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After all this tariff talk, all I see is prices going down. The gas pricesre
dropping, and now I can get eggs for $4.99 a dozen. Not bad compared to the weeks of Biden's needless chicken massacre.
Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-
After all this tariff talk, all I see is prices going down. The gas
prices are dropping, and now I can get eggs for $4.99 a dozen. Not bad compared to the weeks of Biden's needless chicken massacre.
Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
After all this tariff talk, all I see is prices going down. The gas prices
re
dropping, and now I can get eggs for $4.99 a dozen. Not bad compared to the weeks of Biden's needless chicken massacre.
Gas prices here were going down before Biden left office.
After all this tariff talk, all I see is prices going down. The gas prices are dropping, and now I can get eggs for $4.99 a dozen. Not ba compared to the weeks of Biden's needless chicken massacre.
And the fact that some segment of the population believes un-supported crap like this is how we got in this mess in the first place.
After all this tariff talk, all I see is prices going down. The gas prices ar>ropping, and now I can get eggs for $4.99 a dozen. Not bad compared to the we
Our gas prices are supposed to drop a fair bit in Canada as the new
Prime Minister drops the Carbon tax but converting gallons and dollars
we've been paying about $4.60 a US gallon in US dollars which I think
is about 50% higher than you guys pay.. The carbon tax off gas will
drop that to closer to $4 here.
I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here. The eggs I
got recently cost me about $3.90, and have been at that level for
many months.. and I suppose you have to make allowances for the fact
that our dollar is only about 70 cents US at the moment so $3.90
becomes about $2.75..
Milk took a big jump a while back. Our 4 Litre bags are almost
exactly the same as an American gallon. I haven't seen the price
of milk there lately but our price is about $6.60, but not too
long back it was about $4.99 or less..
If accurate, looking online it appears the average US price per gallon
of milk is about $3.20 and our $6.60 allowing for the dollar exchange
becomes $4.62 or so, still a lot higher..
I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here. The eggs I
got recently cost me about $3.90, and have been at that level for
many months.. and I suppose you have to make allowances for the fact
that our dollar is only about 70 cents US at the moment so $3.90
becomes about $2.75..
If accurate, looking online it appears the average US price per gallon
of milk is about $3.20 and our $6.60 allowing for the dollar exchange becomes $4.62 or so, still a lot higher..
I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here. The eggs I
got recently cost me about $3.90, and have been at that level for
many months.. and I suppose you have to make allowances for the fact that our dollar is only about 70 cents US at the moment so $3.90
becomes about $2.75..
Did your government, or farmers, do a better job of containing it?
Rob Mccart wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
Our gas prices are supposed to drop a fair bit in Canada as the new
Prime Minister drops the Carbon tax but converting gallons and dollars we've been paying about $4.60 a US gallon in US dollars which I think
is about 50% higher than you guys pay.. The carbon tax off gas will
drop that to closer to $4 here.
I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here. The eggs I
got recently cost me about $3.90, and have been at that level for
many months.. and I suppose you have to make allowances for the fact
that our dollar is only about 70 cents US at the moment so $3.90
becomes about $2.75..
Milk took a big jump a while back. Our 4 Litre bags are almost
exactly the same as an American gallon. I haven't seen the price
of milk there lately but our price is about $6.60, but not too
long back it was about $4.99 or less..
If accurate, looking online it appears the average US price per gallon
of milk is about $3.20 and our $6.60 allowing for the dollar exchange becomes $4.62 or so, still a lot higher..
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But what you just said is an eye-opener. There can't be a "bird flu epidemic" just in the USA and not in neighboring countries; it's impossible becauseird
travel all over the USA and Canada all the time. If we had a "bird flu epidemic" that makes it "dangerous to step outside your door," then Canada would be experiencing it also.
Rob mentioned how there are ways that Canadian chicken farms are run, and that the USA likely runs them differently. I am not sure but I suspect
he means how many egg farms keep the hens close together in small cages
in order to maximize the number of hens in a particular space.
>> Prime Minister drops the Carbon tax but converting gallons and dollarsOur gas prices are supposed to drop a fair bit in Canada as the new
Based on what I paid Friday, $4.60 USD is about 43% more expensive there,>so not too far off.
>> whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here.I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or
Did your government, or farmers, do a better job of containing it?
>> of milk is about $3.20 and our $6.60 allowing for the dollar exchangeIf accurate, looking online it appears the average US price per gallon
The per gallon price here in my area was less than that, last I checked, so>your area is quite a bit higher.
I remember hearing about egg prices in the USA due to the bird flu or whatever it was, but it didn't seem to change much here.> convince us that "there's a bird flu epidemic" and that "this is why egg pri
That's interesting. Here in the states the media and the Democrats are trying
But what you just said is an eye-opener. There can't be a "bird flu epidemic">st in the USA and not in neighboring countries; it's impossible because birds
That's about right, but the price varies in different regions. Be prepared fo>he day when the media declares that "birds from the USA have flown into Canad
Our gas prices are supposed to drop a fair bit in Canada as the new> gas than the rest of the US, and fewer refineries make it than the
Prime Minister drops the Carbon tax but converting gallons and dollars we've been paying about $4.60 a US gallon in US dollars which I think
is about 50% higher than you guys pay.. The carbon tax off gas will
drop that to closer to $4 here.
