely through the day 1 time period across northwest CA with
    increasing flooding risks with time as soils become saturated and
    streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for
    .50"+ totals remain high in the max inflow band across northwest
    CA for all of day 1. This band does continue to sink south for the
    first few hours of day 1, but then become nearly stationary for the
    remainder of the day 1 time period. No significant change to the
    previous outlook. The slight risk was extended approximately 75
    miles farther south in the lee of the northern Sierra where 2-4"
    rainfall totals are possible.


    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The strong Atmospheric river event into northwest California will
    continue into day 2 as deep layered southwesterly flow continues
    to the south of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous
    deep layered southwesterly flow will continue to support 850 to 700
    mb moisture flux anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above
    the mean and IVT values in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across
    northwest CA. During the second half of day 2, a strong vort
    rotating around the base of the northeast Pacific vortex will
    support another rapidly deepening low moving northeast
    approximately 200 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast. While this
    second rapid cyclogenesis event will not be as strong as the
    Tuesday event, it will help to begin to push the best onshore flow
    axis back to the north during the second half of day 2, returning
    heavy precip into southwest Oregon. There is a likelihood of very
    heavy rains again falling day 2 over similar regions from the day 1
    period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to continue at times
    supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts of 3 to 6 inches and
    isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8" across northwest CA
    into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to 16+ inches possible
    across portions of northwest California. Given the 2 days of very
    heavy totals in the same region, no significant changes were made
    to the previous high risk area. Significant flood risks will
    continue to increase day 2 along with rock and land slides as soils
    become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise and
    overflow. Ahead of the next deepening low, rising heights over
    northern California will keep much of the precipitation in the form
    of rain. This will increase the runoff threats for areas in the
    lee of the northern Sierra. Across this region, the risk area was
    increased from slight to moderate from the previous issuance.

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...


    The multi day atmospheric rive event will begin to weaken on day 3
    as the onshore southwesterly flow weakens and the best onshore flow
    axis shifts southward. The heaviest totals day 3 likely into the
    upslope of the northern Sierra where high heights will again favor
    a majority of the precip falling as rain. A moderate risk was added
    for this region where additional totals day 3 of 2-4 inches
    possible across areas that received 5-8+ inches days 1 and 2. Along
    the northwest California coast, additional heavy preip totals
    likely day 3, but amounts will be much less than the day 1 and day
    2 amounts, generally 1 to 1.50"+, with localized 2"+ totals. A
    slight risk was maintained here given the effects from the day 1
    and 2 amounts, which will support additional runoff issues for
    lesser than normal amounts to produce runoff concerns.

    Oravec

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NkhsULdrBTCEuX6dyqOvkWhn0afQ8q_Y-CJYbYGkwvs= gQVhtCaRyUuP-c3O_Cge1DLv1Ct3fk8_K4pAtH90R6Kxlog$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NkhsULdrBTCEuX6dyqOvkWhn0afQ8q_Y-CJYbYGkwvs= gQVhtCaRyUuP-c3O_Cge1DLv1Ct3fk8_K4pAtH90zqVpX3s$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_NkhsULdrBTCEuX6dyqOvkWhn0afQ8q_Y-CJYbYGkwvs= gQVhtCaRyUuP-c3O_Cge1DLv1Ct3fk8_K4pAtH90tL-lOsI$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Nov 20 19:30:22 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 201930
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    230 PM EST Wed Nov 20 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    16z update:
    GOES-W and CIRA LPW satellite trends depict a tad slightly faster
    trend toward southward intersection to the coast and southwest
    facing orographic in Northern California this morning. 12z Hi-Res
    guidance shows some small adjustments southward to mimic this trend
    with the 12z ARW most aggressively so. The principle
    dynamics/thermodynamics remain solid in placement/magnitude of the
    AR plume with 500-800 kg/m/s expected throughout the remainder of
    the forecast period. Guidance also suggests further eastward push
    of the warm front and rising freezing levels across all but the
    highest peaks of the Trinity and northern Sierra Nevada Ranges

    As such, adjustments to the Marginal and Slight Risk areas were
    made to increase toward the interior/middle slopes of southwest
    facing ranges, as well as southeast expansion in central CA to
    account for recent trends.

