• My Error

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Sun May 11 12:24:26 2025
    This is how the Z Man made his money, net-worth over $500,000.00. He did not scam the US tax payers... He actually worked for it.

    Z before he became President of Ukraine

    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Sun May 11 17:17:33 2025
    Hello IB!

    Sunday May 11 2025 12:24, you wrote to All:

    Z before he became President of Ukraine https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I
    This video is a deepfake. The underlying footage is not of President Zelenskiy but originates from a TikTok clip by dancer Vusal Mekhtiyev (username: @vusaaal). Multiple fact-checking organizations have debunked the video as synthetic media and traced the original to this unrelated dancer's January 2022 TikTok posts.

    https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-fake-zelenskyy-belly-dance-video-raises-fears-of-ai-disinfo/a-66930879

    So fuck you JOE. Putin's bootlicker.

    Alex

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sun May 11 15:25:36 2025
    This is how the Z Man made his money, net-worth over $500,000.00. He

    He's worth $500,000,000.00 a 1/2 a billion dollars for that dance

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Sun May 11 15:29:25 2025
    On 11 May 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    This video is a deepfake. The underlying footage is not of President Zelenskiy but originates from a TikTok clip by dancer Vusal Mekhtiyev (username: @vusaaal). Multiple fact-checking organizations have debunked the video as synthetic media and traced the original to this unrelated dancer's January 2022 TikTok posts.


    He's worth $500,000,000.00 and did nothing much to earn it...

    Looks like Russia and Ukraine are back to talking maybe your favorite war will be over soon.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Sun May 11 19:08:18 2025
    Hello IB!

    Sunday May 11 2025 15:29, you wrote to me:

    Looks like Russia and Ukraine are back to talking maybe your favorite
    war will be over soon.
    It won't be over until Putin is dead.


    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Sun May 11 19:15:46 2025
    Hello IB!

    Sunday May 11 2025 15:29, you wrote to me:

    He's worth $500,000,000.00 and did nothing much to earn it...
    Those are made up numbers, no facts. Don't be a bullshit artist.

    Alex

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sun May 11 16:48:08 2025
    This is how the Z Man made his money, net-worth over $500,000.00. He
    did not scam the US tax payers... He actually worked for it.

    Z before he became President of Ukraine

    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I

    I already could barely stand that guy. Now this. :(

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Aaron Thomas on Sun May 11 20:12:15 2025
    Hello Aaron!

    Sunday May 11 2025 16:48, you wrote to IB Joe:

    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I
    I already could barely stand that guy. Now this. :(
    Idiot, this is a deepfake video. Google it up.

    Alex

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Mon May 12 04:31:10 2025
    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I
    I already could barely stand that guy. Now this. :(
    Idiot, this is a deepfake video. Google it up.

    The video has "successfully" made me dislike Zelenski even more than I already did, whether it's real or not.

    BTW: People who "Google" for the truth are the real idiots.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Mon May 12 09:38:21 2025
    On 11 May 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    It won't be over until Putin is dead.


    Why don't you talk smack about the Biden Administration for starting it.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALEX GALIYEV on Mon May 12 11:08:00 2025
    Z before he became President of Ukraine https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I
    This video is a deepfake. The underlying footage is not of President
    elenskiy
    but originates from a TikTok clip by dancer Vusal Mekhtiyev (username: @vusaaal). Multiple fact-checking organizations have debunked the video as synthetic media and traced the original to this unrelated dancer's January
    02
    TikTok posts.

    Joe falls hard for fake news as evidence so long as it makes Trump look good.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon May 12 11:08:00 2025
    He's worth $500,000,000.00 a 1/2 a billion dollars for that dance

    logicallyfacts.com and factcheck.org have both found this claim of his high
    net worth to be false. So have several other outlets.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon May 12 10:53:00 2025
    The video has "successfully" made me dislike Zelenski even more than I
    lready
    did, whether it's real or not.

