Hello,
I am trying to install a fresh sbbs in windows 11 x64. I have tried multiple installs, but when I try to view the statistics I get an error that says

!Error openeing e:\sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab

That file is not there. I have an old sbbs installation (XP) and it's there.
I installed the pre-req vc and the 16bit ntvdm.

Is there a way to generate this file / did I miss doing something?

Thanks,
Basis
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to All on Mon Apr 28 2025 07:01 am

Hello,
I am trying to install a fresh sbbs in windows 11 x64. I have tried multiple installs, but when I try to view the statistics I get an error that says

!Error openeing e:\sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab

Try to view statistics how?

That file is not there. I have an old sbbs installation (XP) and it's there.

When there's user activity, that file will be created.

I installed the pre-req vc and the 16bit ntvdm.

Is there a way to generate this file / did I miss doing something?

User activity: create an account, login, etc.

If this is an upgrade from a previous version, ctrl/csts.dab should be auto-converted to csts.tab.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Mon Apr 28 2025 11:47 am

When there's user activity, that file will be created.

I had created the initial sysop user account and guest account but the file was not created. I eneded up installing 3.19b on a clean install and copying the file from it to the 3.20d. That seemed to fix it.

If this is an upgrade from a previous version, ctrl/csts.dab should be auto-converted to csts.tab.

This was a fresh install.

Thanks for your help,
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Mon Apr 28 2025 12:46 pm

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Mon Apr 28 2025 11:47 am

When there's user activity, that file will be created.

I had created the initial sysop user account and guest account but the file was not created.

By default sysop logins aren't included in statistics:
SCFG->System->Toggle options->Include Sysop in Statistic (defaults to "No").

I eneded up installing 3.19b on a clean install and
copying the file from it to the 3.20d. That seemed to fix it.

Yeah, that shouldn't be necessary.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Mon Apr 28 2025 02:18 pm
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Mon Apr 28 2025 02:18 pm

SCFG->System->Toggle options->Include Sysop in Statistic (defaults to "No").

That's my setting

I eneded up installing 3.19b on a clean install and
copying the file from it to the 3.20d. That seemed to fix it.

Yeah, that shouldn't be necessary.

I have been testing a few things and the issue persists. I created multiple new user accounts and have them perform activity. The actual log files are being generated each day (validated by viewing from BBS - View - Today's (or other) logs. They just don't seem to be making it to the GUI summary log.

I've logged in and let any automated scripts run for multiple days.

When I am looking at the statistics page of the GUI it looks like a total sum of all the non-SysOp account activity - it never seems to "roll over." If I click on View Log button, it only shows 4/27 activity - the date of the new installation.

Again, what's odd is the file was not generated in 3.20d automatically. In the 3.19b it generated the file even though i did not create any non sysop (and non guest) user.

I've done a fresh install about 3 times to confirm this is the behavior. Be happy to test anything to see what I might be missing.

Thanks!
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 04:18 am

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Mon Apr 28 2025 02:18 pm

SCFG->System->Toggle options->Include Sysop in Statistic (defaults to "No").

That's my setting

So that means any users with a security level >= 90 won't be included in statistics.

I eneded up installing 3.19b on a clean install and
copying the file from it to the 3.20d. That seemed to fix it.

Yeah, that shouldn't be necessary.

I have been testing a few things and the issue persists. I created multiple new user accounts and have them perform activity. The actual log files are being generated each day (validated by viewing from BBS - View - Today's (or other) logs. They just don't seem to be making it to the GUI summary log.

What version of "the GUI" are you running? If you look at the ctrl/csts.tab file (it's a plain text file), what do you see?

I've logged in and let any automated scripts run for multiple days.

When I am looking at the statistics page of the GUI it looks like a total sum of all the non-SysOp account activity - it never seems to "roll over." If I click on View Log button, it only shows 4/27 activity - the date of the new installation.

Again, what's odd is the file was not generated in 3.20d automatically. In the 3.19b it generated the file even though i did not create any non sysop (and non guest) user.

What's even more odd is that v3.19 doesn't even use/know about that file (csts.tab), so that's actually impossible. v3.19 crated/used the file ctrl/csts.dab (binary, so don't try to view it). It's v3.20 where the file csts.tab fkile was introduced and is auto-upgraded from csts.dab.

I've done a fresh install about 3 times to confirm this is the behavior. Be happy to test anything to see what I might be missing.

Fresh install of what version? There seems to be some confusion about v3.19 versus v3.20 and what files are used by what.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 04:18 am

I've done a fresh install about 3 times to confirm this is the behavior. Be happy to test anything to see what I might be missing.

I just did a fresh install of Synchronet for Windows v3.20d (the latest release) and I can confirm this issue: the ctrl/csts.tab file is not created. I can take it from here and get this resolved. Thanks for the bug report!
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 10:24 am

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 04:18 am

I've done a fresh install about 3 times to confirm this is the behavior. Be happy to test anything to see what I might be missing.