    Gallina

    ----Prior Discussion----
    The latest model guidance remains consistent with the overall
    evolution of the strong multi day atmospheric river event into
    northwest California. The low that deepened rapidly over the
    northeast Pacific Tuesday, will continue to anchor deep layered
    west southwest flow on the south side of this system, impacting
    northwest California day 1 with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2.
    and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard deviations
    above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement with heavy
    precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest California and the
    northern Sierra, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are very high for 5"+ amounts across
    northern California, with most areas showing 80-90%+, while 8"+
    probabilities are 40-80% along the northwest CA coast and 40-60%+
    over the northern Sierra. Hourly rainfall amounts of .25-.50"+
    likely through the day 1 time period across northwest CA with
    increasing flooding risks with time as soils become saturated and
    streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for
    .50"+ totals remain high in the max inflow band across northwest
    CA for all of day 1. This band does continue to sink south for the
    first few hours of day 1, but then become nearly stationary for the
    remainder of the day 1 time period. No significant change to the
    previous outlook. The slight risk was extended approximately 75
    miles farther south in the lee of the northern Sierra where 2-4"
    rainfall totals are possible.


    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    Life-threatening flooding across coastal Northwest California is
    expected due to the very strong and long duration atmospheric=20
    river Thursday into Thursday night. Dangerous flooding, rock=20
    slides, and debris flows are likely.=20

    The strong Atmospheric river event into northwest California will
    continue into day 2 as deep layered southwesterly flow continues
    to the south of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous
    deep layered southwesterly flow will support 850 to 700 mb=20
    moisture flux anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above the=20
    mean and IVT values in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across=20
    northwest CA. During the second half of Day 2, a strong vort max
    rotating around the base of the northeast Pacific vortex will=20
    support another rapidly deepening low moving northeast=20
    approximately 200 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast. While this
    second rapid cyclogenesis event will not be as strong as the=20
    Tuesday event, it will help to begin to push the best onshore flow=20
    axis back to the north during the second half of day 2, returning=20
    heavy precip into southwest Oregon. There is a likelihood of very=20
    heavy rains again falling Day 2 over similar regions from Wednesday.
    Hourly rates of 0.50"+ are likely at times supporting additional=20
    24 hour rainfall amounts of 3-6" and isolated additional 24 hour=20
    totals of 6-8" across northwest CA into southwest OR. Storm total=20
    amounts of 12-16"+ possible across portions of northwest=20
    California. Given the 2 day totals in the same region, no=20
    significant changes were made to the previous High Risk area.=20
    Significant flood risks will continue to increase Day 2 along with
    rock and land slides as soils become saturated and streams and=20
    rivers continue to rise and overflow. Ahead of the next deepening=20
    low, rising heights over northern California will keep much of the=20 precipitation in the form of rain. This will increase the runoff=20
    threats for areas in the lee of the northern Sierra.=20

    Taylor

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration atmospheric river does begin to wane throughout
    this period but at least for the first 6-12 hours, heavier
    precipitation with the final push of higher moisture is expected
    across coastal Northern California into southwest Oregon as well as
    portions of the northern Sierra Nevada. Warmer temperatures will
    keep snow levels pretty high such that even into the terrain areas,
    most of the precipitation is expected to fall as rain (aside from
    the highest peaks). This factor along with the rainfall totals
    expected over the course of the next 3 days will heighten the
    flooding risk, particularly for sensitive areas including burn
    scars. The Moderate Risk remains generally unchanged given the
    consistent model guidance and lack of significant changes in the
    QPF. In the northern Sierra Nevada, max amounts of 2-4" are
    expected - the latest PQPF shows high chances for at least 2"
    (above 80%) and moderate values for 4" (30-40%) in the terrain. For
    the lower elevation areas and the coastal ranges, additional
    amounts of 1-2" are expected.=20