    BTW: People who "Google" for the truth are the real idiots.

    As opposed to believing whatever they are told just as long as it props up their own beliefs?

    Not researching what you are spoon-fed is what is idiotic.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Mon May 12 09:45:26 2025
    On 11 May 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    Those are made up numbers, no facts. Don't be a bullshit artist.


    Why is everything fake or made up when it ups Z in a bad light.

    Forbes has it around 3 Billion... Offshore accounts, mansions and yachts...

    Maybe Putin get get a deal struck and the Ukrainian people can vote and use that as a referendum towards his policies.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Mon May 12 09:47:01 2025
    On 11 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...



    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I

    I already could barely stand that guy. Now this. :(


    No wonder millions have died... This is the guy running the show!! HAHAHA

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon May 12 13:50:17 2025
    BTW: People who "Google" for the truth are the real idiots.

    As opposed to believing whatever they are told just as long as it props
    up their own beliefs?

    Who's doing that?

    Not researching what you are spoon-fed is what is idiotic.

    Google provided the video (Aren't they the owners of Youtube?)

    Do you consider Google and/or internet research to be "research?" When I went to college none of the instructors accepted anything on the internet as a source. I still don't, unless it pertains to internet stuff (i.e. "no more Abrigo on the news websites.")

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon May 12 19:26:35 2025
    On 12 May 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

    logicallyfacts.com and factcheck.org have both found this claim of his high net worth to be false. So have several other outlets.


    Factcheck.org... Was that not the one Facebook was using and has dropped because they are not reliable??

    I think so!!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue May 13 07:16:03 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    BTW: People who "Google" for the truth are the real idiots.

    Especially with the lawsuits against Google for "cooking" the search results to be what they want.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue May 13 05:42:10 2025
    BTW: People who "Google" for the truth are the real idiots.

    Especially with the lawsuits against Google for "cooking" the search results to be what they want.

    It's a bad habit in general. I don't blame Google for it though. That would be like trying to blame the volcano insurance agent for selling Alex a policy.

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  • From Don Vally@1:135/363 to IB JOE on Tue May 13 08:45:20 2025
    Quoting Ib Joe to Aaron Thomas <=-

    On 11 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...



    https://youtu.be/jcc35jPo8Ck?si=dTT31hNH6tZBAM7I

    I already could barely stand that guy. Now this. :(


    No wonder millions have died... This is the guy running the show!!
    HAHAHA

    You know that stuff is likely edited or autochopped. Sometimes you guys
    are out of control. :)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Don Vally on Tue May 13 07:39:04 2025
    On 13 May 2025, Don Vally said the following...


    You know that stuff is likely edited or autochopped. Sometimes you guys
    are out of control. :)


    No we're not... He was a comedian before running a country and pushing for WWIII.

    It's his resume, he's got better moved than Trump.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue May 13 10:53:00 2025
    Not researching what you are spoon-fed is what is idiotic.

    Google provided the video (Aren't they the owners of Youtube?)

    Do you consider Google and/or internet research to be "research?" When I went to college none of the instructors accepted anything on the internet as a source. I still don't, unless it pertains to internet stuff (i.e. "no more Abrigo on the news websites.")

    There is a difference between:

    - an internet post by a "user" (like something posted on a web board or
    social media)
    - something posted on Wikipedia (where anyone can edit it)
    - something some talking head posts on youtube or a blogging site
    - news outlets that post their articles online as well as their print media.

    If you rule out *everything* that is "on the internet," that rules out all
    news media as most all major print and TV outlets also post there.

    So where do you find out anything recent? Encyclopedias are usually behind
    at least a year, so certainly not there.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Tue May 13 10:02:00 2025
    logicallyfacts.com and factcheck.org have both found this claim of his high net worth to be false. So have several other outlets.

    Factcheck.org... Was that not the one Facebook was using and has dropped because they are not reliable??

