I'd like to setup two separate point nodes for FTN style networks. So my point node for fsxNet would be 21:4/145.1 and fidonet would be 2:250/7.1. But how can I restrict the message areas allowed for each point node on echocfg? I guess it'd be the Echolist Keys but I don't actually know. A way I'd know it worked is when sending Areafix a message from 21:4/145.1 to my node at 21:4/145 with a %LIST, it'd only list the echomail areas for fsxNet.


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CyberNix wrote to All <=-

I'd like to setup two separate point nodes for FTN style networks. So
my point node for fsxNet would be 21:4/145.1 and fidonet would be 2:250/7.1. But how can I restrict the message areas allowed for each
point node on echocfg? I guess it'd be the Echolist Keys but I don't actually know.

That's correct. When defining the echolists, set a key. Specify the key
in the node config

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all
areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes
that.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to CyberNix <=-

CyberNix wrote to All <=-

I'd like to setup two separate point nodes for FTN style networks. So
my point node for fsxNet would be 21:4/145.1 and fidonet would be 2:250/7.1. But how can I restrict the message areas allowed for each
point node on echocfg? I guess it'd be the Echolist Keys but I don't actually know.

That's correct. When defining the echolists, set a key. Specify the
key in the node config

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all
areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes
that.

The fix (to prevent this) is to be sure the following line is in your sbbsecho.ini file:

AreaAddFromEcholistsOnly = true

(Obviously it must be set to "true", and the default is "false").

There are some other very useful tweak commands for this config file
that are worth looking at if you have echomail downlinks (including
point(s)). Have a look here:

https://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbsecho.ini



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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 28 2024 09:21 pm

AreaAddFromEcholistsOnly = true

There's an equivalent setting for this in echocfg->EchoMail->Allow Nodes to Add Areas from Area File, setting that to "No" sets the sbbsecho.ini setting above to true. Just an FYI.
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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 28 2024 09:21 pm

AreaAddFromEcholistsOnly = true

There's an equivalent setting for this in echocfg->EchoMail->Allow
Nodes to Add Areas from Area File, setting that to "No" sets the sbbsecho.ini setting above to true. Just an FYI.

Thanks for that, DM. I'm still in the habit of manually editing the
config files rather than using the "configurators". ;-)



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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: poindexter FORTRAN to CyberNix on Sat Sep 28 2024 08:25 am

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes that.

I seem to be experiencing this. I have defined 'fsx_gen' and 'FSX_GEN' keys for my fidonet point node but when I do a %LIST it gives me all the areas, not just FSX_GEN.

My areas.bbs has this line:

fsx_gen FSX_GEN 21:4/100

so I'm assuming that I'm defining the correct thing (the message sub-board 'FidoNet Area Tag') and that it doesn't axtually need to be the 'Newsgroup Name' or even the 'Internal Code'.


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CyberNix wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes that.

I seem to be experiencing this. I have defined 'fsx_gen' and 'FSX_GEN' keys for my fidonet point node but when I do a %LIST it gives me all
the areas, not just FSX_GEN.

My areas.bbs has this line:

fsx_gen FSX_GEN
21:4/100

so I'm assuming that I'm defining the correct thing (the message
sub-board 'FidoNet Area Tag') and that it doesn't axtually need to be
the 'Newsgroup Name' or even the 'Internal Code'.

Instead of assuming, you could read the information about Echolists on
the Wiki:

https://wiki.synchro.net/util:sbbsecho#echolist

(It is indeed the Internal Code).

Did you not see the other answer(s) to this issue that were posted in
this sub-board? One of them was from me.



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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: CyberNix to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 29 2024 10:37 pm

Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: poindexter FORTRAN to CyberNix on Sat Sep 28 2024 08:25 am

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes that.

I seem to be experiencing this. I have defined 'fsx_gen' and 'FSX_GEN' keys for my fidonet point node but when I do a %LIST it gives me all the areas, not just FSX_GEN.

My areas.bbs has this line:

fsx_gen FSX_GEN
21:4/100

so I'm assuming that I'm defining the correct thing (the message sub-board 'FidoNet Area Tag') and that it doesn't axtually need to be the 'Newsgroup Name' or even the 'Internal Code'.

No, echolist keys are assigned to specific echolists, in EchoCfg->Echolists ... ->Required Key. So if you had and echolist configured for FSXnet, for example, the key you would use to limit access would likely be named something like "FSXnet" (not FSX_GEN).
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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: Digital Man to CyberNix on Sun Sep 29 2024 09:24 pm

Okay got it, so you must have an Echolist defined if you wish to restrict downlink nodes to specific message groups.

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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: Gamgee to CyberNix on Sun Sep 29 2024 08:42 pm

Yep just seen, and that configuration option helped a lot :-)


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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: CyberNix to Digital Man on Mon Sep 30 2024 09:19 am

Okay got it, so you must have an Echolist defined if you wish to restrict downlink nodes to specific message groups.

Yes, if by "message groups" you mean FidoNet "echoes" (or echomail/conference mail "areas"). :-)
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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: Digital Man to CyberNix on Mon Sep 30 2024 03:47 am

Yes, if by "message groups" you mean FidoNet "echoes" (or echomail/conference mail "areas"). :-) --
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Yes, that's what I meant. Thx for help :D

Did you get my email btw?


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Re: Specific message groups for specific point nodes on FTN-style network
By: CyberNix to Digital Man on Mon Sep 30 2024 12:30 pm

Did you get my email btw?

I did, yes. :-)
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CyberNix wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

There is a quirk to it - every once in a while someone areafixes all areas and gets all areas regardless of keys. I don't know what causes that.

I seem to be experiencing this. I have defined 'fsx_gen' and 'FSX_GEN' keys for my fidonet point node but when I do a %LIST it gives me all
the areas, not just FSX_GEN.

My areas.bbs has this line:

fsx_gen FSX_GEN
21:4/100

so I'm assuming that I'm defining the correct thing (the message
sub-board 'FidoNet Area Tag') and that it doesn't axtually need to be
the 'Newsgroup Name' or even the 'Internal Code'.

You want to enter your area lists into your BBS config, and associate a
"key" with each list.

In Echocfg->echolist, create an entry for fsxnet, enter the FSX arealist, and under "Required
Key", enter a letter code.

In Echocfg->Linked Nodes, under EchoList Keys, enter the key you enter
in the previous step.

That should limit areafix requests from the specified node to *only*
areas in the FSX area list.



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