    Taylor

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6qKqeRJHF0Wgl7_7Wly9QdT2g6nIa9Q9jYPZKbir3v1z= r1hIQ2rFtM264sV7ManNs7ynvC2DSXgFzmoC_IxFuACJhGI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6qKqeRJHF0Wgl7_7Wly9QdT2g6nIa9Q9jYPZKbir3v1z= r1hIQ2rFtM264sV7ManNs7ynvC2DSXgFzmoC_IxFCKCxmp8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6qKqeRJHF0Wgl7_7Wly9QdT2g6nIa9Q9jYPZKbir3v1z= r1hIQ2rFtM264sV7ManNs7ynvC2DSXgFzmoC_IxFGfGIJ1k$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 210045
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    745 PM EST Wed Nov 20 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    01Z Update:=20
    Latest MRMS QPE and observed rainfall reports are starting to
    indicate more .50+ in/hr rates along the NorCal coastal ranges,
    especially northwest of Santa Rosa. Expect these areas of heavier
    rainfall rates to expand northward overnight, including the King
    Range south of Eureka, especially after 06Z per the latest (18Z)
    HREF probabilities. Given the latest trends, there is no need to
    change the configuration of the current Moderate, Slight, and
    Marginal Risk areas.

    Hurley

    ----Prior Discussion----
    The latest model guidance remains consistent with the overall
    evolution of the strong multi day atmospheric river event into
    northwest California. The low that deepened rapidly over the
    northeast Pacific Tuesday, will continue to anchor deep layered
    west southwest flow on the south side of this system, impacting
    northwest California day 1 with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2.
    and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard deviations
    above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement with heavy
    precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest California and the
    northern Sierra, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are very high for 5"+ amounts across
    northern California, with most areas showing 80-90%+, while 8"+
    probabilities are 40-80% along the northwest CA coast and 40-60%+
    over the northern Sierra. Hourly rainfall amounts of .25-.50"+
    likely through the day 1 time period across northwest CA with
    increasing flooding risks with time as soils become saturated and
    streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for
    .50"+ totals remain high in the max inflow band across northwest
    CA for all of day 1. This band does continue to sink south for the
    first few hours of day 1, but then become nearly stationary for the
    remainder of the day 1 time period. No significant change to the
    previous outlook. The slight risk was extended approximately 75
    miles farther south in the lee of the northern Sierra where 2-4"
    rainfall totals are possible.


    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    Life-threatening flooding across coastal Northwest California is
    expected due to the very strong and long duration atmospheric
    river Thursday into Thursday night. Dangerous flooding, rock
    slides, and debris flows are likely.

    The strong Atmospheric river event into northwest California will
    continue into day 2 as deep layered southwesterly flow continues
    to the south of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous
    deep layered southwesterly flow will support 850 to 700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean and IVT values in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across
    northwest CA. During the second half of Day 2, a strong vort max
    rotating around the base of the northeast Pacific vortex will
    support another rapidly deepening low moving northeast
    approximately 200 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast. While this
    second rapid cyclogenesis event will not be as strong as the
    Tuesday event, it will help to begin to push the best onshore flow
    axis back to the north during the second half of day 2, returning
    heavy precip into southwest Oregon. There is a likelihood of very
    heavy rains again falling Day 2 over similar regions from Wednesday.
    Hourly rates of 0.50"+ are likely at times supporting additional
    24 hour rainfall amounts of 3-6" and isolated additional 24 hour
    totals of 6-8" across northwest CA into southwest OR. Storm total
    amounts of 12-16"+ possible across portions of northwest
    California. Given the 2 day totals in the same region, no
    significant changes were made to the previous High Risk area.
    Significant flood risks will continue to increase Day 2 along with
    rock and land slides as soils become saturated and streams and
    rivers continue to rise and overflow. Ahead of the next deepening
    low, rising heights over northern California will keep much of the precipitation in the form of rain. This will increase the runoff
    threats for areas in the lee of the northern Sierra.

    Taylor

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration atmospheric river does begin to wane throughout
    this period but at least for the first 6-12 hours, heavier
    precipitation with the final push of higher moisture is expected
    across coastal Northern California into southwest Oregon as well as
    portions of the northern Sierra Nevada. Warmer temperatures will
    keep snow levels pretty high such that even into the terrain areas,
    most of the precipitation is expected to fall as rain (aside from
    the highest peaks). This factor along with the rainfall totals
    expected over the course of the next 3 days will heighten the
    flooding risk, particularly for sensitive areas including burn
    scars. The Moderate Risk remains generally unchanged given the
    consistent model guidance and lack of significant changes in the
    QPF. In the northern Sierra Nevada, max amounts of 2-4" are
    expected - the latest PQPF shows high chances for at least 2"
    (above 80%) and moderate values for 4" (30-40%) in the terrain. For
    the lower elevation areas and the coastal ranges, additional
    amounts of 1-2" are expected.