    I think so!!

    That maybe only explains one of them. There are no reliable sources for
    the information you keep spouting.

    OTOH, I can find plenty of reliable sources reporting about the $400
    million bribe... err, jet... that Trump is receiving from Qatar. Real
    funny how the same folks who'd be crapping themselves if Biden did it
    aren't saying "boo" about Trump accepting it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Tue May 13 10:05:00 2025
    It won't be over until Putin is dead.

    Why don't you talk smack about the Biden Administration for starting it.

    Biden didn't invade Ukraine. Putin did.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Tue May 13 11:25:33 2025
    There is a difference between:

    - an internet post by a "user" (like something posted on a web board or social media)
    - something posted on Wikipedia (where anyone can edit it)
    - something some talking head posts on youtube or a blogging site
    - news outlets that post their articles online as well as their print media.

    I honestly don't see the difference between some guy on X and some guy who has "reporter" as his job title and works for a media company.

    I'll admit that there is a little difference between the above 2 options and an official website for a government agency, but still, not that much difference. Biden's WH website had tons of misinformation on it (I still have the screenshots.)

    So where do you find out anything recent? Encyclopedias are usually behind at least a year, so certainly not there.

    I was driving up my dad's street the other day and I noticed that a house was torn down. That's factual news that I can share with people. My kid's homework assignment was to write a paper about "how immigrants help people." That's propaganda that I can complain about. OTOH: There's a video circulating of some Democrats allegedly causing a disturbance outside an ICE facility. I didn't see the whole video, so I can't say with confidence that they did anything wrong (other than being Democrats.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Tue May 13 11:29:01 2025
    OTOH, I can find plenty of reliable sources reporting about the $400 million bribe... err, jet... that Trump is receiving from Qatar. Real

    How long does it take to receive a jet? There's no news source that says that he received it.

    Also just want to point out: An aircraft that serves the purpose of being used as AF1 is a gift to the federal government, and a gift that saves taxpayers $400 million dollars is a gift to the taxpayers.

    Let me know when you find out what dirty awful thing Trump is gonna do in exchange for the gift that hasn't been gifted yet.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 14 07:29:49 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    It's a bad habit in general. I don't blame Google for it though. That would be like trying to blame the volcano insurance agent for selling
    Alex a policy.

    Google should be treated as Wikipedia used to be treated by professors (before it became Woke): It's a good point to start your search into a topic, but it's not to be treated as a good source of information.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed May 14 06:27:34 2025
    It's a bad habit in general. I don't blame Google for it though. That would be like trying to blame the volcano insurance agent for selling Alex a policy.

    Google should be treated as Wikipedia used to be treated by professors (before it became Woke): It's a good point to start your search into a topic, but it's not to be treated as a good source of information.

    Yea, not even the news media uses Google (or any other websites) as sources. (Not that I've seen.)

    It wouldn't sound as believable as "According to a survey from Quinnipiac University.." Words like "Quinnipiac" and "university" carry more weight than "Google search" even for the sheepiest of sheeple.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed May 14 08:45:00 2025
    - an internet post by a "user" (like something posted on a web board or social media)
    - something posted on Wikipedia (where anyone can edit it)
    - something some talking head posts on youtube or a blogging site
    - news outlets that post their articles online as well as their print media.

    I honestly don't see the difference between some guy on X and some guy who has
    "reporter" as his job title and works for a media company.

    Some "reporter," and the company they work for, have the threat of slander and liable hanging over what they print. They have certain legal obligations. Whether or not someone holds them to them at all times might be a different question, but they do have them.

    Some guy on X has no such legal obligations, and neither does X. You could
    go out right now and post some claim about Biden being a "lizard person"
    and, aside from possibly being flamed for it, there are no reprocussions.

    I'll admit that there is a little difference between the above 2 options and a
    official website for a government agency, but still, not that much difference.
    Biden's WH website had tons of misinformation on it (I still have the screenshots.)