Depends on where you are in the US. California requires cleaner-burning
It's the only industry I know of where having an accident that's your> fault results in higher profits for the company. Have a refinery
My local egg supplier has raised prices 10 cents or so - they're raised>locally and haven't been affected by cullings. I've read stories
ndRob mentioned how there are ways that Canadian chicken farms are run,
that the USA likely runs them differently. I am not sure but I suspect he means how many egg farms keep the hens close together in small cages in order to maximize the number of hens in a particular space.
And to keep sick migratory birds out?
That might work, but if that's really necessary, then we ought to see all the chicken farmers here doing that now, in response to the "bird flu."
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
That's interesting. Here in the states the media and the Democrats are trying to convince us that "there's a bird flu epidemic" and that "this
is why egg prices are soaring."
But what you just said is an eye-opener. There can't be a "bird flu epidemic" just in the USA and not in neighboring countries; it's impossible because birds travel all over the USA and Canada all the
time. If we had a "bird flu epidemic" that makes it "dangerous to step outside your door," then Canada would be experiencing it also.
Now the missing part of this puzzle is finding out who made all the
money off these ridiculous egg prices.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
We've been hustled by the media, the grocery stores, and the Biden administration (once again!)
But what you just said is an eye-opener. There can't be a "bird flu epidemic" just in the USA and not in neighboring countries; it's impossible because birds travel all over the USA and Canada all the time. If we had a "bird flu epidemic" that makes it "dangerous to ste outside your door," then Canada would be experiencing it also.
Egg-laying industrial farmed chickens don't fly all over the world, and their living conditions typically favor infectious disease spread. I'm surprised I would have to explain this to you.
Now the missing part of this puzzle is finding out who made all the money off these ridiculous egg prices.
Egg Companies? Big Egg has done similar supply manipulation tricks in
the past.
And to keep sick migratory birds out?
That might work, but if that's really necessary, then we ought to see al chicken farmers here doing that now, in response to the "bird flu."
No, that is the way the USA does it which means the birds are kept
cramped up together where they are *more* likely to spread disease
amongst themselves.
As far as disease goes, it is better NOT to keep them cramped up together in large groups of small cages.
Based on what I paid Friday, $4.60 USD is about 43% more expensive
there,
so not too far off.
Yes, there is a fair bit of Carbon tax and sales tax on gas here
which doesn't help but I think, even without those, it would still
be cheaper there.
I have not heard them say it makes it dangerous to step ouside. I have>heard that it is dangerous to hang around flocks of birds, but not many
Rob mentioned how there are ways that Canadian chicken farms are run, and>that the USA likely runs them differently. I am not sure but I suspect he
That, in turn, makes the spread of disease more likely. Rob will have to>confirm, but I suspect in Canada they don't do that which is why they
I get what you guys are saying about "chickens live in closer quarters in the USA," but I don't get how they got infected in the first place. I thought it was from migratory birds. Remember the story about "the man who died fromird
blue had birds in his backyard?"
Egg Companies? Big Egg has done similar supply manipulation tricks in the past.
Ok, but that contradicts your expert knowledge of egg farming and the notion that "farmed chickens living conditions favor infectious disease spread."
Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Egg Companies? Big Egg has done similar supply manipulation tricks in
the past.
Ok, but that contradicts your expert knowledge of egg farming and the notion that "farmed chickens living conditions favor infectious disease spread."
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
Yes, so it seems.. You'd think they would keep the price of milk low
for the health of kids. It doesn't seem good that you can buy soft
drinks for 1/3 the cost of milk.
The chickens must have had some contact with migratory birds. If you've ever been on a farm, migratory birds are all around, even in the barns.
I would assume that they can get into the barns at the egg farms, too.
Once a "close quarters" chicken gets the flu, all of the other chickens
in that area could have it.
Ok, but that contradicts your expert knowledge of egg farming and the no that "farmed chickens living conditions favor infectious disease spread.
Both can be true, it is not an "either-or" situation in this case.
Ok, but that contradicts your expert knowledge of egg farming and the notion that "farmed chickens living conditions favor infectious disea spread."
Firstly, it doesn't take "expert knowledge" to understand the issues
with chicken farming, nor did I claim to be an expert.
>> chicken farmers here doing that now, in response to the "bird flu."That might work, but if that's really necessary, then we ought to see all t
No, that is the way the USA does it which means the birds are kept cramped>up together where they are *more* likely to spread disease amongst
As far as disease goes, it is better NOT to keep them cramped up together>in large groups of small cages.
>1, due to our government removing the Carbon Tax at theBased on what I paid Friday, $4.60 USD is about 43% more expensive
there, so not too far off.
Yes, there is a fair bit of Carbon tax and sales tax on gas here
which doesn't help but I think, even without those, it would still
be cheaper there.
Fuel prices are slated to drop 20cents on the litre here on Apr
It's currently 147.9 per L in my area of Ontario right now.