    Taylor

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tqPnJf6fP8XjuixRzUbZucTU1CymzPLO01FpIyqhcaL= NCAt2ba6bIJx7RovwwGUlG0bE8LuoN3RePARGmi9XGd5W3o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tqPnJf6fP8XjuixRzUbZucTU1CymzPLO01FpIyqhcaL= NCAt2ba6bIJx7RovwwGUlG0bE8LuoN3RePARGmi9njq2KQ0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9tqPnJf6fP8XjuixRzUbZucTU1CymzPLO01FpIyqhcaL= NCAt2ba6bIJx7RovwwGUlG0bE8LuoN3RePARGmi9JqzmG3U$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 21 07:31:28 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 210731
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    231 AM EST Thu Nov 21 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...Northern California and Southwest Oregon...

    Life-threatening flooding across coastal areas of northwest=20
    California is expected due to the very strong and long duration=20
    atmospheric river currently impacting the region which will
    continue through Thursday night. Dangerous flooding and debris
    flows are likely which will include rock and landslide activity
    along with a threat for burn scar flash flooding.

    The strong atmospheric river event into northern California will=20
    continue as deep layered southwesterly flow continues to the south=20
    of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous deep layered=20 southwesterly flow will support 850 to 700 mb moisture flux=20
    anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above the mean and IVT=20
    values in the 500 to 800 kg/m/s range across northwest CA. This=20
    will also be focused in close proximity to a quasi-stationary front
    draped in a southwest to northeast fashion across the region.=20
    However, the latest model guidance continues to advertise a strong=20
    vort max/jet streak rotating around the base of the northeast=20
    Pacific vortex by Thursday afternoon and this will support another=20
    rapidly deepening surface low moving northeastward along the front=20
    and to a position about 200 to 250 miles offshore of western Oregon
    by very early Friday morning. While this second rapid cyclogenesis
    event will not be as strong as its predecessor, it will help to=20
    begin to push the axis of strongest onshore flow/moisture transport
    back to the north. This will allow for heavy rains already=20
    impacting northern California to edge back into southwest Oregon.=20
    Rainfall rates are expected to reach 0.50" to 0.75"/hour at times=20
    which is well supported by the 00Z HREF guidance. The persistence=20
    of these rates are expected to support additional 24-hour rainfall=20
    amounts of 3-6" and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-10"=20
    across northwest California, and this will bring storm total=20
    amounts to as much as 12-16"+ by early Friday morning. Somewhat=20
    lower rainfall totals are expected for southwest Oregon, but an=20
    additional 3-5" of rain is forecast here by early Friday morning.=20
    Given the expected 2-day totals in the same region, the High Risk=20
    area is maintained with very little change. Significant flood risks
    will evolve today through Thursday night and early Friday morning=20
    as soils become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise=20
    and overflow. Impacts will likely include debris flows along with=20
    rock and landslide activity. Additionally, there may be some burn=20
    scar flash flooding concerns as well given the relatively high=20
    rainfall rates over these very sensitive areas. The Park Fire burn=20
    area involving portions of Tehama and Butte Counties is one such=20
    location that may see impacts.

    Orrison

    Day 2 Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS=20
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration atmospheric river begins to become more=20
    progressive and wane in intensity Friday as a cold front finally=20
    pushes the moisture axis southward. However still expecting rather=20 widespread 0.25" per hour rates with this last push of rainfall,=20
    with localized 0.5" per hour amounts likely. These higher rates=20
    should only last for a couple hours during the morning over coastal=20
    areas, but should persist a bit longer in the Sierra Nevada. Overall=20 expecting 1-3" of additional rain over coastal areas, with 3-6" over=20
    the northern Sierra Nevada. Warmer temperatures will keep snow=20
    levels pretty high such that even into the terrain areas, most of=20
    the precipitation is expected to fall as rain (aside from the=20
    highest peaks).=20

    By Friday conditions over much of the area will be saturated, and=20
    this last push of elevated rainfall rates on top of saturated ground=20
    will likely result in a continued flood threat...with additional=20
    landslides likely and a continued risk of burn scar flash flooding.=20
    Only minor changes were made to the inherited ERO areas. A MDT risk=20
    remains for the northern Sierra Nevada where the heavier rainfall=20
    will persist longer into Friday resulting in the aforementioned=20
    higher additional rainfall totals. A flooding risk is likely to be=20
    ongoing over coastal areas as well Friday morning, but should be a=20
    shorter lived threat with the higher rainfall rates coming to an end=20 quicker...thus will continue to carry a Slight risk here.