    So does Trump's.

    So where do you find out anything recent? Encyclopedias are usually behind at least a year, so certainly not there.

    I was driving up my dad's street the other day and I noticed that a house was torn down. That's factual news that I can share with people. My kid's homework
    assignment was to write a paper about "how immigrants help people." That's propaganda that I can complain about. OTOH: There's a video circulating of som
    Democrats allegedly causing a disturbance outside an ICE facility. I didn't se
    the whole video, so I can't say with confidence that they did anything wrong (other than being Democrats.)

    For someone who only believes in what they see, you:

    (1) seem to find a lot of time to post opinions on FIDO about things you
    have never personally witnessed
    (2) have religious beliefs that would seem to contradict being able to "see things" in person.

    While posts from the Internet might not be good source material per a
    college professor, "cause I saw/didn't see it" isn't going to pass muster as a legit research reference, either.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed May 14 08:47:00 2025
    OTOH, I can find plenty of reliable sources reporting about the $400 million bribe... err, jet... that Trump is receiving from Qatar. Real

    How long does it take to receive a jet? There's no news source that says that he received it.

    They -- the Trump administration and Qatar -- are still mulling over the details... I am guessing what deal they will get in return for the gift.

    Also just want to point out: An aircraft that serves the purpose of being used
    as AF1 is a gift to the federal government, and a gift that saves taxpayers $400 million dollars is a gift to the taxpayers.

    After he is done with it, it is going to his "Presidential Library," which Trump apparently expects will either be at, or will include, an airport. It is not becoming part of the fleet.

    OTOH, when he left office, Grover Cleveland left the Statue of Liberty (a gift from France) for all Americans to see. He didn't take it with him.

    There is a difference between a gift to America and a gift to the President.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed May 14 08:06:33 2025

    On 13 May 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

    That maybe only explains one of them. There are no reliable sources for the information you keep spouting.


    You use people as a source that say Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation... Fact-checkers are fake and bias


    OTOH, I can find plenty of reliable sources reporting about the $400 million bribe... err, jet... that Trump is receiving from Qatar. Real funny how the same folks who'd be crapping themselves if Biden did it aren't saying "boo" about Trump accepting it.


    Looks like we'll have to send Statue of Liberty back... Countries can't be sending gifts and all.

    There is a HUGE difference between your party and Trump. Trump says thank you for the gift... We'll give it to the military and "The People" will not have to spend that money and they'll get the benefit of the gift.

    The people you support setup a foundation where you can send them money directly... OR they get their Crack addict children jobs they are not qualified for or get them to sell their art for money that clearly the art is to worth.

    I think by the end of this 4 years you'll be wearing a MAGA hat.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed May 14 08:07:48 2025
    On 13 May 2025, Mike Powell said the following...


    Biden didn't invade Ukraine. Putin did.


    Biden pushed the buttons... Biden, well Kamala, was instrumental in the war starting.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Aaron Thomas on Wed May 14 06:53:43 2025
    Am 13 May 25 11:29:01 schrob Aaron Thomas an Mike Powell zum Thema
    <Re: My Error>

    Also just want to point out: An aircraft that serves the purpose of
    being used as AF1 is a gift to the federal government, and a gift that saves taxpayers $400 million dollars is a gift to the taxpayers.

    How much ist that jet per tax payer, 2 Dollars?
    And Qatar ist just very kind and does not have anything else in mind? Remember the Greek getting a wooden horse as a gift by the Trojans? Such a nice horse. And they got it for free. It was amazing. Maybe Mossad will also offer free pagers for all govermment officals.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed May 14 12:39:36 2025
    "reporter" as his job title and works for a media company.

    Some "reporter," and the company they work for, have the threat of
    slander and liable hanging over what they print. They have certain
    legal obligations. Whether or not someone holds them to them at all
    times might be a different question, but they do have them.