Once a "close quarters" chicken gets the flu, all of the other chickens in that area could have it.
I just don't buy the "close quarters" story. All chickens live in close quarters. I don't believe that there's a farmer who gives each chicken their own apartment, not even in Canada. A sneeze can travel a long distance, way further than the space that any chicken has to herself.
I just don't buy the "close quarters" story. All chickens live in close quarters. I don't believe that there's a farmer who gives each chicken t own apartment, not even in Canada. A sneeze can travel a long distance, further than the space that any chicken has to herself.
No, not like they do at the big farms here. Much like the Chinese wet markets, these chickens are kept in small cages right next to each other. "Free range" chickens, while they are not always 6 feet apart, are not kept caged up close to each other for long periods.
The other problem I have heard mentioned is that there is not really any genetic diversity in the US chicken flock. They are all bread for
maximum egg laying. As such, other genetic qualities that might make
them more resistant to certain diseases may not exist.
This all said, after several trips to the grocery over the past month, I do believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I
am not able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O They only have the bite-sized ones, and the only regular sized ones are carmel!
I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
It could be a mixed bag.. If the birds are all kept in small cages
inside of a barn then maybe the wild birds wouldn't get in there where they might be more vulnerable outside..
You'd think they would keep the price of milk low> RM> for the health of kids. It doesn't seem good that you can buy soft
School lunches and child nutrition are a no-brainer, or you'd think.>It's an investment into our country - every dollar in SNAP funding adds
Not to mention the benefits to the country as a whole having children>well-nourished during their formative years and the effect on their
Instead, we get to hear wealthy politicians blaming poor parents as an>excuse to cut funding. I guess an ignorant populace is easier to
There's a lot of statistical information involved with all of this. Statistically the chickens in Canada are less cramped, statistically they're less likely to spread a virus, and statistically there's less migratory birds in Canada, but that's too many statistics to swallow. But despite all these statistics, it's still statistically impossible for bird flu to not exist in Canada while it's "rampantly infecting American chickens."
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
It seems your people there want to cut about $150 Billion that goes
to SNAP as part of the $1.5 to $2 TRILLION government spending cuts
that Trump wants.
>> quarters. I don't believe that there's a farmer who gives each chicken theiI just don't buy the "close quarters" story. All chickens live in close
No, not like they do at the big farms here. Much like the Chinese wet>markets, these chickens are kept in small cages right next to each other.
This all said, after several trips to the grocery over the past month, I do>believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I am not
I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D
There's a lot of statistical information involved with all of this. Statistic>y the chickens in Canada are less cramped, statistically they're less likely
Mitch McConnell - held up supreme court nominations then rammed through
Amy Coney Barrett while RBG was still lying in state and states already started voting.
oThis all said, after several trips to the grocery over the past month, I
>believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I amot
>able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O They
>only have the bite-sized ones, and the only regular sized ones are carmel!
I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D
That's probably our Chickens getting back at Trump... B)
That said, it could well be our North/South birds that do pick
up avian flu and bring the odd case back to Canada. We do have
some of it here but not in the numbers you appear to get there.
I say that like it's nothing up here.. We had one egg farmer in
British Columbia who had to kill 30,000 hens due to that, and our
totals are edging into the millions, but they say that down there
you've lost at least 20 million hens to it so maybe the numbers
are not so much a result of climate, as I was thinking, but just
how many farms there are that can be hit with it..
It could be a mixed bag.. If the birds are all kept in small cages>sick. It's also unsanitary. And there is the real "bird flu".
inside of a barn then maybe the wild birds wouldn't get in there where
they might be more vulnerable outside..
It's the places where the small cages, cramped conditions where chickens get
Rob Mccart wrote to DR. WHAT <=-
crops or both and many of them had chickens for eggs and meat but they were all free range kept fenced in but loose outside so I never saw
the 'factory' type egg producing farms..
Rob Mccart wrote to Dr. What <=-
Yes, and not pleasant for the chickens at the best of times. I thought that type of caging was illegal in Canada as cruel but either something changed or I had just never seen it where I lived.
believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I am>not able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O
I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D
That's probably our Chickens getting back at Trump... B)
Silly Canadian. Cadbury eggs come from the Easter Bunny. :D
We had one egg farmer in> only thing that's for sure is the price of the eggs was at about $10 per doz
British Columbia who had to kill 30,000 hens due to that, and our
totals are edging into the millions, but they say that down there
you've lost at least 20 million hens to it
The ifs are endless, and so are the manipulative opportunities of the media.
There are heartbreaking documentaries about factory egg farms. I> determined I'd only buy cage free eggs, and I live close to an egg farm
They have an egg "vending machine" at the farm, $4 for 18 eggs. I> haven't seen it, but I assume there's someone behind the facade taking
Yes, and not pleasant for the chickens at the best of times. I thought>And it's usually in a very large, nondescript building.
that type of caging was illegal in Canada as cruel but either something changed or I had just never seen it where I lived.
It's usually in a rural area - so most people won't pass by.
We have a large egg producing "factory" on our way to our dance lesson, but t>only way we know it's an "egg factory" is that it caught fire a few years bac