    Chenard

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SIERRA NEVADA...

    At 12z Saturday the cold front and associated moisture plume will be=20 dropping south across the central Sierra Nevada. Rainfall intensity=20
    will be dropping fairly quickly by this time and the prolonged=20
    atmospheric river event will finally be coming to an end. We will=20
    continue to carry a small Marginal risk over portions of the Sierra=20
    Nevada where an additional 1-2" of rain is possible Saturday=20
    morning. Typically rainfall of this magnitude would not be a=20
    concern. However, much of this risk area will have seen at least 3-
    7" of rain total from the event, so even the modest additional=20
    rainfall Saturday morning could result in a flood threat, and thus=20 continuing with a Marginal risk for now seems best. Although the=20
    risk is certainly lower than previous days, and quite possible this=20
    risk could be removed on future updates if additional rain after 12z=20 Saturday trends down.

    Chenard

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-jtaC7D_xGvpQ8B-7db95qGHNQHIycyU-WTOIqutP0Vk= IslRy0PdvFprVOKtdzexP8aRPdJVAzV30JiIW8dIXFfv29k$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-jtaC7D_xGvpQ8B-7db95qGHNQHIycyU-WTOIqutP0Vk= IslRy0PdvFprVOKtdzexP8aRPdJVAzV30JiIW8dIr_Bhcvo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-jtaC7D_xGvpQ8B-7db95qGHNQHIycyU-WTOIqutP0Vk= IslRy0PdvFprVOKtdzexP8aRPdJVAzV30JiIW8dIXN4cm2k$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 21 07:37:38 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 210737
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    237 AM EST Thu Nov 21 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF=20
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...Northern California and Southwest Oregon...

    Life-threatening flooding across coastal areas of northwest=20
    California is expected due to the very strong and long duration=20
    atmospheric river currently impacting the region which will=20
    continue through Thursday night. Dangerous flooding and debris=20
    flows are likely which will include rock and landslide activity=20
    along with a threat for burn scar flash flooding.

    The strong atmospheric river event into northern California will
    continue as deep layered southwesterly flow continues to the south
    of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous deep layered
    southwesterly flow will support 850 to 700 mb moisture flux
    anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above the mean and IVT
    values in the 500 to 800 kg/m/s range across northwest CA. This
    will also be focused in close proximity to a quasi-stationary front
    draped in a southwest to northeast fashion across the region.
    However, the latest model guidance continues to advertise a strong
    vort max/jet streak rotating around the base of the northeast
    Pacific vortex by Thursday afternoon and this will support another
    rapidly deepening surface low moving northeastward along the front
    and to a position about 200 to 250 miles offshore of western Oregon
    by very early Friday morning. While this second rapid cyclogenesis
    event will not be as strong as its predecessor, it will help to
    begin to push the axis of strongest onshore flow/moisture transport
    back to the north. This will allow for heavy rains already
    impacting northern California to edge back into southwest Oregon.
    Rainfall rates are expected to reach 0.50" to 0.75"/hour at times
    which is well supported by the 00Z HREF guidance. The persistence
    of these rates are expected to support additional 24-hour rainfall
    amounts of 3-6" and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-10"
    across northwest California, and this will bring storm total
    amounts to as much as 12-16"+ by early Friday morning. Somewhat
    lower rainfall totals are expected for southwest Oregon, but an
    additional 3-5" of rain is forecast here by early Friday morning.
    Given the expected 2-day totals in the same region, the High Risk
    area is maintained with very little change. Significant flood risks
    will evolve today through Thursday night and early Friday morning
    as soils become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise
    and overflow. Impacts will likely include debris flows along with
    rock and landslide activity. Additionally, there may be some burn
    scar flash flooding concerns as well given the relatively high
    rainfall rates over these very sensitive areas. The Park Fire burn
    area involving portions of Tehama and Butte Counties is one such
    location that may see impacts.