    That mattered when Dan Rather was active, but not so much anymore. ABC and CBS messed with Trump and he's a billionaire, so it didn't work out very good for them, but they continue to lie about all kinds of stuff nobody's coming after them and they ain't scared.

    For someone who only believes in what they see, you:

    (1) seem to find a lot of time to post opinions on FIDO about things you have never personally witnessed

    I don't blame anyone for having an opinion about stuff they heard about but didn't witness, but they shouldn't believe it wholeheartedly.

    (2) have religious beliefs that would seem to contradict being able to "see things" in person.

    Which ones? I'm not religious; I'm spiritual.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed May 14 12:45:52 2025
    After he is done with it, it is going to his "Presidential Library,"
    which Trump apparently expects will either be at, or will include, an airport. It is not becoming part of the fleet.

    If Trump were to negotiate a bribe, don't you think he would want his money in something more liquid than a $400 million dollar aircraft?

    Let's keep an eye on Trump to make sure he doesn't sell it for crack.

    There is a difference between a gift to America and a gift to the President.

    I'd give him a gift if I knew what he likes and if I could afford it. (I love that guy!)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed May 14 12:54:01 2025
    How much ist that jet per tax payer, 2 Dollars?

    What's wrong with saving $2? You could use it to buy a trangender comic book for a child in Peru.

    And Qatar ist just very kind and does not have anything else in mind? Remember the Greek getting a wooden horse as a gift by the Trojans? Such
    a nice horse. And they got it for free. It was amazing. Maybe Mossad
    will also offer free pagers for all govermment officals.

    Now I get why Trump wanted to be president so bad! It was all just to get a $400 million dollar airplane! He really had me fooled!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 15 08:06:21 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yea, not even the news media uses Google (or any other websites) as sources. (Not that I've seen.)

    Yup. Google went the way of Wikipedia.

    But that's normal for the Wokies:
    1. Take an institution that has gained trust.
    2. Subvert it to produce the Woke propaganda.
    3. Watch the institution collapse as people lose trust in it.

    It wouldn't sound as believable as "According to a survey from
    Quinnipiac University.." Words like "Quinnipiac" and "university" carry more weight than "Google search" even for the sheepiest of sheeple.

    Most of the polls are "accurate" if you know how to read them.

    I long learned that most polls skew heavily left. Knowing that, you can get the **real** polling numbers (or close).


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu May 15 08:06:21 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    You use people as a source that say Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation... Fact-checkers are fake and bias

    Did you notice that we didn't have "fact checkers" until the Left had something to hide?

    I think by the end of this 4 years you'll be wearing a MAGA hat.

    Please no.

    I couldn't stand to hear him constantly hiss: "It burns us! It burns us!"


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu May 15 08:06:21 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Biden pushed the buttons... Biden, well Kamala, was instrumental in the war starting.

    Neither Biden nor the Ho did anything, simply because they are too stupid/senile to do so. They were simply the screens for the people actually pushing the buttons.

    We need to find out who those people were and bring them to justice.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu May 15 08:06:21 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Which ones? I'm not religious; I'm spiritual.

    I can't but help if the Catholic church would be more popular if they let you sip whiskey instead of wine.

    Certainly it would be more "spiritual". :)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu May 15 07:49:04 2025
    On 15 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...

    Did you notice that we didn't have "fact checkers" until the Left had something to hide?


    I saw a meme... or a fact that is fitting here ... Leftists need 0 facts to push a lie, but demand endless proof before admitting any truth.


    Please no.

    I couldn't stand to hear him constantly hiss: "It burns us! It burns
    us!"


    It is entertaining though!!!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu May 15 10:12:00 2025
    Some "reporter," and the company they work for, have the threat of slander and liable hanging over what they print. They have certain legal obligations. Whether or not someone holds them to them at all times might be a different question, but they do have them.

