Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to Gamgee on Sun Nov 24 2024 15:20:53

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to bbsing on Sun Nov 24 2024 08:25 am

One thing I don't understand about it, is why becoming part of it is so

Dealing with some of the people to get back in and get setup, I'm beginning

What are some of the issues you are experiencing?

What have you tried?

I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has received my messages.

to wonder why I'm trying myself. The are other networks that I am in and so far, much better to deal with.

Certainly is frustrating, but if your goal is to have a node and offer Fidonet, its a good reason to keep trying.

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Grease on Mon Nov 25 2024 11:19 am

What are some of the issues you are experiencing?
What have you tried?
I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has received my messages.

Pretty much the same as you. I was NC of 1:170 back in the 90's. Five years
ago I had a node number and was fine. The guy for R19, I know and have had several messages and netmails to, basically has me set up, ready to go. It's theNC of 1:106 that I can't get ahold of. So, 1:396/45 will help if he or I can't get through to him.
It just seems that there is an attitude of "We're FidoNet and you need us,
not the other way around". When other networks I'm in is easier to join and just as busy.

Grease (Will)
HobbyNet: 954:200/56
HealthNet: 999:1/6
tqwNet: 1337:3/208

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to bbsing on Tue Nov 26 2024 10:06 am

Howdy,

I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has received my messages.

Pretty much the same as you. I was NC of 1:170 back in the 90's. Five years ago I had a node number and was fine. The guy for R19, I know and have had several messages and netmails to, basically has me set up, ready to go. It's theNC of 1:106 that I can't get ahold of. So, 1:396/45 will help if he or I can't get through to him.

It just seems that there is an attitude of "We're FidoNet and you need us, not the other way around". When other networks I'm in is easier to join and just as busy.

If you guys are having trouble getting into fidonet, I can provide you with a point off my (othernet) Hub (which has a fidonet address). It'll be a zone 3 address, but it'll get you online until you can sort out a real address if you want to go that path.

Let me know.


...δεσ∩

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to bbsing on Tue Nov 26 2024 10:06 am

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Grease on Mon Nov 25 2024 11:19 am

What are some of the issues you are experiencing?
What have you tried?
I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has received my messages.

Pretty much the same as you. I was NC of 1:170 back in the 90's. Five years ago I had a node number and was fine. The guy for R19, I know and have had several messages and netmails to, basically has me set up, ready to go. It's theNC of 1:106 that I can't get ahold of. So, 1:396/45 will help if he or I can't get through to him.
It just seems that there is an attitude of "We're FidoNet and you need us, not the other way around". When other networks I'm in is easier to join and just as busy.

well this isn't the old days. you can get anybody as your fidonet feed. they try to push you to get ones in your area but you don't have to.

just have marc lewis feed you.
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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: deon to Grease on Wed Nov 27 2024 08:12 am

If you guys are having trouble getting into fidonet, I can provide you with a point off my (othernet) Hub (which has a fidonet address). It'll be a zone 3 address, but it'll get you online until you can sort out a real address if you want to go that path.

Okay, I'm supposed to find out by the beginning of next week. I'll let you know.

Grease (Will)
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HealthNet: 999:1/6
tqwNet: 1337:3/208

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: MRO to Grease on Tue Nov 26 2024 03:49 pm

well this isn't the old days. you can get anybody as your fidonet feed. they try to push you to get ones in your area but you don't have to.
just have marc lewis feed you.

That's who I've been talking to. He's the helpful one.

Grease (Will)
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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to bbsing on Tue Nov 26 2024 10:06:15

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Grease on Mon Nov 25 2024 11:19 am

What are some of the issues you are experiencing?
What have you tried?
I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has received
my messages.

Pretty much the same as you. I was NC of 1:170 back in the 90's. Five years ago I had a node number and was fine. The guy for R19, I know and have had several messages and netmails to, basically has me
set up, ready to go. It's theNC of 1:106 that I can't get ahold of. So, 1:396/45 will help if he or I can't get through to him.
It just seems that there is an attitude of "We're FidoNet and you need us, not the other way around". When other networks I'm in is easier to join and just as busy.