    Orrison

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration atmospheric river begins to become more=20
    progressive and wane in intensity Friday as a cold front finally=20
    pushes the moisture axis southward. However still expecting rather=20 widespread 0.25" per hour rates with this last push of rainfall,=20
    with localized 0.5" per hour amounts likely. These higher rates=20
    should only last for a couple hours during the morning over coastal
    areas, but should persist a bit longer in the Sierra Nevada.=20
    Overall expecting 1-3" of additional rain over coastal areas, with=20
    3-6" over the northern Sierra Nevada. Warmer temperatures will keep
    snow levels pretty high such that even into the terrain areas,=20
    most of the precipitation is expected to fall as rain (aside from=20
    the highest peaks).

    By Friday conditions over much of the area will be saturated, and
    this last push of elevated rainfall rates on top of saturated ground
    will likely result in a continued flood threat...with additional
    landslides likely and a continued risk of burn scar flash flooding.
    Only minor changes were made to the inherited ERO areas. A MDT risk
    remains for the northern Sierra Nevada where the heavier rainfall
    will persist longer into Friday resulting in the aforementioned
    higher additional rainfall totals. A flooding risk is likely to be
    ongoing over coastal areas as well Friday morning, but should be a
    shorter lived threat with the higher rainfall rates coming to an end quicker...thus will continue to carry a Slight risk here.

    Chenard

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA NEVADA...

    At 12z Saturday the cold front and associated moisture plume will be
    dropping south across the central Sierra Nevada. Rainfall intensity
    will be dropping fairly quickly by this time and the prolonged
    atmospheric river event will finally be coming to an end. We will
    continue to carry a small Marginal risk over portions of the Sierra
    Nevada where an additional 1-2" of rain is possible Saturday
    morning. Typically rainfall of this magnitude would not be a
    concern. However, much of this risk area will have seen at least 3-
    7" of rain total from the event, so even the modest additional
    rainfall Saturday morning could result in a flood threat, and thus
    continuing with a Marginal risk for now seems best. Although the
    risk is certainly lower than previous days, and quite possible this
    risk could be removed on future updates if additional rain after 12z
    Saturday trends down.

    Chenard

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UjCNnFx4KfK9kMbRrasKfnquyXQgz_a5BfLM8FmeDh9= ppkIVzsiti_O5wq3X6iEWzGj4w4COiefXvHelK5rZWjaSBo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UjCNnFx4KfK9kMbRrasKfnquyXQgz_a5BfLM8FmeDh9= ppkIVzsiti_O5wq3X6iEWzGj4w4COiefXvHelK5rin-3YjE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4UjCNnFx4KfK9kMbRrasKfnquyXQgz_a5BfLM8FmeDh9= ppkIVzsiti_O5wq3X6iEWzGj4w4COiefXvHelK5rAfuUQOU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu Nov 21 15:46:02 2024
    FOUS30 KWBC 211545
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1045 AM EST Thu Nov 21 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    ...Northern California and Southwest Oregon...

    16z update:
    Recent heavy rainfall across coastal ranges north of San Fran Bay
    in the vicinity of Point Arena have brought 0-40cm soil saturation
    ratios above 85 to 95%, well above the 95th percentile; so have
    expanded the categorical risk areas southward to account for=20
    higher probability for increased runoff given continuous=20
    orientation of the plume directed across this area for much of the=20
    remainder of the forecast period.=20

    Additionally across SW Oregon, expecting surge of warm air to
    infiltrate the region to bring freezing levels up to allow for
    increased rainfall totals across all but the highest peaks in the
    southern Cascade Ranges west...and have expanded the Marginal Risk
    areas a bit further northeast to account for this occurring mainly
    after 00z, as the return warm front lifts through.=20

    Gallina


    ----Prior Discussion----
    Life-threatening flooding across coastal=20
    areas of northwest California is expected due to the very strong=20
    and long duration atmospheric river currently impacting the region
    which will continue through Thursday night. Dangerous flooding=20
    and debris flows are likely which will include rock and landslide=20
    activity along with a threat for burn scar flash flooding.