    That mattered when Dan Rather was active, but not so much anymore. ABC and CBS
    messed with Trump and he's a billionaire, so it didn't work out very good for them, but they continue to lie about all kinds of stuff nobody's coming after them and they ain't scared.

    Or maybe they don't come after them because they really are not lying?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu May 15 10:13:00 2025
    After he is done with it, it is going to his "Presidential Library," which Trump apparently expects will either be at, or will include, an airport. It is not becoming part of the fleet.

    If Trump were to negotiate a bribe, don't you think he would want his money in
    something more liquid than a $400 million dollar aircraft?

    Let's keep an eye on Trump to make sure he doesn't sell it for crack.

    Trump likes shiney things and, as you pointed out in another message, is already a billionaire so he doesn't need more money.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu May 15 11:00:00 2025
    Yea, not even the news media uses Google (or any other websites) as sources. (Not that I've seen.)

    Google isn't a source, it is what you find with it that might be a valid source.

    And you don't have to use Google if you don't like it. There is
    DuckDuckGo, Bing, StartPage, and likely others. When someone says "google
    it," you can use whatever search engine you want.

    This whole discussion seems pointless, though, as I suspect the real
    problem isn't that "google is bad" but rather "we don't want to find any
    real information that might prove our beliefs false, and we really don't
    like it when people we thought were MAGA research things and figure out our leader is mostly full of crap."


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu May 15 12:10:16 2025
    Most of the polls are "accurate" if you know how to read them.

    I long learned that most polls skew heavily left. Knowing that, you can get the **real** polling numbers (or close).

    I think I know what you mean. There's a million reasons to distrust polls unless (literally) if it's a voting topic on your BBS.

    The media never tells how the "poll" was conducted, they just tell who conducted it, and we're supposed to trust it because it's a long fancy word like "Quinnipiac."

    Seriously, if you look at a BBS voting topic on Renegade or something, it will show who voted and how they voted. To me that's a lot better than "Quinnipiac" or "RootMetrics."

    Renegade is hard-coded, so I'd even trust it to conduct our elections.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu May 15 12:13:18 2025
    That mattered when Dan Rather was active, but not so much anymore. ABC a CBS
    messed with Trump and he's a billionaire, so it didn't work out very goo them, but they continue to lie about all kinds of stuff nobody's coming them and they ain't scared.

    Or maybe they don't come after them because they really are not lying?

    About what though? They lie every day. Tonight while I'm waiting for Wheel of Fortune to come on I'll make a post about all the lies I hear from 6:30-7:00.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu May 15 12:30:19 2025
    Yea, not even the news media uses Google (or any other websites) as sour (Not that I've seen.)

    Google isn't a source, it is what you find with it that might be a valid source.

    The priority of the results make it a "source" for propaganda.

    And you don't have to use Google if you don't like it. There is DuckDuckGo, Bing, StartPage, and likely others. When someone says
    "google it," you can use whatever search engine you want.

    Right but Alex's point was "if you don't believe me then believe what's on the internet."

    This whole discussion seems pointless, though, as I suspect the real problem isn't that "google is bad" but rather "we don't want to find any real information that might prove our beliefs false, and we really don't like it when people we thought were MAGA research things and figure out our leader is mostly full of crap."

    I just hope those people figure out that the media is even more full of crap.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat May 17 07:45:44 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I saw a meme... or a fact that is fitting here ... Leftists need 0
    facts to push a lie, but demand endless proof before admitting any
    truth.

    That's because
    1. The Narrative is always true.
    2. If the Narrative is proven false, see point 1.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon May 19 12:56:45 2025
    On 17 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    I saw a meme... or a fact that is fitting here ... Leftists need 0 facts to push a lie, but demand endless proof before admitting any truth.


    It's funny AF.

    The left keep using the Marxist play book and people keep falling for their tactics.

    Trump will solve the Russia/Ukraine deal and there will be an other conflict some time somewhere where they can make even more money.

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