I just did a fresh install of Synchronet for Windows v3.20d (the latest release) and I can confirm this issue: the ctrl/csts.tab file is not created. I can take it from here and get this resolved. Thanks for the bug report!

The csts.dab file actually won't be created/updated until the statistics "roll-over" to a new date. But since the dsts.ini date value appears to be stuck on "Never" in a new install of v3.20, that doesn't look like that'll ever happen. You can confirm this by waiting a day after installing and then logging in and you'll likely never see the "New Day" log message. So daily events won't run and the csts.tab files (there's actually one in each node directory too), won't get created or updated.

This bug appears to have been created 5 months ago in commit https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/2064f3a4f71c6656693
but I'm still investigating.

If this is in fact the issue, the work around would be to just edit the various dsts.ini files (in ctrl and each node directory) and set the "Date" field to the current date, e.g.
Date=May 1 2025

Once this is done, new day rollover should happen at/around midnight and the csts.tab files should get created.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 10:53 am

I just did a fresh install of Synchronet for Windows v3.20d (the latest
release) and I can confirm this issue: the ctrl/csts.tab file is not created. I can take it from here and get this resolved. Thanks for the bu
report!

Ok at least I'm not going (that) crazy. Thanks for confirming.

Is there any type of command I can run to generate it?

Thanks!
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 12:00 pm

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 10:53 am

I just did a fresh install of Synchronet for Windows v3.20d (the latest
release) and I can confirm this issue: the ctrl/csts.tab file is not created. I can take it from here and get this resolved. Thanks for the bu
report!

Ok at least I'm not going (that) crazy. Thanks for confirming.

Is there any type of command I can run to generate it?

You can edit the "Date" field in ctrl/dsts.ini file(s) to reflect a date (any date in the past or the current dat) - that should do it.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 12:59 pm

You can edit the "Date" field in ctrl/dsts.ini file(s) to reflect a date (an

Hopefully last question for a while - could you give me a sample text format? (ie: Date=5/1/2025) - that didn't work. Not sure if I should make it look like LastWrite or PrevLast Write.

Thanks again.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 02:06 pm

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 12:59 pm

You can edit the "Date" field in ctrl/dsts.ini file(s) to reflect a date (an

Hopefully last question for a while - could you give me a sample text format? (ie: Date=5/1/2025) - that didn't work. Not sure if I should make it look like LastWrite or PrevLast Write.

I posted an example earlier today:

If this is in fact the issue, the work around would be to just edit the various dsts.ini files (in ctrl and each node directory) and set the "Date" > field to the current date, e.g. Date=May 1 2025

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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 02:33 pm

Hopefully last question for a while - could you give me a sample text format? (ie: Date=5/1/2025) - that didn't work. Not sure if I should make it look like LastWrite or PrevLast Write.

I posted an example earlier today:

If this is in fact the issue, the work around would be to just edit the various dsts.ini files (in ctrl and each node directory) and set the "Date"

field to the current date, e.g. Date=May 1 2025

Date=5/1/2025 should've worked as well.
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 04:05 pm

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 02:33 pm

Hopefully last question for a while - could you give me a sample text format? (ie: Date=5/1/2025) - that didn't work. Not sure if I should make it look like LastWrite or PrevLast Write.

I posted an example earlier today:

If this is in fact the issue, the work around would be to just edit the various dsts.ini files (in ctrl and each node directory) and set the "Date"

field to the current date, e.g. Date=May 1 2025

Date=5/1/2025 should've worked as well.

How I tested it: I put "Date=4/1/2025" in the root section of ctrl/dsts.ini and Synchronet event thread promptly recognized it as a new day:
5/1 04:24:07p BBS Events New Day and Week and Month - Prev: Tue Apr 01 2025 12:00 am
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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 04:25 pm

Date=5/1/2025 should've worked as well.

How I tested it: I put "Date=4/1/2025" in the root section of ctrl/dsts.ini
5/1 04:24:07p BBS Events New Day and Week and Month - Prev: Tue Apr 01 2

Got it. 5/1/2025 didn't seem to work, but 4/30/2025 did (after closing and re-openeing the control panel). I'll see if it updates tomorrow correctly.

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Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Basis to Digital Man on Thu May 01 2025 04:28 pm

Re: New Install - no \sbbs\ctrl\csts.tab
By: Digital Man to Basis on Thu May 01 2025 04:25 pm

Date=5/1/2025 should've worked as well.

How I tested it: I put "Date=4/1/2025" in the root section of ctrl/dsts.ini
5/1 04:24:07p BBS Events New Day and Week and Month - Prev: Tue Apr 01 2

Got it. 5/1/2025 didn't seem to work, but 4/30/2025 did (after closing and re-openeing the control panel). I'll see if it updates tomorrow correctly.

If 5/1/2025 didn't work, the problem was the date, not the format. It must be a different date from the last time the stats were rolled over (from dsts.ini to csts.tab). When going from "Never" to today's date (e.g. "5/1/2025" or "May 1 2025") - that worked for me as well.
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