    The strong atmospheric river event into northern California will
    continue as deep layered southwesterly flow continues to the south
    of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous deep layered
    southwesterly flow will support 850 to 700 mb moisture flux
    anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above the mean and IVT
    values in the 500 to 800 kg/m/s range across northwest CA. This
    will also be focused in close proximity to a quasi-stationary front
    draped in a southwest to northeast fashion across the region.
    However, the latest model guidance continues to advertise a strong
    vort max/jet streak rotating around the base of the northeast
    Pacific vortex by Thursday afternoon and this will support another
    rapidly deepening surface low moving northeastward along the front
    and to a position about 200 to 250 miles offshore of western Oregon
    by very early Friday morning. While this second rapid cyclogenesis
    event will not be as strong as its predecessor, it will help to
    begin to push the axis of strongest onshore flow/moisture transport
    back to the north. This will allow for heavy rains already
    impacting northern California to edge back into southwest Oregon.
    Rainfall rates are expected to reach 0.50" to 0.75"/hour at times
    which is well supported by the 00Z HREF guidance. The persistence
    of these rates are expected to support additional 24-hour rainfall
    amounts of 3-6" and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-10"
    across northwest California, and this will bring storm total
    amounts to as much as 12-16"+ by early Friday morning. Somewhat
    lower rainfall totals are expected for southwest Oregon, but an
    additional 3-5" of rain is forecast here by early Friday morning.
    Given the expected 2-day totals in the same region, the High Risk
    area is maintained with very little change. Significant flood risks
    will evolve today through Thursday night and early Friday morning
    as soils become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise
    and overflow. Impacts will likely include debris flows along with
    rock and landslide activity. Additionally, there may be some burn
    scar flash flooding concerns as well given the relatively high
    rainfall rates over these very sensitive areas. The Park Fire burn
    area involving portions of Tehama and Butte Counties is one such
    location that may see impacts.

    Orrison

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration atmospheric river begins to become more
    progressive and wane in intensity Friday as a cold front finally
    pushes the moisture axis southward. However still expecting rather
    widespread 0.25" per hour rates with this last push of rainfall,
    with localized 0.5" per hour amounts likely. These higher rates
    should only last for a couple hours during the morning over coastal
    areas, but should persist a bit longer in the Sierra Nevada.
    Overall expecting 1-3" of additional rain over coastal areas, with
    3-6" over the northern Sierra Nevada. Warmer temperatures will keep
    snow levels pretty high such that even into the terrain areas,
    most of the precipitation is expected to fall as rain (aside from
    the highest peaks).

    By Friday conditions over much of the area will be saturated, and
    this last push of elevated rainfall rates on top of saturated ground
    will likely result in a continued flood threat...with additional
    landslides likely and a continued risk of burn scar flash flooding.
    Only minor changes were made to the inherited ERO areas. A MDT risk
    remains for the northern Sierra Nevada where the heavier rainfall
    will persist longer into Friday resulting in the aforementioned
    higher additional rainfall totals. A flooding risk is likely to be
    ongoing over coastal areas as well Friday morning, but should be a
    shorter lived threat with the higher rainfall rates coming to an end quicker...thus will continue to carry a Slight risk here.

    Chenard

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA NEVADA...

    At 12z Saturday the cold front and associated moisture plume will be
    dropping south across the central Sierra Nevada. Rainfall intensity
    will be dropping fairly quickly by this time and the prolonged
    atmospheric river event will finally be coming to an end. We will
    continue to carry a small Marginal risk over portions of the Sierra
    Nevada where an additional 1-2" of rain is possible Saturday
    morning. Typically rainfall of this magnitude would not be a
    concern. However, much of this risk area will have seen at least 3-
    7" of rain total from the event, so even the modest additional
    rainfall Saturday morning could result in a flood threat, and thus
    continuing with a Marginal risk for now seems best. Although the
    risk is certainly lower than previous days, and quite possible this
    risk could be removed on future updates if additional rain after 12z
    Saturday trends down.

    Chenard

    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uQPjp5x8aGa5l2EwrxoXnC45eQxtipYchNf_bTjc0qb= adzbDLAHrj4lOoOth_XWwW_AzUE7ks1pkqbIGs-fBOD9BoY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uQPjp5x8aGa5l2EwrxoXnC45eQxtipYchNf_bTjc0qb= adzbDLAHrj4lOoOth_XWwW_AzUE7ks1pkqbIGs-fSoYFPGc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4uQPjp5x8aGa5l2EwrxoXnC45eQxtipYchNf_bTjc0qb= adzbDLAHrj4lOoOth_XWwW_AzUE7ks1pkqbIGs-feXixkeg$=20

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