Thanks for the response Grease.

In my case I don't understand the hold up, specifically after reading policy4 doc, and the regqion 17 guide.

I'll try again, i probably didn't do something correctly.

While writing this message I went back and read policy4 again, and I realize I didn't follow the to the letter how to request a node.

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The message you send must include at least the following information:

1) Your name.
2) Your voice telephone number
3) The name of your system.
4) The city and state where your system is located.
5) The phone number to be used when calling your system.
6) Your hours of operation, netmail and BBS.
7) The maximum baud rate you can support.
8) The type of mailer software and modem you are using.

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Thanks for all who have been discussing this. For a new operator like me these messages help.

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Grease on Tue Nov 26 2024 22:45:54

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to bbsing on Tue Nov 26 2024 10:06:15

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Grease on Mon Nov 25 2024 11:19 am

What are some of the issues you are experiencing?
What have you tried?
I'm trying why I'm not getting communication back from the NC. The issue I'm having is, I don't know if the NC has
received
my messages.

Pretty much the same as you. I was NC of 1:170 back in the 90's. Five years ago I had a node number and was fine. The guy for
R19, I know and have had several messages and netmails to, basically has me
set up, ready to go. It's theNC of 1:106 that I can't get ahold of. So, 1:396/45 will help if he or I can't get through to
him.
It just seems that there is an attitude of "We're FidoNet and you need us, not the other way around". When other networks I'm
in is easier to join and just as busy.

Thanks for the response Grease.

In my case I don't understand the hold up, specifically after reading policy4 doc, and the regqion 17 guide.

I'll try again, i probably didn't do something correctly.

I'm responding to my message, because after doing some more research I see partly why I'm having troubles.

NC for 1:138 system has my IP on a blacklist, connections from my IP address are being rejected/blocked.
NC for 1:340 system requires a password.
NC for 1:105 system bink port doesn't appear to be on. Might be a push only system.

So when trying to send a netmail to these systems via binkp ... fails are what happens.

If you or anyone else is attempting to follow proceedures by sending a netmail like policy4 states, I cant see how this process is supposed to work.

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Once you have located the network or region in your area, send a message containing a request for a node number to node zero of that network or
region. The request must be sent by netmail, as this indicates that your system has FidoNet capability.

You must set up your software so that the from-address in your message does
not cause problems for the coordinator who receives it. If you pick the address of an existing system, this will cause obvious problems. If your software is capable of using address -1/-1, this is the traditional address used by potential sysops. Otherwise use net/9999 (e.g. if you are applying
to net 123, set your system up as 123/9999). Many nets have specific instructions available to potential sysops and these procedures may indicate
a preference for the from-address.

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Hi bbsing,

On 2024-11-27 00:45:29, you wrote to Grease:

NC for 1:138 system has my IP on a blacklist, connections from my IP address are being rejected/blocked.

That is unfortunate. If that situation remains, you schould try and get it resolved, maybe by contacting the RC.
Btw: I can connect just fine to this system.

NC for 1:340 system requires a password.

That is a wrong configuration for any system, specially for a Host. Any system in the nodelist, not Pvt, should be able to receive crash netmails.

That being said, I could just deliver mail fine to this system, without a password, so he might have already configured your system on his. Did you suggest a password for your binkp connections with him? If so use that.

NC for 1:105 system bink port doesn't appear to be on. Might be a push only system.

A host system can't be Pvt/"Push only". Hopefully it's a temporary problem, if not it's a matter for the RC to resolve.
Btw: A moment ago I could connect just fine to this system. So it probably was a temporary problem


Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Grease to MRO on Tue Nov 26 2024 09:01 pm

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: MRO to Grease on Tue Nov 26 2024 03:49 pm

well this isn't the old days. you can get anybody as your fidonet feed. they try to push you to get ones in your area but you don't have to.
just have marc lewis feed you.

That's who I've been talking to. He's the helpful one.

yeah i know. you posted his node number.
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